Lion of the Blogosphere

Higher IQ correlates with greater honesty

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This is an extremely interesting psychological (or economics) experiment.

The person being experimented on was asked to secretly roll a six-sided die and report the result. Soldiers who reported higher numbers were allowed to leave earlier from their job, and civilians who reported higher numbers got a higher reward (which was only 10 shekels for each pip, or about three US dollars).

The distribution of numbers reported for those in the top half of intelligence, based on either the kaba (the Israeli military evaluation score) or a 12-question intelligence test, closely resembled what would have been expected based on chance, except that it seems that the high intelligence responders sometimes under-reported high die rolls.

But when you look at the distribution of numbers for those in the lower half of intelligence, it’s pretty obvious that a substantial number of them are lying about what number they rolled in order to get a higher payout or an earlier release time from their military job. More so for the civilians than the soldiers.

None of the other factors they looked at (such as self-reported honesty) had a statistically significant impact on the distribution of die rolls. Although I wish that they had done this test on more people in order to be sure; there was a possible correlation between being from a city and having less honesty, and having higher honesty if from a rural area.

This experiment has huge implications for what kind of society you want to live in. It’s pretty clear that higher IQ leads to high-trust societies where people are honest with each other, while lower IQ leads to crime-ridden disorderly societies. Also, if hiring people, it’s way better to hire people from the top 50% of IQ if you want to have honest employees. IQ is way more important than merely being the ability to do well on tests.

The paper is also informative because it includes the 12 question Raven’s Progressive Matrices test that was used. This is an IQ test that is talked about a lot, but I’ve never actually seen what the test is like.

There were 12 questions, but only a stupid person could get more than 1 question wrong (because the last question on the test was slightly non-obvious, so if someone wasn’t motivated they might blow it off). Indeed, about a quarter of the test-sitters got all 12 questions correct, and another quarter got 11 questions correct. So my conclusion is that the test is good at measuring stupidity, but bad at measuring intelligence. If this is the test that was used to conclude that intelligence is rising (the so-called Flynn Effect), then the alleged rise means that stupid people became less stupid, not that smart people became smarter.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 28, 2019 at 9:03 PM

Posted in Biology, Economics

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  1. Aren’t lower IQ people poorer? Then the same reward would matter more to them & therefore be more likely to lie.

    Dave

    December 28, 2019 at 9:18 PM

  2. Speaking of higher IQ and honesty, check out the controversy that’s broken out after Bret Stephens, a NY Times columnist mildly hinted that the success of Ashkenazi Jews may be linked to HBD. Stephens is Jewish himself.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/28/bret-stephens-new-york-times-jewish-intelligence-eugenics

    Roli

    December 28, 2019 at 9:29 PM

    • Although I read Stephens for many years (mostly at WSJ) I found his last column at NYT really bad. Talking about “cleansing” being necessary post-Trump.

      Trump says stupid and sometimes crude things but I doubt he’s any cruder than many earlier presidents. The press used to be a lot more forgiving of presidents.

      Stephens left WSJ along with several other never-Trumpers, after Murdoch decided that WSJ would lose any chance of influencing the new regime if it kept up the never-Trump line.

      Frau Katze

      December 28, 2019 at 10:42 PM

    • For those commenters who say everyone is a secret HBD believer who just can’t admit it in public, check out the comments in response to an official NYT Opinion Section tweet on the article. It’s all “discredited racist pseudoscience” blah blah blah and calling Henry Harpending a “white supremacist.”

      Hermes

      December 28, 2019 at 10:49 PM

      • Everyone is going nuts over this article. The fur is flying in the comments on the Fox News site. But someone made this comment which seems to make sense:

        BoyceBlanchard472
        “Can’t allow any crack in the race/IQ debate because, well. . . Everything the left says and does hinges on “. . . But equality is real and racism is why it doesn’t exist” argument not actual realities about racially or ethnically specific groups that have certain skill sets above the general population. . .or below.”

        Rosenmops

        December 28, 2019 at 11:37 PM

      • Talk about a biased sample.

        Lowe

        December 28, 2019 at 11:43 PM

      • The comments have many skeptics, mostly the “nurture is the answer” crowd.

        But on the whole, there are far more in agreement than I expected. NYT must have changed its policy on vetting comments. This is the third article in the last few days that have comments that would not have made it in earlier days.

        It’s a positive change that I’m glad to see.

        Frau Katze

        December 29, 2019 at 12:02 AM

      • Frau wrote: “This is the third article in the last few days that have comments that would not have made it in earlier days.”

        Maybe the person who usually deletes the comments is on holiday.

        Rosenmops

        December 29, 2019 at 2:36 AM

      • Jews think different, because they were outsiders and their culture is “oriental” or “semitic”, sort of like Muslims, Hindus and Eastern Asiatics are orientals. Combined this with higher IQs and they were indeed different during their heyday.

        Spaniards among the Europeans also think very differently from their neighbors given their history of semites and semitic culture in their peninsula.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        December 29, 2019 at 9:53 AM

      • @Rosenmops There was a note at the end of the article that didn’t use to be there. It encourages letter writers, saying they’re committed to published a diversity of viewpoints.

        Maybe the same goes for the comments.

        Frau Katze

        December 29, 2019 at 10:43 AM

      • They’re really unimpressed at a Youtuber I follow, who rejected it outright, The comments are mostly attacking Jews. I left a comment that Stephens was correct. These so-called iconoclasts just seem to dislike Jews. I can’t imagine how it would feel to endure this.

        Frau Katze

        December 30, 2019 at 6:16 AM

      • Everyone isn’t a secret HBD believer. Though, I largely suspect that lack of belief isn’t due to a conscious rejection of the concept after deliberation.

        Instead, most liberals aren’t aware of the possibility of racial differences beyond that “silly Jimmy the Greek” gaff and a vague concept of Hitler’s ideology that they wouldn’t intellectually approach with a ten foot pole.

        Mike

        December 31, 2019 at 11:15 AM

    • Not sure why Stephens would come out and write that.

      I think it’s clear than many are thinking it but now is a bad time to say it. Just look at how Charles Murray is treated.

      He said his father or grandfather changed the family name. He used to be the editor of the Jerusalem Post. I first read him there. This was in my post 9/11 effort to try figure out what was going on. It rapidly became clear that many Muslims hate Jews, going back to Mohammed.

      Frau Katze

      December 28, 2019 at 11:04 PM

    • In today’s climate, in which people like Stephens are trying to convince White people that feeling superior (even by the NYT’s corrupt measurements) is wrong, his article is a PR loser for Jews as it makes them look politically privileged both in the media and in Jewish culture itself. Which is perception that has long been a central driver of antisemitism.

      I get what he was trying to achieve. Pretty much the opposite of the intended effect. Jewish PR seems to tend to ramp up in times of increased antisemitism. Though, to be honest, it’s difficult for me to figure out if he was earnestly trying to help Jews, if he was intentionally stoking antisemitism (chaos can breed new laws), or if he was intentionally poking the gentile Polar Bear, the Black Bear, or some other Bear for some other reason (laughs, spite, x,…). A lot of Bears may have felt poked in today’s climate, in spite of the merit of the article (I didn’t read the article, just the headline and last paragraph, because I’ve long thought Stephens to be a terrible human and I’ve prior read my share of Jewish achievement articles).

      Mike

      December 31, 2019 at 11:35 AM

  3. “This is an IQ test that is talked about a lot, but I’ve never actually seen what the test is like.”

    There was a full Ravens Advanced test online a while back. I took it and scored 160 (the max possible score I think). The site’s down, but I’ll send you some stuff about it if you want.

    MoreSigmasThanYou

    December 28, 2019 at 9:32 PM

  4. Every Seinfeld episode is basically about higher IQ correlating with greater honesty.

    My 2¢

    December 28, 2019 at 9:40 PM

    • High IQ Eastern Asiatic nations are nowhere to be found as high trust societies when comparing to Nordic and Western European Germanic nations.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      December 29, 2019 at 9:55 AM

      • The IQ different between eastern Asians and Europeans is only about 5 points and seems to be restricted to STEM areas.

        Frau Katze

        December 29, 2019 at 10:27 AM

      • “Trust” has a different meaning between east and west. Over there “high trust” means absolutely never screwing your clan or disrespecting the favor bank. Strangers are non-entities, whom you are free to cheat.

        “guilt vs. shame culture”, “uchi-soto”, “Guanxi”.

        Christian civilization is characteristically a “guilt” culture. You feel bad for having cheated, even though you didn’t get caught. In the east there is a minimal sense of guilt but being caught and publicly shamed will drive someone to suicide far more readily than in the west.

        bobbybobbob

        December 29, 2019 at 7:21 PM

      • When many Jews came to the USA from the USSR around 1990, most went along with letting Americans to perceive them as Russians. And so the myth of really smart Russians came to life. We tend to perceive Chinese as mostly one ethnicity, Han, even though there are many different kinds of Han. On paper they may be the same Han, but the reality is different because there is a pressure for non-Han to switch themselves to Han on paper. Mental abilities differ between these different kinds of Han. Then there is difference in mental ability between city and non-city dwellers due to filtering out those that are less smart (no jobs for them in cities). So, it is complicated and I have doubts in Chinese to be able to compete with the West. In early 1990s there was much talk about how Japan would beat the West economically. Advantage of 1/3 sigma in IQ alone is apparently not enough.

        My 2¢

        December 29, 2019 at 10:02 PM

      • Japan has half our population and no natural resources, most of the nation’s land area is unusable mountain, they can’t even farm.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 30, 2019 at 7:22 AM

      • China also does not have natural resources to support their ambition. Per capita, the value of all China’s natural resources combined is 30 times lower than Russia’s and 10 times lower than USA’s.

        My 2¢

        December 31, 2019 at 2:22 AM

    • WTF. Every seinfeld episode is about aspergery sociopaths backing themselves into a corner.

      bobbybobbob

      December 29, 2019 at 7:37 PM

      • That was my point.

        My 2c

        December 30, 2019 at 12:47 PM

  5. Maybe the lower half of the bell curve feels short changed. They didn’t ask to be born that way.

    Intelligence is even more important in today’s complex society than it was earlier.

    Jordan Peterson has noted that the US armed forces won’t take people below a certain IQ (I think it’s 80 or maybe 85). They cannot find anything for them to do.

    I would expect anyone below the army threshold to casually cheat if they thought they could get away with it. Compensation for losing the DNA dice roll. Although I doubt they would actually think it through in that way..

    Frau Katze

    December 28, 2019 at 10:52 PM

  6. The smarter you are, the harder it is to fool yourself.

    Jokah Macpherson

    December 28, 2019 at 10:58 PM

    • And yet smart people still manage to do it!

      Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

      December 29, 2019 at 5:22 PM

    • No way. That’s the classic high-low vs middle. Sub 90s and 120+ don’t get hoodwinked so much, but those 110s can be nudged to convince themselves of any insane thing.

      People one sigma down listen to finely honed biological instincts and don’t trust their reason, and they are usually more likely to be correct about a lot of things. It’s only the middle stdev that marches off cliffs like lemmings.

      bobbybobbob

      December 29, 2019 at 7:50 PM

  7. “It’s pretty clear that higher IQ leads to high-trust societies where people are honest with each other, while lower IQ leads to crime-ridden disorderly societies. ”

    Other things are going on besides just IQ though. The Protestant countries of Europe seem to have (or had, before mass immigration) the lowest corruption and the highest trust. The Protestant Reformation was a reformation against the corruption in the Catholic church. The Catholic countries are more corrupt. Most of the Eastern Orthodox countries fell to communism and ended up very corrupt.

    Muslim countries are even more corrupt. As are Africa and Asia. In fact corruption and not trusting people outside your tribe seems to be the natural human condition.

    Maybe it was just a fluke that Protestant countries became less corrupt. Seems to be related to breaking big families (tribes).

    But Hong Kong and Singapore (both British colonies) became prosperous. Maybe because the people there were smart enough to adopt some aspects of British culture that they could see were beneficial. Unfortunately the same thing didn’t happen in any other British colonies except the ones populated initially mostly by British people.

    Rosenmops

    December 28, 2019 at 11:13 PM

    • “In fact corruption and not trusting people outside your tribe seems to be the natural human condition.”

      In one of the numerous Iranian memoirs that I have read, one mentioned that this was exactly they were told: never trust anyone outside your family.

      Definitely the default human condition. HBD Chick used to write a lot about it. She’s stopped blogging but uses Twitter.

      Frau Katze

      December 29, 2019 at 12:18 AM

      • I’ll have to follow her on twitter. I miss HBD chick.

        Rosenmops

        December 29, 2019 at 12:45 PM

    • The contrast between Macao, China – long colonized by Portugal – and Hong Kong, with 100 years under the Brits could hardly be more striking.

      Hong Kong is a major financial centre. Their stock exchange was the largest in East Asia a few years back. I’m not sure if that still holds…just checked, it’s a competition between Hong Kong and Bombay, India (also under the Brits).

      Macao has casinos.

      Frau Katze

      December 29, 2019 at 1:53 AM

      • That might be true. But the Portuguese mixed with the Chinese and formed an unique culture. Essentially, infusing their genes and culture with that of the Chinese.

        Anglos never mixed with their colonial subjects in significant numbers and they always hated the people who didn’t resemble them. What an oddball group of people who refuse to evolve and are also dying as they bring globalization to the world!

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        December 29, 2019 at 10:11 AM

      • There is a big difference between the white British who colonized Hong Kong and the whites who are destroying the West with leftism today. To be blunt, white British colonists and explorers were not total faggots.

        The causal explanation for why so many more whites are faggots and assorted pondscum today, who deserve nothing they have inherited, is that most of the non-fags died in the World Wars or were killed by Communist regimes.

        Lowe

        December 29, 2019 at 6:28 PM

      • “The causal explanation for why so many more whites are faggots”

        Or that elites like and want faggots cause they are easier to control?

        One of the depressing aspects of visiting non-touristy Mexico is realizing how passive and subdued the majority of Mexicans are. Some claim that mass migration serves two purposes: 1) it lowers the price of labor; and 2) it satisfies US elites envy for a passive and subservient populace just as Mexico’s Spanish elites have enjoyed for 400 years. Mexico’s elites are really in your face about their superior status; a viewpoint that extends to white Americans.

        https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323734304578543663876242372

        “ In April, Andrea Benitez, the daughter of a well-connected politician, turned up at a trendy restaurant in Mexico City without a reservation and threw a fit when she was not given the table she wanted. So she called inspectors at Profeco, the government’s consumer protection agency—which happened to be run by her father. Inspectors promptly shut down the restaurant.”

        Curle

        December 29, 2019 at 8:38 PM

      • @OK, I’m not defending colonization per se. The Brits were looking for a coaling station, not an up and coming city state. It wasn’t planned. They took out a 99 year lease.

        Nor are Portuguese somehow inferior. They were the first Europeans in the business of exploring by sea. They were in Macao for several hundred years. I do prefer their architecture. HK is standard big-city fare.

        Frau Katze

        December 30, 2019 at 3:50 AM

      • @Lowe My theory is that WW 1 & 2 destroyed (all) Europeans’ self confidence and all started importing foreigners.

        It wasn’t just the UK. It seems to have become a zeitgeist and every non-Communist country started around the same time. None of them consulted their citizens.

        Frau Katze

        December 30, 2019 at 3:55 AM

    • > The Protestant Reformation was a reformation against the corruption in the Catholic church

      This is nonsense. The reformation was about money. Broke princes and monarchs looted land and property to get out of the debt holes they’d dug themselves into. The ideological/theological stuff is just window dressing.

      The demographic corruption claim is also nonsense. Catholic southern germany and austria is and was “higher trust” than protestant northern germany. Therefore we can conclude that within a linguistic group catholicism produces higher trust. /s

      bobbybobbob

      December 29, 2019 at 7:27 PM

      • The causes are complex, but you cannot rule out corruption in the Catholic Church. It was definitely one of the causes. (Another cause: invention of the printing press. Luther’s statements were printed and spread far and wide).

        Hey, I now attend an Eastern Orthodox church – they were even worse than Renaissance Catholics. The Protestant Reformation created the Catholic Counter-Reformation, and it greatly improved the situation.

        The Eastern Orthodox were too remote to be affected. They continued as per usual right up to the present. We saw how some of them acted when Yugoslavia broke up.

        However, I’m in a branch specific to North America and English-speaking (except in Quebec). All these centuries later the problem with mainline Protestants is that they’re basically just SJWs. About half our congregation are refugees from SJW Protestant churches.

        This puts a break on corruption, as these ex-Protestants are sincere and not driven by their ethnic group. But at the higher levels, I have no idea.

        Frau Katze

        December 30, 2019 at 8:51 AM

      • “ The Protestant Reformation was a reformation against the corruption in the Catholic church”

        What about the correspondence between the Edict of Alhambra (1492) expelling Spanish Jews, Henry VIII seeking his annulment from the Spanish princess 29 years later and the quick rise of England as a merchant power?

        The modern day discovery of Sephardic dna in American colonial mercantile and privateering families is not uncommon. Jefferson had Sephardic dna and on his mothers side the family, the Randolphs, were deeply involved in English overseas affairs. John Sevier, née Xavier by some accounts, was a Protestant whose family came from Netherlands which was a popular landing spot, along with England, for Jews fleeing Spain. Sevier was hero of the American Revolution and first Governor of TN.

        Curle

        December 30, 2019 at 9:17 AM

      • I just learnt that Martin Luther HATED the Jews.

        Apparently he originally expected the Jewish people to join his newly launched Protestant movement in opposition to the Catholic Church, and to convert to his purified Christianity; when they did not, he turned violently against them.

        Because of his writings, he became one of the founding thinkers of Hitler’s Third Reich.

        gda53

        December 30, 2019 at 3:26 PM

      • He didn’t know very much about Jews if he thought they would accept Christ just because he purified the corruption of Catholicism.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 30, 2019 at 3:37 PM

      • “Because of his writings, he became one of the founding thinkers of Hitler’s Third Reich.”

        Reactionaries don’t need founding thinkers as they are seeking to preserve things. No Red Terror, no Soviet exporting of Revolution, no 5 year warfare in Eastern European shatter zone and 5 million deaths (https://sydneyreviewofbooks.com/the-vanquished-why-the-first-world-war-failed-to-end/) and no Spanish Civil War then there would be no Nazi take over of Germany and likely no collapse of the Republic. It’s as simple as that.

        Curle

        December 30, 2019 at 7:16 PM

      • Delete “Spanish civil war” above and replace with “Spanish 2nd Republic”.

        Curle

        December 30, 2019 at 9:00 PM

      • I knew about Luther but I’m not well read on Jew-hating of that time.

        I’m trying to figure out where it’s coming from now.

        I somehow missed knowing who Nick Fuentes is until today.

        https://cms.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2019/12/letter-michelle-malkin-vanessa-jones

        Frau Katze

        December 30, 2019 at 9:06 PM

      • “I’m trying to figure out where it’s coming from now.”

        Backlash to the media, backlash to the prioritization of internationalist and multiculturalist interests and backlash to the defamation campaign being waged against traditionalists/nationalists by the controllers of culture. Maybe blacks are just picking up the vibe.

        Curle

        January 2, 2020 at 6:12 PM

      • Who is Nick Fuentes anyway? I often watch a pair of Youtubers twice a week, Matt Christiansen and a woman called “Blonde”.

        I didn’t notice it at first (because it didn’t come up) but Blonde doesn’t like Jews, even politically conservative ones. Apparently Fuentes encountered Ben Shapiro in person by chance a short time ago. Fuentes said some something insulting (I can’t remember what) and then started to follow him for a short distance. Shapiro was with his wife and young kids.

        Blonde and Matt couldn’t not agree on whether this was beyond acceptable or not. It was a livestream so a lot of of viewer comments were coming through. Most were quite anti-Semitic although I don’t think Matt is inclined that way himself.

        Why are they like this? Remember that I grew up in an area with few Jews and never thought about them much. Why would they object to Shapiro?

        Over and over I see this sentiment: “They [Jews] want to encourage mass immigration to America but you notice they don’t want for Israel.”

        But from what I’ve been able to gather is that the lefty Jews encouraging immigration to the US don’t care about Israel one way or the other. These anti-Semites don’t seem to notice that there are a wide range of opinion amongst Jews. As would be the case for any large group.

        For example, although blacks as a group tend to more crime, it would be ridiculous to say that all blacks are criminals.

        But this appears to be the thinking. The leftist Jews are so visible and vocal that Ben Shapiro and his family must be insulted in public, even though he isn’t a leftist.

        Frau Katze

        January 3, 2020 at 3:20 AM

  8. All of the white collar criminals I see on American Greed are high intelligence.

    Sponge Worthy

    December 29, 2019 at 6:30 AM

    • They may be high intelligence but they have some screws loose somewhere.

      Rosenmops

      December 29, 2019 at 12:50 PM

  9. Go and do a Wechsler.
    The last few problems in the matrices section are pretty hard. Or APM.

    BAP

    December 29, 2019 at 8:44 AM

  10. Our entire society is built around subsidizing the creation of the stupid and enhancing their idiocy. People are FANATICAL that is all about “nurture” (no nature, no innate identity, no soul) and yet the nurture they provide is sheer poison.

    The decent, competent, and intelligent get the bill and the blame.

    The fake and corrupt world of man commands that you do not believe in HBD or God.

    fakeemail

    December 29, 2019 at 12:21 PM

  11. A lot of very smart people honestly fool themselves or honestly adopt the lies of others they are scared of.

    Remember, Soviet Russia was a workers paradise. Cuba still is. Multiculturalism is an unquestionable good. Diversity is our strength. Men and women are the same. The future is internationalism. Everyone wants to be an American. Hate caused WW2. Hitler has plans to conquer the US. The Rosenbergs were framed. Trump is and has colluded with Russia. Soviet Russia is the greatest country ever. Non-soviet Russia is the worst country ever. AIDs is caused by hate. Cultural forces cause achievement gaps, work, school or otherwise. Cultural forces cause crime. Cultural forces cause you to leave your family and have 8 kids with baby mamas. All cultural forces are directed by the majority ethnic population as long as that majority ethnic population is white.

    Curle

    December 29, 2019 at 1:05 PM

  12. >>There were 12 questions, but only a stupid person could get more than 1 question wrong (because the last question on the test was slightly non-obvious

    I looked at the Ravens. I initially got the last question wrong (I often justify with my own convulated patterns that are consistent in my mind but are not the obvious pattern), but I sensed something was not right and before I left the page went back and selected the correct answer. Ho hum, I’m just a mediocrity.

    Daniel Heneghan

    December 29, 2019 at 4:13 PM

  13. Raven’s gets much harder. Much, much harder. And it probably measures something. But it doesn’t measure verbal or long-term memory, it probably doesn’t measure short-term memory, and if it measures visuospatial it’s measuring a fairly thin slice of it.

    Verbal is the most useful, as is evidenced by the Jews. If you have to choose, choose immense verbal ability at the expense of being able to draw a symmetrical swastika.

    REEEEEEEIT

    December 30, 2019 at 12:32 AM

    • Sounds almost like a confession.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      December 30, 2019 at 8:24 PM

      • Aspirational. I would trade my immense visuospatial for a really slick verbal.

        Or so I like to think.

        REEEEEEEIT

        December 31, 2019 at 9:26 PM

    • Having IQ of about 100 +/- 15 and being the member of the major ethnicity in your country are two things that will make your life long and happy. Any other combination comes with lots of risk.

      My 2¢

      January 1, 2020 at 1:26 AM

      • Does this mean that an IQ of about 120-125 puts you at a disadvantage? And if so, why would that be?

        Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

        January 1, 2020 at 10:13 AM

  14. I’m pretty sure the Raven’s Progressive Matrices test has more than 12 questions. They probably just used a subset.

    chris

    December 30, 2019 at 1:51 AM

  15. “If this is the test that was used to conclude that intelligence is rising (the so-called Flynn Effect), then the alleged rise means that stupid people became less stupid, not that smart people became smarter”.

    This was my feeling about the Flynn effect also, and Wikipedia seems to corroborate somewhat:
    “In another study, two large samples of Spanish children were assessed with a 30-year gap. Comparison of the IQ distributions indicated that the mean IQ scores on the test had increased by 9.7 points (the Flynn effect), the gains were concentrated in the lower half of the distribution and negligible in the top half, and the gains gradually decreased as the IQ of the individuals increased”.

    Billy Bob

    December 30, 2019 at 12:52 PM

    • Flynn Effect must be something similar to Global Warming.

      My 2c

      December 30, 2019 at 9:08 PM

  16. Low iq people come from poor backgrounds. In these places, lies and deceptions are the only one way to survive. This is part of what all of you call street smarts.
    I came from a very prole background. I am also 2 SD above average. With this, I was able to ascend to upper middle class (I am a computer enginneer major and law student) and have a comfortable life.
    But I still do prole shit, specially regarding lying. I’ve had numerous affairs through time, cheating my wife regularly. I also tell lies when I realize that probably I will not get caught and I will benefit greatly from them.
    The difference between me and prole low iqs is that I have high future time orientation and I’m able to weight pros and cons from my attitudes (I pride myself of being able to think statiscally and probabilistically). Low iq people just lie nonstop. I am so systematic with my lies that I have a document (protected by encription) where I carefully write and explain everything that I lied to who and how.

    Samuel

    December 31, 2019 at 5:18 PM

    • That seems weird. Keeping documentation of your lies, encrypted or not, seems like a cry to be caught.

      Mike Street Station

      January 1, 2020 at 9:33 AM

  17. “Higher IQ correlates with greater honesty”

    I can’t be bothered to read the original article or these comments. But I’ve observed that honesty often depends more on the topic and circumstances than anything else including IQ. Only a handful of people are honest or dishonest across the board. Honesty actually isn’t as popular or appreciated as one might suppose.

    destructure

    December 31, 2019 at 9:37 PM

  18. OT:

    MEH 0910

    January 2, 2020 at 4:39 PM

    • The Post is good for reporting crime in NYC, but is not good for other news.

      The Post previously posted a fake news article about how Ghislaine was in Los Angeles, with a fake photo, and they never apologized for it.

      So the latest story sounds like bullshit. The story that Ghislaine is in Brazil makes more sense.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 2, 2020 at 4:52 PM


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