Lion of the Blogosphere

I say, go back to China, go back to the Caribbean

Reported by the NY Times:

The candidate, Eric L. Adams, the Brooklyn borough president, spoke of how new arrivals to New York were “hijacking” apartments from longtime residents.

“Go back to Iowa,” Mr. Adams, a Democrat, said on Monday at the Rev. Al Sharpton’s National Action Network headquarters in Harlem, at his annual Martin Luther King’s Birthday event. “You go back to Ohio. New York City belongs to the people that was here and made New York City what it is.”

Imagine the uproar if a white candidate had said “go back to Puerto Rico” because Brooklyn is too crowded. I may point out that there are 176,528 Puerto Ricans in Brooklyn according to the 2010 census, which is surely a massively higher number compared to Iowans and Ohioans combined.

But the real force behind so many people being in Brooklyn is MASSIVE immigration. According to Baruch College, as of 2017 there were 959,026 foreign-born residents of Brooklyn. Out of approximately 2,583,000 total residents. And who even knows if that includes illegal aliens? He should really have said, go back to China, go back to the Caribbean, go back to Pakistan. U.S. citizens from other states have a Constitutional right to move to Brooklyn. Foreigners don’t. And illegal foreigners don’t even have a legal right to be there and they should be deported ASAP.

Imagine how much less expensive it would be to rent or buy in Brooklyn if the foreign-born, 37% of the population, were suddenly removed.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

January 22, 2020 at 2:03 PM

Posted in Immigration

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  1. Now that you mention it; a significant amount of New York City real estate is sitting empty and unavailable for use by locals due to the actions of rich Chinese people. In China the government can easily confiscate assets, especially RMB stored in bank accounts. If however, a rich Chinese person uses their money to secretly buy real estate in the West, the assets are fairly safe should that rich Chinese person need to skip town and move to the West.

    This is a problem in New York City, but it’s practically an epidemic in Toronto and Vancouver. Lots of locals are unhappy about it, and rightfully so.

    MoreSigmasThanYou

    January 22, 2020 at 2:24 PM

    • NYC has very few vacancies outside of Manhattan where these luxury apts are used for half of the year.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      January 22, 2020 at 3:45 PM

    • Yep, Chinese buy expensive houses in Vancouver and then board them up. Renting them out is too much trouble apparently.

      Thank goodness I don’t live in Vancouver any more.

      Frau Katze

      January 22, 2020 at 5:57 PM

      • We have the recently instituted “empty house tax” now in Vancouver and elsewhere in BC, and its forced many an absentee landlord to rent their properties. This cuts both ways, so a lot of previously ghost-town like streets especially on the west side of Vancouver are once again pleasantly full of life, but on the other hand I really don’t like the government forcing landlords to do anything with their properties they don’t want to do (especially when they’re not breaking any laws), even if the landlords in question are Chinese plutocrats. I have to add, our left wing provincial government, coupled with Vancouver’s hyper progressive city hall, make for a really nasty combination. We might be in the very early stages of BC’s Californification.

        Roli

        January 22, 2020 at 11:04 PM

      • Californication was a TV series starring David Duchovny.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 22, 2020 at 11:27 PM

      • And by coincidence a very well known tv series David Duchovny starred in, in the nineteen nineties was shot in Vancouver.

        Roli

        January 23, 2020 at 12:37 AM

      • We might be in the very early stages of BC’s Californification.

        It certainly looks that way from the other end of the country, where I’ve seen the very beginnings of a trickle of white flight out of expensive areas. We’ll see whether it increases to a torrent. We’ll see whether (as with California) they bring their politics with them.

        S.J., Esquire

        January 23, 2020 at 8:07 AM

      • @Roli So much quieter on Vancouver Island. Except for a larger number of earth tremors.

        Frau Katze

        January 23, 2020 at 11:08 AM

      • >Californication was a TV series starring David Duchovny.

        And before that, a popular Red Hot Chili Peppers song.

        anon

        January 23, 2020 at 6:05 PM

      • Californication was a whole Red Hot Chili Peppers album.

        Hermes

        January 23, 2020 at 11:23 PM

      • Frau, back in the 80s and 90s I remember people from Washington state calling Vancouver the Vegas of the North b/c of the downtown ‘gentleman’s’ clubs and supposed legal prostitution. Was that an exaggeration then in your opinion. What about now?

        Curle

        January 24, 2020 at 9:42 PM

    • I heard the same thing about Irvine, California. Not to be too skeptical, but does anyone have any hard proof of this? Like pictures of rows and rows of houses that are obviously empty? Because the only place I’ve ever heard this issue mentioned is blogs like this one and other similar sites. I understand it can be known for certain what percentage of real estate is owned by foreigners, but is there any evidence that they are actually letting them sit empty as opposed to using them?

      Hermes

      January 23, 2020 at 11:22 PM

  2. Most Chinese immigrants are in Queens, Brooklyn is NOTHING.

    GrassMudHorse

    January 22, 2020 at 2:35 PM

    • You obviously didn’t click on the link, 145,043 Chinese in Brooklyn is definitely not “NOTHING.”

      And in case you were wondering where they live, Sunset Park, a huge Chinese neighborhood. https://www.brickunderground.com/live/Sunset-Park-Chinatown

      Interestingly, the article points out that the default job for Chinese immigrants, working at a Chinese restaurant, is no longer a guaranteed job for every Chinese immigrant because the city is saturated with Chinese restaurants and unskilled Chinese workers, so unemployment among the Chinese is increasing.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 22, 2020 at 2:57 PM

      • And their children will be “gunning” for Harvard, only to be disappointed that the Bamboo Ceiling is the only structural entity coming from Eastern Asiatics in America.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 22, 2020 at 3:27 PM

      • New York City has TEN distinct Chinatowns. Also, according to Wiki the number of Chinese in Brooklyn (2014) was 205,753, not far behind Queens with 237,484. Numbers must be significantly higher now as more show up on the daily, and all such numbers are absurdly wrong anyway. How on earth do you count Chinese illegals who speak zero English? They aren’t exactly responding to surveys. Chinese are massively into immigration fraud, visa fraud, and just fraud of all kinds.

        Speaking of New York Chinese, I think Awkwafina’s new show, “Nora from Queens,” debuts today. From the clips I’ve seen it looks amazingly terrible, but I’m going to watch it anyway since they film it a lot where I live and I like to see my neighborhood on television.

        peterike

        January 22, 2020 at 3:31 PM

      • Lion:
        I did read it. Still it is a small number compared to Queens.

        Queens is about 25% Asian and Chinese make-up north of 400,000, if you count illegals as well, that is like 40% or so of the Asian population. That is over double Brooklyne, which is the biggest bureau.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Queens#2010

        GrassMudHorse

        January 22, 2020 at 4:44 PM

      • I’m sure there are illegal Chinese in Brooklyn as well.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 22, 2020 at 5:54 PM

      • “I’m sure there are illegal Chinese in Brooklyn as well.”

        A fuckload of them, brought over to the U.S. by smugglers called “snakeheads”.

        Again, why does the comments section give the impression that The Lion, and a few others actually know about NYC, while most commenters are talking out their asses? Could it be because some people just pull their pronouncements out of thin air?

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        January 23, 2020 at 12:23 AM

      • Chinese restaurants just don’t seem all that popular any more, at least not with SWPLs. Much hipper to eat Thai food. The market for crappy mall fast food Chinese is saturated, and losing to burritos. The suburban middle class prefer PF Changs to “authentic” Chinese food anyway, and the real high end Chinese food mostly only appeals to other Chinese and Tyler Cowen.

        Peter Akuleyev

        January 23, 2020 at 4:31 AM

      • @More Sigmas Is it a requirement that you must live in NYC to comment on this blog? Or just this topic?

        Again, why does the comments section give the impression that The Lion, and a few others actually know about NYC, while most commenters are talking out their asses? Could it be because some people just pull their pronouncements out of thin air?

        Frau Katze

        January 23, 2020 at 11:31 AM

      • “@More Sigmas Is it a requirement that you must live in NYC to comment on this blog? Or just this topic?”

        Maybe it should be a requirement to know what you’re talking about instead of making pronouncements of ‘fact’ which are totally ignorant and provably wrong. I don’t live in Vancouver, but you may notice that when declare a fact about Vancouver, what I say is actually true. Isn’t it?

        Not that you’ve made ignorant pronouncements, but others have, and I was pointing that out.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        January 24, 2020 at 1:04 PM

    • There are three Chinatowns in NYC. The oldest one predates Red China. It’s located in Manhattan. The second one was formed by economic migrants who lived in costal South China near Hong Kong and fled from Red China on boats before China became moderately prosperous. That Chinatown is located in Brooklyn. The third and newest Chinatown is located in Queens. Unlike the first two, Chinatown number three got its population from Northern China. They came to the U.S. on airplanes.

      There are big differences in class and attitude between the different Chinatown. There are also linguistic differences with the old people in the Brooklyn Chinatown speaking Cantonese, while the Queens Chinatown uses Mandarin.

      The Chinese Restaurants in the rest of the U.S. are staffed out of the Chinatown in Brooklyn. If a Chinese restaurant worker in Dubuque Iowa steps out in front of a bus and gets killed, his replacement is sent from Brooklyn.

      The Chinese Restaurants located in the Queens Chinatown are unaffiliated with each other and unaffiliated with the ones that originate in Brooklyn. That’s why the Chinese restaurants in Iowa and Ohio have menus that look the same and offer the exact same selection, but two hotpot restaurants in Queens have totally different menus.

      Knowledge dropped.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      January 22, 2020 at 3:25 PM

      • To add to what More Sigma…most Chinese in the Midwest, who own Chinese restaurants are from Fujian, they speak Minnan Hua and some are from Zhejiang, specifically from Wenzhou. Wenzhou people are very clannish, they only hire their own. In China they are referred to as “the Jews of China”. They are in from Southern China, north of Guangdong (Canton)…but South of Shanghai.

        GrassMudHorse

        January 22, 2020 at 4:51 PM

      • Interesting, thanks

        driveallnight

        January 22, 2020 at 5:55 PM

  3. Anyone still think breaking up this country into separate republics is a bad idea?

    Can anyone convince me it is a bad idea?

    njguy73

    January 22, 2020 at 2:46 PM

    • I like the idea that West Virginia had of accepting counties that secede from the other Virginia.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      January 22, 2020 at 3:26 PM

      • West Virginia was a secession from Virginia.

        The main of Virginia should secede from Northern VA. Better yet, move major federal agencies to the mid-west or declining cities. I vote to put EPA in Detroit. HHS in East St. Louis. Dept. of Education in OK City. Dept of Justice in Birmingham. Etc.

        Curle

        January 23, 2020 at 5:41 AM

    • It’s a bad idea because it’s not happening. At least not until the Federal Government becomes non-functional of its own accord. They wouldn’t even agree to a partition of Iraq.

      Wency

      January 22, 2020 at 3:43 PM

    • If people don’t have the political will to end immigration and deport illegals then breaking up the country won’t solve the problem. Illegals and immigrants will just pour into the remaining parts until it’s the same thing all over again.

      destructure

      January 22, 2020 at 4:03 PM

    • I’d love a republic of guidos. Not joking here.

      Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

      January 22, 2020 at 10:13 PM

      • You once had one but turned it into an Empire, imported the disloyal dregs of the earth and lost it because of them. Sound familiar?

        Curle

        January 23, 2020 at 5:33 AM

      • “You once had one but turned it into an Empire….”

        Curle, everyone knows about the Roman Empire. All civilizations fall apart eventually. What I meant was that my new idealized “guido Republic” (for lack of a better term I call it this because that’s what everyone else on LOTB will call it) would be (for me, at least) a better place to live than the current USA. However, I’m not at all certain that most Italian-Americans would agree with me. From what I know, the majority of them don’t prefer to live in mostly Italian areas, and the ones that still live there may be there out of convenience or necessity rather than genuine desire. Italy herself is not doing so well at reproducing its population and keeping out foreigners. I have a distant relative who is mayor of a small town in Sicily – and he seems to think its his town’s obligations to take in everyone from Africa who wants to move there.

        Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

        January 23, 2020 at 3:36 PM

      • “I’d love a republic of guidos.”

        It exists. It’s called New Jersey.

        Grim Keeper

        January 25, 2020 at 9:07 AM

  4. An urban parasite striver is so so so prole.

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    January 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM

  5. You’ve just summed up our entire national immigration policy. But what would Boomers do if 30% of the demand for their used homes disappeared? So nothing will change as long as Boomers are the dominant voting block.

    Portlander

    January 22, 2020 at 3:46 PM

    • OK Slacker time for your own mortgage.

      cesqy

      January 22, 2020 at 5:35 PM

    • Boomers are expiring at an accelerating rate, so it would just mean lower home prices for buyers who are still alive to live in them.

      Alice

      January 25, 2020 at 9:44 AM

  6. If it weren’t for immigration, anyone who owns property in Brooklyn, or in the rest of the city, would be metaphorically sharing the same experience as the hapless dude in the movie Deliverance.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    January 22, 2020 at 3:51 PM

    • The Hudson Valley is the New Brooklyn. Regular readers on this blog like you need to discover some of the river towns to understand that Brooklyn no longer needs to be colonized by White people.

      I’m mean c’mon, you have hipster cafes in the vicinity of Bear Mountain State Park.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      January 22, 2020 at 5:18 PM

      • The small towns in and around the Catskills are filling up with white hipsters REAL fast. The real estate markets up there are exploding.
        The town of Hudson is like Williamsburg 15 years ago. Rhinebeck is too wealthy for most hipsters, but Athens is also filling up, and any other small town you can think of is getting colonized quick.
        Interesting to watch from afar.
        I’ve lived in NYC since 88′, but originally from Rochester. It will be interesting to see if white colonization starts flowing into the older industrial cities upstate like Rochester, Syracuse and Buffalo.
        Lots of cheap real estate up there.

        Another Dave

        January 22, 2020 at 9:17 PM

      • The colonization of the Hudson Valley by White Hipsters is a tell tale sign that HBD is indeed real and sound. NAMs and Asians need not to call out White racism, when the air is fresh and clean, and ripe for pickling like the crops grown in the region. They aren’t setting the trends, because they lack the will power and passion to become pioneers.

        Rhinebeck is just another Scarsdale, but further north.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 22, 2020 at 10:07 PM

      • “It will be interesting to see if white colonization starts flowing into the older industrial cities upstate like Rochester, Syracuse and Buffalo”

        Ithaca Commons by the Finger Lakes (the downtown area of Ithaca is very hipsterish with its restaurants, craft stores and local wine/cider/beer purveyors), separate from college town (the downtown area in the Cornell Campus for its students who reside up in the hills).

        Troy in the Capital Region, as Lion has mentioned was a decrepit industrial town that has seen a complete revitalization, where the downtown area has transformed into another Williamsburgh.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 22, 2020 at 10:19 PM

      • I don’t recognize Troy from the last time I was there in the 1980s.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 22, 2020 at 11:25 PM

      • Montréal with its European vibe should be deemed as the last stop on the uptown line for any Manhattanite traveling north. A new status marker for those who travel on the “subway”.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 22, 2020 at 10:38 PM

      • It will be interesting to see if white colonization starts flowing into the older industrial cities upstate like Rochester, Syracuse and Buffalo.

        They’re too busy colonizing the Southeast.

        Stealth

        January 23, 2020 at 7:52 AM

      • those cities are far away from New York City and the weather sucks (unless you love snow).

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 23, 2020 at 8:59 AM

      • Peekskill could be nice. Pick up all the trash on the ground. What’s with New England and litter?

        James Mexico

        January 23, 2020 at 9:29 AM

      • Peekskill is basically an upcoming Williamsburg in proximity to Bear Mountain. Proles and non-whites who visit Bear Mountain usually stay within the confines of the park for amenities. There is the Bear Mountain Inn that serves prole burgers and junk food that NAMs and Eastern Asiatic tourists would gulp down, while SWPL types who like nature will head over Peekskill across the river to eat in one of those Hipster cafes or breweries, after a steep climb into the hills and down.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 23, 2020 at 10:16 AM

      • “those cities are far away from New York City and the weather sucks (unless you love snow)”

        Anyplace north of Albany and west of Albany are regions susceptible to gloomy overcast throughout the year, which is more of an issue than snow in the winter. NYC doesn’t have great weather and as you head further north, overcast weather becomes more of an issue. A sunny day in NYC could be a clouds with the sun trying to peek through in the Hudson Valley. It usually would be a completely grey sky in Ithaca or Buffalo, if this was the case.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 24, 2020 at 9:35 PM

      • Little known fact, upstate New York is the cloudiest area of America after western Washington.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 24, 2020 at 11:38 PM

    • It’s certainly true that a large influx of wealthy migrants looking for real estate means a big payday for current owners. This must account for the lack of protests over even a really large influx.

      Another thing about the Chinese: they’re not in the news much.

      This is in sharp contrast to the descendants of Muslim peasants living in Europe (they were originally just “guest workers” but somehow they never went back home.)

      No shooting up synagogues or vandalization of churches.

      I was surprised to learn that Toronto has slightly more Chinese than Vancouver. They just stay out of the news. That doesn’t mean no illegal activity, but it’s kept as quiet as possible, with occasional hits resulting in bodies found in obscure places. (The most intelligent way to commit crimes).

      For contrast, take the Lebanese immigrants in Sydney, Australia. I followed them on my Aussie friend’s blog. It seems a large number of poor Shiites were dumped in Australia. They’re very badly behaved. Scores are settled in broad daylight in residential areas. They seem to enjoy daytime shootouts.

      There were major riots in Sydney in 2005.

      Frau Katze

      January 24, 2020 at 10:46 PM

  7. Manhattan has cultural amenities (or institutions) that are under-utilized, especially by NAMs (yet the gov’t pushes for more funding so they can waste more money in useless education, yet very few blacks n hispanics show very little interest in the machinations of WASP power and influence that renders them disenfranchised).

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    January 22, 2020 at 5:14 PM

  8. Hott chick deadlifts 625 pounds. That’s more than probably 90% of men could ever manage. It’s also cool that she has a degree in statistics.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    January 22, 2020 at 6:17 PM

    • Women’s upper body strength potential is much less than men’s. But women’s lower body strength potential is pretty close. It doesn’t surprise me at all that a woman can deadlift or squat more than most men could.

      destructure

      January 23, 2020 at 9:45 AM

    • Once again you’ve described a 5 as a “hott chick.”

      Hermes

      January 23, 2020 at 11:43 AM

  9. The US used to let some minorities immigrate into it but that what it was, a minority, even Italians and such are two small to make a huge impact but once you let Chinese and Indians in they just take over because there are so many of them and there is not much you can do.

    Hashed

    January 22, 2020 at 6:52 PM

    • Chinatowns have low value with both SWPL and tourist prole types. At least with Little Italy, you have tourists who patronize Italian restaurants. Jews aren’t known for their cuisine, but in the Lower East Side, bagels, appetizing and donuts are popular among non-Jews. No one in their right mind, eats in a Chinatown store.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      January 22, 2020 at 8:34 PM

      • That’s incorrect, Chinatown has always attracted tourists. Do you even live here?

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 22, 2020 at 9:43 PM

      • No one in their right mind finds Chinatown congenial to White people’s taste. The occasional prole who ventures into the neighborhood for “authentic” Chinese food is over-matched by a long line of patrons at Russ n Daughters (a Jewish appetizing store that sells bagels and spreads, so yes I do live here).

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 22, 2020 at 10:01 PM

      • Appetizing store? Given your poor grammar, incoherence and strange phrasing, I’ve long wondered if English wasn’t your second language.

        destructure

        January 23, 2020 at 9:51 AM

      • Yeah, that looks like not a typo but a mistake of someone for whom English isn’t their native language. Not that there’s anything wrong with moving here from another country.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 23, 2020 at 10:01 AM

      • Russ and Daughters – Purveyors of the highest quality smoked fish, caviar, baked goods, and specialty foods, Russ & Daughters is New York City’s premier appetizing shop.

        http://shop.russanddaughters.com/locations

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 23, 2020 at 10:26 AM

      • Appetizing? You mean appetizers right?

        Harmony Pax

        January 23, 2020 at 10:56 AM

      • >>That’s incorrect, Chinatown has always attracted tourists. Do you even live here?

        Chinatown has been popular with middle and upper-middle class folk for over 100 years. One of Irving Berlin’s formative jobs was that of a singing waiter in a Chinatown restaurant.

        Daniel Heneghan

        January 23, 2020 at 1:30 PM

      • Something I have noticed in Sydney and I am suspicious might be similiar also in Canada is that the original china town which was very proleish Chinese is expanding to become something more similiar to Hong Kong/Seoul/Tokyo shopping districts with stylish eateries and fashion shops. I guess the new Chinese immigrants are richer and more sophisticated and share the same lifestyle of other rich Asian countries. They still don’t mix much with locals, there are so many of them in Australia and they create their own ghettos. Even when in school with other Australians they seem to have their own groups.

        Hashed

        January 23, 2020 at 3:51 PM

    • This is a funny post because self styled native New Yorkers with the neck tattoo and gold chains tell me to go back to Ohio but I’m from China. I got told more to go back to China in the 80s and blamed for tiananmen and stuff. Now it’s Ohio. It must mean migration patterns have really changed.

      Harmony Pax

      January 23, 2020 at 1:19 AM

  10. if you want to feel like you are in an Asian country, go to Flushing (the Chinatown of Queens). All the people are Chinese. All the signs are in Chinese. All the goods in the stores are Chinese-oriented. It’s extremely crowded. And very dirty.

    You may feel like a foreigner in your own country, but you won’t feel scared that you will be a crime victim, the way you would in a black neighborhood.

    Amused Observer

    January 22, 2020 at 8:13 PM

    • There are vast amounts of crime happening in Chinatowns. It’s just not street crime.

      Peterike

      January 22, 2020 at 10:32 PM

      • True, but since it doesn’t affect me, I don’t care. Black neighborhoods are different.

        Amused Observer

        January 23, 2020 at 11:26 AM

  11. “ New York City belongs to the people that was here and made New York City what it is.”

    Trust funders and the Dutch?

    Curle

    January 22, 2020 at 10:09 PM

  12. This is how people should argue against immigration: your rents are increasing.

    as

    January 22, 2020 at 10:22 PM

    • Exactly! Immigration drives down wages while driving up housing costs. Even recent immigrants should be able to understand that’s not in their interest. After all, no one is harmed more by the next immigrant than the last.

      destructure

      January 23, 2020 at 9:55 AM

    • I wonder what Jimmy McMillan’s position on immigration is?

      Hermes

      January 23, 2020 at 11:26 PM

  13. Adams blasted people from Iowa and Ohio who move to the city. According to the latest statistics NYC get maybe 300 people a year moving from Iowa but sends an almost equal number of people to that state. As for Ohio, about 1,000 more people per year move from NYC to the Buckeye State than vice-versa.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    January 22, 2020 at 10:40 PM

    • You’re allowed to tell Iowans to go back, because they’re white. Or assumed to be.

      People are generally cowardly faggots, who will only speak ill of those they are told they can. This Adams is just one more.

      Lowe

      January 23, 2020 at 8:25 PM

    • I used to live in Ohio for a while, and I moved to the South. Big mistake. When you’re born and raised in the liberal northeastern megalopolis, but are a conservatively minded person and don’t feel like you fit in there, you’re sold by fellow conservatives on this idea of the South as a place of God-fearin’, gun-totin’ conservatives. And you have this unquestioned, unconscious assumption that that means basically being a continuation of traditional Western Civilization. Which implicitly means white people. Nothing could be further from the truth. What no one tells you, since in our society race is this massive elephant in the living room that no one can be frank about, is that the south is filled with blacks. I’ve never before been in an area where such a high proportion of the population is black. You can’t turn around without bumping into blacks everywhere you go. Do you enjoy, say, flirting with the girl behind the counter at Banana Republic? When I lived in Ohio, or the northeastern megalopolis where I grew up for that matter, those girls were white. Well, in the South, you better like black girls, because they’re all black. Black service people everywhere you go, blacks promoted through affirmative action at every level of your company, nothing but blacks as far as the eye can see. Even on so-called alt right or dissident right blogs, no one ever mentions this fact: the south is a sea of blacks! Why does no one ever talk about this?

      If you are a traditionalist conservative white person, forget the South. The Midwest is where you want to be. I plan on moving back to the Midwest at some point just so I can be around more white people. It’s nothing personal against blacks. Many of them in the South are much nicer than the ones I grew up around in the north, and I haven’t been the victim of any crimes or racial harassment or anything. I just feel like an alien.

      Hermes

      January 23, 2020 at 11:43 PM

      • Yeah, bro. Lots of black people in the South. Atlanta is like 50-55% blacks. But there is a lot of informal segregation, so you don’t really have to live near them.

        But you will work with them, see them around, at the county clerk, the DMV, etc. Black girls aren’t so bad though. Honestly most of them have a way better outlook than white girls usually do.

        Lowe

        January 24, 2020 at 10:38 AM

      • I actually agree about black women. I used to think black girls were gross, but one of the things that’s happened as I’ve gotten older is that I can see how a (young, thin, well-put-together) black girl can be every bit as sexually attractive as an analogous white girl. I’ve even dated black women a little bit, but it never really went anywhere because we just don’t have enough in common.

        The affirmative action thing is pretty frustrating even if I personally don’t want the positions these blacks are in, just because you see people getting shoehorned into positions they wouldn’t be considered qualified for if they weren’t black, then they make a big deal about how great they are (for example, posting all over social media about how they’re “killin’ it” due to their “hustle” or whatever) when in reality of white largesse and accommodation, and an entire infrastructure and civilization they never could have created on their own.

        Hermes

        January 24, 2020 at 6:09 PM

  14. Jesus, what is it with Brooklyn’s abiding popularity? If the global profile of this borough keeps increasing anywhere at the rate it has been for the last ten years, it’s going to start threatening the preeminence of Manhattan itself. I know in years past people laughed at the possibility of Jersey (with its population growth) outranking NYC in status, but I think in Brooklyn’s case, that might be a distinct possibility, not least because Brooklyn has rid itself of much of its parolier white demographic. I was also trying to think of what might be Los Angeles’s equivalent of Brooklyn– I couldn’t think of anything. Funnily enough, it’s easier to think of London’s equivalent to Brooklyn–ie. Shoreditch, Dalston, Docklands along with other areas in the East End of London. NYC is so unique in the US, you have to look outside the country to find anything even remotely equivalent.

    Roli

    January 22, 2020 at 10:41 PM

    • People who couldn’t afford to live in Manhattan, took up areas of Brooklyn in order to commute to work, which evolved into a place where hipster types would just self contain. Essentially, Manhattan was no longer a focal point, because Brooklyn offer its unique amenities and local culture which typifies Hipsterdom. Furthermore, Manhattan is seen as a boring, touristy trap now, with its abundance of chain stores and uninteresting shops (because the latter have become corporate in themselves by serving the global marketplace). Brooklyn has caught this Manhattan bug, and will meet the same fate down the road.

      I see the Hudson Valley, north of NYC as the New Brooklyn by the trees and mountains, until its process is complete, which will take another 20 years or more, if we are still around (counting that Lyme disease will not become an epidemic).

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      January 23, 2020 at 12:38 AM

      • No, Brooklyn is still second choice for the vast majority.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 23, 2020 at 7:15 AM

      • If Whites can clear the forest of Crown Heights, Flatbush and further south in proleland, there is no vacancy for gentrifiers to fill up, unless more high rises are built in SWPL Brooklyn. Then the city will get worse with commuting congestion.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 23, 2020 at 8:28 AM

      • “I see the Hudson Valley, north of NYC as the New Brooklyn”

        Are you by chance a realtor in the Hudson Valley?

        Roli

        January 23, 2020 at 10:39 AM

      • No, I’m not a realtor in the Hudson Valley. But I’m trying to get my hands into farming or brewery in the region.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 23, 2020 at 11:40 PM

    • That’s because white hipsters and minorities don’t share neighborhoods on the west coast like they do in Brooklyn. Minorities live in minority areas. My parents friends live in Fremont SF and Rosemead LA. White people dont even know where those are.

      Harmony Pax

      January 23, 2020 at 1:23 AM

    • The parts of Brooklyn that appeal to SWPLs – Cobble Hill, Park Slope, Carroll Gardens – are more like Kensington or Camden Town than they are like Shoreditch. Beautiful brick rowhouses, tree lined streets, nice parks, hip coffee houses and high end boutiques, etc. Brooklyn is a much nicer place to live in, physically, than Manhattan.

      Peter Akuleyev

      January 23, 2020 at 4:40 AM

      • These sections are appealing to SWPLs, because they are closer to Manhattan. It’s nicer if you think SWPL Brooklyn which has more NAMs in sight than Manhattan, is a good thing.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 23, 2020 at 8:31 AM

      • Brooklyn has two traditionally desirable neighborhoods: Brooklyn Heights and Park Slope.
        Maybe Williamsburg can now join that list.
        The rest of Brooklyn, the only reason people live there is because they can’t afford Manhattan. Or because they are Ultra Orthodox Jews.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 23, 2020 at 9:01 AM

      • Correct, a few reasons such as pre-war architecture and their close proximity to Manhattan are what make these two neighborhoods desirable. Williamsburg would be included in the list given that certified Hipstervilles are slightly more affordable than Bobovilles. But prole and Eastern Asiatic neighborhoods will forever stay intact, unless the former is close to Manhattan.

        You see this play out in the Hudson Valley known as the “New Brooklyn by the Woods”. Towns with a lot of pre-war structures and proximity to the Metro North attract Hipsters and they are ripe for gentrification, while towns in Orange and Rockland counties do not, but they do attract undesirables who show very little creativity and an eye for beauty like the Chassids, NAMs and now Eastern Asiatics, due to the lower costs in real estate.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 23, 2020 at 9:51 AM

      • The best Brooklyn neighborhoods like Brooklyn Heights and Park Slope are basically extensions of Manhattan. The Clark St. subway stop in Brooklyn Heights is one stop from downtown Manhattan. Williamsburg is also only a stop or two from Manhattan. Beyond those neighborhoods though, it starts taking forever to get into Manhattan. You might as well be in Long Island or Jersey.

        Tom

        January 23, 2020 at 2:44 PM

  15. OT/Note, long story in Seattle Times about relatively uncommon shooting downtown. Though the shooting was witnessed by many no description of any kind of the perp. Definitely no racial description. Oddly, they closed the comments section noting that they sometimes do that with sensitive subjects.

    What’s so sensitive about a shooting where the perp isn’t described in the story?

    Curle

    January 23, 2020 at 5:22 AM

  16. Eric Adams back in 1989. First thing I thought of when I heard the story. Punchline in last 5 seconds, but do watch the whole thing.

    370H55V

    January 23, 2020 at 11:08 AM

    • That’s a great clip. I love how Spike Lee unintentionally shows the true nature of blacks: perpetual adolescents always on a knife’s edge, ready to explode over any slights, real or imagined. Of course, if Spike were actually true to life, those blacks would have beaten the daylights out of the Larry Bird guy.

      peterike

      January 23, 2020 at 4:53 PM

      • “those blacks would have beaten the daylights out of the Larry Bird guy.”

        Not those blacks. Plenty of blacks are scared of prole-ish white guys who act cold and speak slow. A friend in DC told me back in the 80s that blacks on buses heading south would quiet down when the bus crossed the Potomac into VA. I used the cold stare and slow speaking once on a black dude who was bothering me. He left. Of course, he was alone like me.

        Curle

        January 23, 2020 at 10:22 PM

      • @Curle

        While the John Savage character might have been quite fit and up for a fair fight with his tormentor (although in such circumstances we all know it would never have been one-on-one), and while the character might have been of prole Brooklyn origins, I think he was portrayed as a yuppie brownstoner/urban pioneer. Gentrification of Bed-Stuy was just getting under way in the mid-80s and continues to this day.

        370H55V

        January 24, 2020 at 10:07 AM

      • Curle,

        I don’t know that speaking slowly has anything to do with it. I think black people are scared of scary white people. Or to put it more generally, less scary people are afraid of more scary people regardless of color.

        One TNS member is old and white and lives in a mostly Hispanic neighborhood. Some of his neighbors had a pitbull that they were using to intimidate people. He shot the dog, then barbecued it in his front yard and ate some of the meat in front of them. He never had any problems with the neighbors after that.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        January 24, 2020 at 12:06 PM

  17. Speaking of China, any thoughts about the quarantine of Wuhan (15 million people under lockdown)? My thoughts: we’re lucky that Chernobyl happened in the Soviet Union and this happened in China, a democratic society would not be able to effectively deal with crises of this scale.

    PrinzEugen

    January 23, 2020 at 11:21 AM

    • For sure. Remember when some people discussed having a quarantine for Ebola in the U.S.???? I got to hear not only that a quarantine was a violation of civil rights, but also that having a quarantine would only spread disease faster.

      A long time ago when our population was more emotionally mature and less protected from nature, more people actually understood the value of quarantine, but I don’t think we ever were or will be up to the level of a fully mobilized China. Of course before the central planners were taking SARS seriously, they were having whistleblower doctors jailed. Then one day, they got it, and made containment priority 1.

      Still I’m glad that the densely populated country where people think it’s their duty to eat anything that walks crawls creeps swims slithers or flies is also the country where the government has no barriers to containing strange new diseases.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      January 23, 2020 at 4:27 PM

      • The attitude of some people over quarantine with ebola does indeed show that a lot of people are idiots.

        Ebola is extremely lethal too.

        Frau Katze

        January 23, 2020 at 9:51 PM

    • We are definitely not lucky Chernobyl happened in the Soviet Union. It only happened because of Soviet incompetence.

      And if China can deal with crises better than the US, it’s only because they are racially homogeneous with a fairly high IQ.

      What you really mean when you say a democratic society can’t deal w/ problems is that a society with lots of useless colored people can’t deal w/ problems.

      Lowe

      January 23, 2020 at 8:35 PM

      • They’re not homogeneous. That’s why they’re having so many problems with the Uighurs. Diversity is never a strength I scarcely need to add.

        Frau Katze

        January 23, 2020 at 9:54 PM

      • China is not having a problem with Uighurs. They have that issue well under control. Under the Qing rulers China occupied a frontier region formerly known as East Turkestan that was fairly desolate and of no interest to outsiders other than a few old Silk Road oasis towns. Under Mao there was a push to colonize the region with Han Chinese to provide a buffer against the Soviets, who had related Turkic populations living on their side of the border. The new Chinese immigrants quickly outcompeted the locals, and China has sent more and more immigrants over the past decades. In a desperate bid to survive, the massively outnumbered Uighurs started to fight back, and a small number resorted to terrorism. Of course, on the scale of China, Uighur separatists pose about as much of a threat to China as Navajo separatists would to the US. But the fact that Uighurs are Muslims gave China a good excuse to crack down.

        Peter Akuleyev

        January 24, 2020 at 10:50 AM

      • @Peter China’s current solution for the Uighurs (breaking up families and sending people to “re-education” camps is bad even by my standards and I strongly dislike Islam.). It will be creating tremendous resentment, requiring an iron hand in perpetuity.

        Frau Katze

        January 24, 2020 at 2:06 PM

  18. lotb: Wants Colored people to leave America.

    Also lotb: Goes on dates with Hispanic and Asian women.

    This is why most Americans don’t take alt-right wn types seriously. You guys date the very women you want to remove from America.

    SC

    January 24, 2020 at 8:08 AM

    • I’m not racist.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 24, 2020 at 9:16 AM

      • You can be racist or non-racist. Both are whatever.

        But if you decide to be non-racist, don’t move into a 100% white zip code. That’s the main issue I have with liberals.

        If you decide to be racist, don’t date hispanic and asian women. That’s the main issue I have with the alt-right.

        SC

        January 24, 2020 at 2:29 PM

      • I’m not racist, I’m a realist about HBD, and I see massive immigration as a problem.

        What country on this planet allows open borders unlimited immigration? NONE. Not a single country.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 24, 2020 at 2:34 PM

      • I misjudged SC’s comment because of previous comments accusing “alt-right types” of having a double standard on interracial dating. That’s a straw man because most “alt-right types” not only don’t but object to those who do.

        However, what she said later was different. She was actually pointing out and comparing the hypocrisy of liberal “non-racists” who live in 100% white neighborhoods with the hypocrisy of “alt-right types” marrying out. I actually agree with her on that. But it should be pointed out that while the first is common the second is not.

        destructure

        January 25, 2020 at 12:01 PM

    • This is a stupid criticism. I did not realize having sexual relations with somebody was a stamp-of-approval for gov’t policies that allowed their parents/grandparents to immigrate.

      Heinlein pointed out at least once that hypocrisy is the weakest possible criticism of another person’s argument, and frankly it’s not even clear this is hypocritical.

      Am I supposed to be hamstrung in whom I can date, because of an intellectual argument? That sounds autistic. Besides, who is to say a white man is not doing God’s work to preserve his genes, by putting the white in some colored girl? The Conquistadors peopled an entire continent that way.

      Lowe

      January 24, 2020 at 10:59 AM

      • Lion says that molesting children should be illegal, but he also said that the movie “Sleeper” was witty. If it wasn’t for a child molester named Woody Allen, the movie never would have been written. Take that pedophobe!

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        January 24, 2020 at 12:59 PM

      • Then you should be perfectly fine with it if some white women choose to marry black and hispanic men.

        SC

        January 24, 2020 at 2:26 PM

      • SC — Why do you care about this issue? What’s your dog in this fight?

        destructure

        January 24, 2020 at 3:01 PM

      • @SC

        I am personally okay with white women marrying black and Hispanic men. Especially Hispanic men, because that’s barely out-marriage, in most cases.

        But even if I weren’t okay with it, that would still be reasonable and easy to defend. Because women are not the same as men. For a woman marriage is submission, and for a man it is conquest. So out-marriage is not the same for men and women.

        Your viewpoint is really autistic, to be frank. Beep boop, I must read universal rules into life choices, beep boop. Men and women are equivalent actors, beep boop.

        Lowe

        January 24, 2020 at 3:07 PM

      • Checkmate bigot!

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        January 24, 2020 at 3:16 PM

    • black and mestiza/mulatta women aren’t dates for wn types. They are a tiny minority, if anything.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      January 24, 2020 at 11:37 AM

    • Like the Indians and Hawaiians?

      Here’s the last Hawaiian princess from the House of Kawānanakoa. Father: William Jeremiah Ellerbrock; Mother: Lydia Liliuokalani Kawānanakoa.

      Curle

      January 24, 2020 at 4:59 PM

    • This is a weird comment anyway because to my knowledge Lion has never discussed his dating life on the blog.

      Hermes

      January 24, 2020 at 6:00 PM

  19. O/t – There’s this empty mansion by the Finger Lakes for sale. $50K.

    Can Yakov buy it and renovate it?

    https://www.newyorkupstate.com/homes/2019/12/for-sale-in-upstate-ny-fixer-upper-civil-war-mansion-for-50000-with-10-bedrooms.html

    I doubt it.

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    January 24, 2020 at 11:38 AM


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