Lion of the Blogosphere

Friday morning

In New York City:

Broadway is closed
Museums are closed
Movie theaters closed (I think)
Restaurants limited to half their normal capacity
Schools STILL OPEN.

What the hell is De Blasio thinking? Closed the damned schools. Although I am still not sure whether or not children spread this virus, it’s better to be safe than sorry. You don’t want kids to catch it school and then infect their parents and grandparents.

Well what De Blasio is thinking is that schools aren’t just for education, they are for giving food to children and babysitting them so their parents can go to work. Yet somehow, no kids starve to death during spring break or summer break. So close the schools now.

De Blasio is as bad as Trump.

Talking about Trump, the best way for him to help right now would be to resign and let Pence be President.

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Justin Trudea’s wife has tested positive.

President of Brazil has tested positive. AND he dined with Trump last weekend.

Wow!

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UPDATE: The President of Brazil did NOT test positive. Was a false rumor.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

March 13, 2020 at 8:45 AM

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  1. In Paris all restaurants are full ! I am in a crowded one now and there was a 20 minutes line

    Bruno

    March 13, 2020 at 9:24 AM

    • Oh great. There goes the French Open.

      telling it like it is

      March 13, 2020 at 10:41 AM

  2. Martial law declared this weekend? Obviously the sooner, the better. But it would be such an abrupt shift in narrative, how long would it take until people realized it ain’t a joke?

    Or are people starting to catch on that everything’s gonna change for a good while when sports leagues etc. started shutting down?

    trey

    March 13, 2020 at 9:42 AM

  3. If he closes the schools, the kids will run wild in the streets. They can steal whatever foods they need if they are nutritionally challenged, and the losses will be written off as a charity deduction.

    It’s all good.

    ice hole

    March 13, 2020 at 10:09 AM

    • Somehow we get through vacations and summers just fine.

      JayMan

      March 13, 2020 at 1:48 PM

  4. DeBlasio will not cancel public schools in New York City because they have become orphanages for the minority underclass. Who will take care of these children? Certainly not their parents.

    B.T.D.T.

    March 13, 2020 at 10:19 AM

    • Most non NYCers probably don’t realize all public schools here have free breakfast and lunch. The city also pays for free meals at private schools where a certain threshold is below the poverty line, so yeshivas and some catholic schools. Some schools also.provide dental and healthcare. With after school, the kids are being cared for and fed 7am to 6pm.

      The NYC system also has an extensive network of schools for autistic, retarded, mentally ill and otherwise demented kids. These programs run year round and are basically day treatment facilities. I’m not sure those kids even could be kept at home long term without endangering themselves, their family members, or society at large.

      toomanymice

      March 13, 2020 at 12:08 PM

      • From reading teacher subs on Reddit, I see that some districts are cancelling classes but continuing the services esp food.

        Most the teachers are ecstatic to get away from the little germ-bombs.

        Mrs Stitch

        March 13, 2020 at 3:20 PM

      • Give me a break, food these days is so cheap that even homeless people can still live without too much problem. Some loafs of bread some eggs, lentils, rice and even chicken which is dirt cheap can sustain a person for a whole month. Nobody is going to die from lack of food but a lot of women will have to stay at home and take care of their children while men will be doing the essential jobs that actually keep us alive. I hope this Corona will prove how useless women are (in average) to the economy and how valuable they are as housewives but of course it will not happen.

        Hashed

        March 13, 2020 at 4:44 PM

      • hashed, I was not advocating (with the exception of demented kid schools), just pointing out the thick nanny state involving ghetto NYCers. Good luck telling them to live on lentils. Most have probably never tasted one.

        75% of americans are fat or obese. They could lose a quarter+ of their weight and probably be healthier, long term.

        stitch the UFT is pushing for school closures for the reasons you state. There is also the uncomfortable racial issue of the charges being predominantly NAM and the staff caucasian.

        toomanymice

        March 13, 2020 at 6:46 PM

      • I agree with Hashed. Food is ridiculously inexpensive. These school food programs aren’t because poor families can’t afford it but because poor parents are too lazy and negligent to feed their own children.

        destructure

        March 13, 2020 at 7:20 PM

  5. We kept our kids home. If you can you definitely should keep them home.

    simplednd

    March 13, 2020 at 10:36 AM

  6. Lion I have been critical of trump as well, but the reality is he stepped up with Chinese flight ban (he was called racist then) and now Europe.

    I agree he should keep quiet if he isn’t going to say constructive things, and I would have a ban on flights from UK as well.

    He will be blamed for the assumed testing crisis, but it’s not his fault that there was overregulation and CDC seems like a long term problem.

    Paul Rise

    March 13, 2020 at 10:37 AM

    • Who’s the one who can change regulation with an executive order? TRUMP CAN.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      March 13, 2020 at 10:46 AM

    • The flight bans are just for show. If you don’t do serious testing and screening, the way Taiwan does, then you have no idea if the ban is preventing contagion from entering the country. Exhibit A is the fact that we haven’t stopped flights from the UK, a country that is explicitly allowing the virus to run rampant to build „herd immunity.“. Trump‘s constant harping on his pointless travel bans are embarrassing and actually more evidence that he doesn’t get it.

      Peter Akuleyev

      March 13, 2020 at 6:08 PM

  7. What the hell is De Blasio thinking? Closed the damned schools

    Yes!

    Corey Johnson for Mayor!

    I’d take Anthony Weiner over De Bozio!

    Deke DaSilva

    March 13, 2020 at 10:51 AM

    • “I’d take Anthony Weiner over De Bozio!”

      So would I.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      March 13, 2020 at 2:18 PM

  8. “President of Brazil has tested positive. AND he dined with Trump last weekend.”

    Trump might have it. He’s really been going out to events and shaking hands with abandon.

    If he gets diagnosed, he might either die or have the 25th Amendment foisted on him. If John Kelly, James Mattis, and Rex Tillerson were still in the cabinet, I have little doubt they would’ve organized that.

    Sid

    March 13, 2020 at 10:55 AM

    • Bolsonaro people are denying it.

      Mrs Stitch

      March 13, 2020 at 3:22 PM

  9. If Trump implemented draconian measures like those in China or ordered aggressive contact tracing, testing and quarantining, he would be called a Dictator.

    One thing he should do now, however, that could avoid a healthcare system collapse would be to require everyone to wear a mask. Nothing fancy, just a surgical mask can slow down the spread. We can’t stop people from talking face to face, but a mask can help control infection both ways. He should rev up the production of surgical masks in this country and hand them out for free, and the costs would be far cheaper than the alternatives.

    telling it like it is

    March 13, 2020 at 11:12 AM

    • There aren’t enough masks now and there won’t be enough masks in time, no matter how he “rev up the production” Trump attempts. Mask stockpiling is something you do before the crisis, not during.

      Mike Street Station

      March 14, 2020 at 10:01 AM

      • The officials including doctors are not helping by saying that masks do not stop us from catching the virus. Nobody is saying that it’s 100% protective, but a mask (x millions) can “flatten the curve”.

        telling it like it is

        March 14, 2020 at 11:14 AM

      • “The officials including doctors are not helping by saying that masks do not stop us from catching the virus. Nobody is saying that it’s 100% protective, but a mask (x millions) can “flatten the curve”.”

        The purpose of the masks are to prevent the wearer from spreading contagion, not to avoid catching something.

        Mike Street Station

        March 14, 2020 at 4:24 PM

      • “The purpose of the masks are to prevent the wearer from spreading contagion, not to avoid catching something.”

        Someone sick sneezes at you and your CHANCES of being infected are the same whether you’re wearing a mask or not? Show me the evidence.

        telling it like it is

        March 14, 2020 at 5:43 PM

      • Besides, this thing can spread even if the carrier shows no symptoms. For the sake of others, please wear a mask when you must speak to them at a close distance.

        telling it like it is

        March 14, 2020 at 5:53 PM

  10. What is happening right now is a run on banks by various indebted businesses, next week a run on banks by regular people might start; and what is going to happen to all the newly unemployed ? It seems like ~50% of infected show no symptoms at all and so far nobody famous died or even got really sick. The jury is still out on that front, but in any case containment in that scenario is pretty unlikely. Just saw that Korea did drive-through testing of ~100K people and has an app for that. Wow, Europe and Americas are third-world compared to that level of organization.

    Goodstuff

    March 13, 2020 at 11:30 AM

  11. Lion – you are right about many things but usually wrong when it pertains to Trump directly.

    ralph

    March 13, 2020 at 11:42 AM

  12. Does closing schools slow the spread of coronavirus? Past outbreaks provide clues
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/does-closing-schools-slow-spread-novel-coronavirus

    In summary, if you want to slow this thing down then close the schools ASAP!

    destructure

    March 13, 2020 at 11:47 AM

  13. This is from Vox Day, who take coronavirus very seriously.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/03/this-is-not-fear-porn.html

    First, if you think this is fear porn, then you aren’t old enough to remember either AIDS or the Cold War. Second, this can’t be “the same as SARS” or other recent epidemics, because corona-chan is observably at least one, and possibly two, orders of magnitude more infectious.

    The SARS epidemic in 2003 reported 8098 cases with 774 deaths, and was eventually brought under control by July, 2003, in a matter of 8 months. Although 26 countries reported cases, the vast majority of cases were concentrated in five countries or regions: China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Toronto, Canada. SARS was eventually contained by means of syndromic surveillance, prompt isolation of patients, strict enforcement of quarantine of all contacts, and in some areas community-level quarantine. By interrupting all human-to-human transmission, SARS was effectively eradicated.

    By contrast, there are presently 134,317 reported cases with 4,968 deaths in 116 countries in less than three months of the present pandemic. One of these things is not like the others. To claim that it is accomplishes nothing but to parade one’s statistical innumeracy.

    The refusal to take action in the face of potential adversity is not indicative of courage or intelligence. To the contrary, it is paralysis based on denial, fear, and binary thinking.

    Neither pestilence nor war are influenced by your opinion of the reality of their existence.

    map

    March 13, 2020 at 11:50 AM

    • Vox Day is creating their own fear porn by cherry picking their comparison. SARS was chosen because the numbers were so small as to make this sound apocalyptic.

      Why didn’t they compare it to swine flu? Because all the swine flu numbers are at least one, and possibly two orders of magnitude worse. 61 million US infections. 12,500 US deaths. Up to 575,000 world wide deaths. 80% of the deaths were people under age 65, so it killed the young and healthy where as COVID-19 kills the old and infirm. Swine flu numbers are scary, yet everyone thinks of it as a nothing burger. This would need to get orders of magnitude worse to equal the swine flu nothing burger.

      https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html

      This entire site has turned into a fetal position panic fest, comments included.

      Apex

      March 13, 2020 at 4:15 PM

      • Apex, are you innumerate? Apparently so, since the numbers you provide show that swine flu is a weak flu variant. 12,500 / 61m = 0.02%. WuFlu kills 1% with extremely high tech intensive care and 5% when the hospital is overrun.

        So that’s between 50 and 250 times more deadly than swine flu.

      • You should read more carefully as you are apparently illiterate. I did not say orders of magnitude more DEADLY on a percentage basis of the number infected. What world do you live in where you can make that assumption. Swine flu apparently was so pervasive that large numbers of people got it and 12,500 (80% healthy) died in the US. While I have heard rumors that this is more contagious the numbers don’t seem to bear that out and the number of deaths is still remarkably low compared to other more serious outbreaks. In addition it appears some very high percent of the deaths are people who are in very poor health anyway. I have yet to hear the numbers, and I know some healthy will die but I haven’t heard of any reports of a healthy 30 year old who died. It would be very interesting to see the numbers on any healthy people who have died.

        If the number of deaths from this virus increase 2 orders of magnitude then it will be the same ball park numbers as swine flu, and some huge percentage will be very unhealthy people. While that is definitely still a tragedy it is no where’s near as concerning as a virus like swine flu that kills mostly healthy younger people.

        If you are under 60 and don’t have underlying health conditions, you might be better off just getting this virus and promoting herd immunity. That is definitely not true with swine flu.

        Apex

        March 14, 2020 at 11:45 AM

      • > I have yet to hear the numbers

        We will never get numbers that mean anything. The tests are a total joke, everywhere: in vietnam they started requiring three different results that agree.

        In a lot of places the incentives are strong to suddenly start throwing anybody with flu-like symptoms or respiratory problems into the COVID bucket. Gotta get them disaster relief bucks.

        Absolutely the only metric that will ever clearly indicate anything is to look at the total population death rate vice seasonally adjusted norms. Which I predict in four months will show approximately nothing happened, even in China.

        bobbybobbob

        March 14, 2020 at 1:02 PM

    • Vox Day’s home in northern Italy is the center of the global pandemic.

      Of course things look bad to him.

      Dan

      March 13, 2020 at 4:20 PM

      • Italy is such an extreme outlier now that it almost seems like another form of the virus. No where in Asia, including China, had similar numbers at this point in the outbreak.
        That being said, the numbers from Italy, at least until several days ago, were no deaths under the age of 30, only 2 deaths between 30 and 50, and only until 70 do you see a real problem, and after 80 we are looking at 20%.
        In other words, for reasonably healthy people under the age of 50, even in Italy, coronavirus is about as much of a threat as the flu, maybe slightly less. For those under 20 it doesn’t seem to be a threat at all.
        Unlike other virus’, this one really is hitting the elderly hard.
        At this point, I think it makes sense for everyone under 50 to get exposed to this so that we develop herd immunity. Some medical expert in the U.K. is suggesting exactly that.
        Living in NYC, I assume I have already been exposed, since the virus has been floating around NYC for at least a month.
        Some young wags are referring to this as the Boomer Remover.

        DaveNYC

        March 13, 2020 at 5:59 PM

  14. Catholic schools are closed for next week.

    toomanymice

    March 13, 2020 at 12:09 PM

  15. Closing schools would be a major inconvenience for parents. Keep in mind that children are basically immune to this virus.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    March 13, 2020 at 12:17 PM

    • Do you know what else would be a major inconvenience for parents? Dying. The article I linked above compares school closings. St. Louis closed the schools about a day in advance of the epidemic spiking, for 143 days. Pittsburgh closed 7 days after the peak and only for 53 days. St Louis only had 1/3 of the deaths that Pittsburgh had. If we want to slow this thing down then closing the schools is the way to go. Of course, you’d have to ban grandparents from watching them or else it would end up like Italy. That’s where Italy went wrong. I’ll bet something similar happened in Iran and China as well. All three countries rely heavily on grandparents for childcare.

      destructure

      March 13, 2020 at 3:39 PM

      • PS: That St Louis and Pittsburgh comparison is for Spanish flu not Covid19.

        destructure

        March 13, 2020 at 7:22 PM

    • No they aren’t. They just tend to get mild cases. But they carry the infection and do stupid gross things like cough and sneeze in your face.

      Mrs Stitch

      March 13, 2020 at 9:58 PM

  16. You tweeted the news about the Canadian Prime Minister’s wife contracting the coronavirus. If it had been Melania Trump, you would be berating Trump for his inability to protect even his own family.

    Roli

    March 13, 2020 at 1:07 PM

  17. The Bolsonaro thing is fake news.

    IHTG

    March 13, 2020 at 1:10 PM

  18. Tom Hanks and his wife could be a turning point; unlike a South American politician, pretty much everybody knows who he is. If he and/or the Mrs. get deathly ill people will know this is serious. If they spend few days with mild flu symptoms then get better, the public fury at the insane overreaction they’ve seen will be much harder to contain than the virus ever was.

    TWBC

    March 13, 2020 at 1:57 PM

    • For healthy people like Tom Hanks and his wife, Corona Extra virums symptoms are exceedingly mild. I had it back in late January and can confirm it is the gayest flu I ever had.

      NWS4EVR

      March 13, 2020 at 4:11 PM

  19. “President of Brazil has tested positive. AND he dined with Trump last weekend.”

    That’s why I only make Predictit bets that don’t depend on anyone living long enough to do something.

    MoreSigmasThanYou

    March 13, 2020 at 2:18 PM

  20. Brazil President is fake news.

    map

    March 13, 2020 at 2:45 PM

  21. Biden is opposed to European travel ban ….

    Bruno

    March 13, 2020 at 3:55 PM

  22. MEH 0910

    March 13, 2020 at 4:06 PM

  23. Trump just talked up the market 2000 points.

    Dan Hess

    March 13, 2020 at 4:15 PM

    • Central banks have started QE. Soon the markets will have new highs.

      We live in a new economy where central banks control the markets with money supply. There will be no more recessions because central banks can support stock markets and bond yields with QE. Company balance sheets will be full of debt, but it is not a problem because they can always get more money from the markets.

      tmmm

      March 13, 2020 at 4:48 PM

      • During the Depression, central banks refused to expand the money supply because they though there was insufficient demand for money because the economy had contracted. Bad idea, as Milton Friedman recognized in his (and Anna Schwartz’s Monetary History of the United States). What they are doing now is right.

        antohny

        March 13, 2020 at 10:43 PM

      • Why would this not cause hyperinflation eventually?

        hdo

        March 14, 2020 at 3:56 AM

      • QE won’t cause hyperinflation because the money created by QE won’t increase wages. If wages were increased, it would cause inflation. QE will increase stock market valuation and housing prices, but not wages as we can see during last 10 years. Wages are kept in control by increasing also labour supply by immigration and outsourcing to cheaper countries. Also making it more difficult to change jobs will restrict rise of wages.

        tmmm

        March 14, 2020 at 11:40 AM

      • > cause hyperinflation eventually?

        Well, we’re sure gonna find out soon. They’re talking about suspending payroll taxes ($trillion of tax revenue), $trillion of capital gains taxes just went poof, fed is already blowing up the balance sheet with QE5, and fedgov’s clearly gonna try to bail out everybody under the sun as we slide into a bad recession. They’re already bailing out the frackers. If the MMT people are right, it’ll all just work out. If they’re wrong, problematic inflation is going to become very obvious later this year and assets like gold and blue chip equities will soar (in nominal terms).

        bobbybobbob

        March 14, 2020 at 5:48 PM

      • Hyperinflation has never occurred in a country where there were no public debts payable only in a foreign currency.

        Take Weimar Germany or Zimbabwe as examples. They each had large debts payable only in a foreign currency, which they did not control, needless to say. So they could not print money to reduce the real rate of interest in those debts.

        Political pressure arose to try to print down any other obligations they could (govt employee wages, pensions, etc), so they could use much of their tax revenue to make the foreign debt payments. But this becomes a vicious cycle, because the debt payments rise due to a rising exchange rate, as the domestic currency is weakening. Hyperinflation has never happened outside of these circumstances.

        In the here and now, if political pressure is put on the central bank to buy many treasurys off the open market, and an extremely aggressive fiscal policy is adopted, we could see high inflation. But NOT hyperinflation. And even high inflation is unlikely right now, because these days printing more money doesn’t mean the velocity of the money supply goes up. Money velocity is what causes inflation, not money supply.

        Most money velocity actually results from business transactions, large and small, rather than from private consumption based on wages. So money velocity and inflation are more a function of the private credit market than they are of wages. This is why it was possible for wages to stagnate in the 1970s and for inflation to be high regardless.

        Although that statement comes with the caveats that we measured inflation in a more liberal way in the 70s, and there was also an energy crisis helping drive higher prices on goods. So the situation was different over all. However, it’s still important to note that wages are not the critical link here. It’s the private credit market.

        Lowe

        March 14, 2020 at 9:04 PM

      • Great comment, Lowe.

        redarmyvodka

        March 16, 2020 at 5:06 AM

  24. Trump was acting very well and it will play well for him at the end. He stopped traveling from China pretty early although people called him racist and also from Europe which is not racist because they are white. He declared an emergency state pretty early in the spread stage comparing to other countries. He was always advocating for strong borders and moving manufacturing back and signed now an order to do so with medicine. He objected to spending money on all types of green new deals, imagine the economy going into corona situation with billion spend on some future “problem”. If his people will be able to hammer those points even you might ignore some gaffs in his speeches and realise that he is an excellent president.

    Hashed

    March 13, 2020 at 4:38 PM

  25. OT:
    Shattered illusions, a tragic tale.

    So the other evening I was perusing motherless.com, the zenith of all porn sights, when I came across a video of unchallenged magnificence. It was a voyeur video, one of my favorite types, in which according to the caption the uploader used a hidden camera to record his brother’s girlfriend peeing (which I adore) and then taking a shower. She looked about 20, probably about a 7, and had a delightfully unshaved body with all the good parts in perfect proportion.
    What was best, however, is that she had a sweet and innocent aura about her, totally lacking in the hardened skanky nature of most women in porn. It was such a charming video that my usually abysmal faith in human nature was completely restored.
    And then I decided to watch another shower voyeur video. This girl seemed okay, but I barely noticed because IT WAS THE SAME GOD DAMNED BATHROOM!!! In other words, the videos were staged, and the sweet innocent girl in the first one was yet another porn ho.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    March 13, 2020 at 5:12 PM

    • But a better actress than most of them.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      March 13, 2020 at 5:16 PM

    • hidden camera to record his brother’s girlfriend peeing (which I adore)

      Get a grip, and not that kind of grip

      Piscataway

      March 14, 2020 at 12:21 PM

  26. Kids aren’t affected by it. They don’t die from it.

    as

    March 13, 2020 at 5:14 PM

  27. MEH 0910

    March 13, 2020 at 5:57 PM

  28. Closing schools is not smart. A) creates an added burden on our healthcare workers who have to find daycare or not show up to work B) will lead to massive juvenile delinquency and teen pregnancies. Or it would have back in the 1990s, maybe smart phones will keep the kids busy these days.

    Peter Akuleyev

    March 13, 2020 at 6:13 PM

    • Half of all nurses have children in school. However in NYC anyone who can afford it puts their kids in private school. So closing public schools here will probably result in kids running amok and a loss of low skilled labor.

      My kids are home (catholic school and cuny). They’re playing video games, reading books. One daughter went to the mall, to buy a book. She said it was crowded.

      My gorgeous 22 year old daughter is having virtual dates only with her 31 year old boyfriend who is maybe a ‘3,’ not rich, but is one of the nicest guys I have ever met. So much for all your stupid theories about attractive women wanting rich alphas.

      toomanymice

      March 14, 2020 at 4:10 PM

  29. We are lucky none of the illegal border jumpers of have come across with a strain of incurable TB. That would be a real crisis.

    Someone

    March 13, 2020 at 6:56 PM

  30. Schools are closed in the Philly suburb where I live for the next month. Panic buying here is insane. Luckily I stocked up on necessities a month ago. I almost felt embarrassed while doing it, but I thought “just in case.” Now you can’t find a roll of toilet paper anywhere.

    Gotta hand it to you, Lion. You called this one. I really did not think it would get this bad.

    Hopefully we’ll slow this down to the point that hospitals don’t get overwhelmed. My main concern now is my 76-year-old mother-in-law, who isn’t in great health.

    The silver lining in all of this is the intense psychological pain that COVID-19 will inflict on extroverts, who deserve to suffer.

    Horace Pinker

    March 13, 2020 at 7:02 PM

    • I had no trouble fining toilet paper today. It was both in my local supermarket and one of the Asian-run 99 cent stores near me. The supermarket was busier than usual, but not flooded with people. And no one was acting panicky.

      Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

      March 13, 2020 at 10:05 PM

  31. Damn guidos. Can’t keep ’em quiet even in a crisis!

    (I hope this link went through!)

    Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

    March 13, 2020 at 7:37 PM

  32. At this moment in time there are just over 200 confirmed cases of Coronavirus in Canada, and very likely many too mild to detect. That makes for a death rate of under 0.5%. At 5x worse than the flu, its worthy of sober consideration but maybe not worth losing our shit over. Fyi, Germany, South Korea and Switzerland’s death rates are even lower and these are countries renowned for the quantitative analysis. Switzerland actually has a death rate of zero. Sorry to scupper your bonhomie Lion.

    Roli

    March 13, 2020 at 8:05 PM

    • New York State currently has 475 confirmed cases, the most of any state, but relatively few hospitalizations and no deaths.

      Peter

      ironrailsironweights

      March 14, 2020 at 12:09 AM

    • Thing is, it’s still early days for this virus. An ICU doc in Seattle is reporting their hospital has almost used up all their vents. Seattle is still seeing new very sick patients and the best prediction is that over there the wave won’t crest for 1-2 weeks.

      I hope you’re right but it’s too early to call how dangerous this thing will be yet in the US. Unknown unknowns. Whatever we can reasonably do to make it spread slower right now is best, I think. But maybe take that with a grain of salt because I’m kind of lazy and don’t particularly enjoy intubating people…

      hdo

      March 14, 2020 at 4:05 AM

      • And when will the population of docs and nurses be so decimated that there aren’t enough of them? I just learned a good friend’s son has it. He’s an EMT. Good thing the kid’s in his twenties. His dad, almost 60 and a financier.

        Curle

        March 14, 2020 at 7:45 PM

    • “At 5x worse than the flu, its worthy of sober consideration but maybe not worth losing our shit over.”

      Agreed. We should take whatever precautions are necessary to “flatten the curve” and ensure this doesn’t overwhelm the healthcare system. But people trying to whip the public into a frenzy over this should be ashamed of themselves.

      destructure

      March 14, 2020 at 7:59 AM

  33. Trump gets to claim credit when this thing goes away, with < 1000 US deaths.

    Dan

    March 13, 2020 at 8:10 PM

    • Why under a thousand? It seems we need to have some realistic standards. I would say that Trump gets credit if the deaths remain below the H1N1 fatality number of 12,469. Jayman says we’re looking at 1.5 million deaths so I suppose any number below that shows a win for Trump for him.

      Mike Street Station

      March 14, 2020 at 10:08 AM

      • “… It seems we need to have some realistic standards …”

        Compare to other countries like Canada or Germany. It should become clear which countries have done best. Or maybe it will turn out that everybody does about the same, that the things we are arguing about don’t actually matter that much.

        JAMES SHEARER

        March 14, 2020 at 11:39 AM

    • They’ll probably wind up claiming 4,000 or so deaths. I’d bet maybe a thousand or so will legitimately in fact be due to the novel virus. You know *anyone* hospitalized with respiratory symptoms is going on the list.

      bobbybobbob

      March 14, 2020 at 10:42 AM

  34. Only kids of riff n raff background would stomach such atrocious n unappetizing fare served in our public schools.

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    March 14, 2020 at 12:12 AM

  35. Having Ceo on board is the best answer to the virus any country have .

    Trump is really ahead of the pack.

    UK and French strategy is very risky because you don’t build herd immunity with HIV for example not Ebola. It works with the flu. But with chinese flu , we don’t know …

    Bruno

    March 14, 2020 at 3:45 AM

  36. MEH 0910

    March 14, 2020 at 7:56 PM

  37. UPDATE: The President of Brazil did NOT test positive. Was a false rumor.

    MEH 0910

    March 18, 2020 at 9:34 AM


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