Covid-19 November update
Back in August I wrote:
We keep getting worse and worse at social distancing, we are sending kids back to school, a new wave of cases before we get a vaccine seems kind of inevitable. I predict between 400,000 and 800,000 U.S. deaths from Covid-19 before the pandemic is ended with a vaccine.
My prediction continues to be on target. The last update from the Covid Tracking Project is that we have record number hospitalized and record cases in one day, and if the trend continues this will keep getting worse. We already have 233,000+ deaths.
We are heading into Thanksgiving, and unless the government shuts down all the roads to prevent people from going places on Thanksgiving (and we lack the political will to do that), Thanksgiving will cause a major spike at a time when the virus is already out of control.
Trump insisted we are “rounding the corner” and that the media will stop reporting on Covid-19 as soon as the election is over. Trump is being proved horrible wrong. We are not rounding a corner, we are in slow-motion heading into a huge collision.
It’s also obvious that eventually Covid-19 will be so bad we will say “oh shit, this is bad, we have to change our behavior” and state governments will start closing stuff, but we lack the wisdom to close stuff BEFORE it gets like that, thus we condemn a few hundred thousand to unnecessary deaths because we are too stupid to do the right thing at the right time.
Lion of the Blogosphere 
Guido council member from Staten Island gives Cuomo the finger regarding the upcoming holiday restrictions due to the pandemic. His large extended family will be celebrating Thanksgiving in his Staten Island home as usual.
Ok, what, who's this again?
November 12, 2020 at 5:58 PM
Until a family member comes down with Covid-19 and then the tough talk will turn to whimpering and blaming others.
superdestroyer
November 13, 2020 at 9:49 AM
Trump has captured a demographic of dumb, deranged, dangerous and disobedient and Biden and the Demo-queers have done the same with a demographic that is sullen, strange, stupid and sneering.
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November 13, 2020 at 11:58 AM
Are you willing to do what the Chinese did in Wuhan? Blockade all travel, and force people to stay in their apartment buildings? Because I feel like that’s what it would take to meaningfully halt the spread at this point. Anything less is like trying to patch a bullet hole with a bandaid.
ack-acking
November 12, 2020 at 6:58 PM
They didn’t do that in Singapore or South Korea or Japan, all countries with much less virus than the U.S.
Lion of the Blogosphere
November 12, 2020 at 11:13 PM
Please write a post about Meriprolestan’s degenerate and dysgenic populace. Because that’s we’re heading to…a devolution.
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November 13, 2020 at 12:01 PM
Do you expect USA to have the same results in say PISA test as South Korea or Japan ?
In things that are measured at national scale US of today is getting more closer to Brasil then to 1950’s US. USA cannot even perform a reliable election process and declare a winner after a day tops .
Also countries like Switzerland, Belgium and Holland are not doing so well handling COVID and those countries are far less chaotic then the US .
eyaldavid
November 13, 2020 at 11:05 PM
In all of those countries kids went to school, including in Australia which didn’t even enforce masks except from when there was an outbreak in Victoria. There are 0 cases now in Australia and everything is back to normal. It just shows that there is no one way to solve the problem, it depends on many parameters and measurements and mentalities.
Hashed
November 14, 2020 at 11:11 PM
Because Australia was so good at controlling the virus through testing and contact tracing and isolation and quarantines, they were able to relax a lot of other stuff.
Lion of the Blogosphere
November 16, 2020 at 11:24 AM
Those are also fairly isolated, island nations with a culture of wearing masks anyway (and generally of following health guidelines and obeying the authorities). They reacted early, and cut it off when they only had a few hundred cases. I don’t think they’re doing anything now, that we’re not already doing.
ack-acking
November 15, 2020 at 12:09 PM
Well, he’s not out of office yet and there are a couple of Georgia runoffs to win…
IHTG
November 12, 2020 at 7:05 PM
It’s also obvious that eventually Covid-19 will be so bad we will say “oh shit, this is bad, we have to change our behavior” and state governments will start closing stuff
At least you finally admitted that STATE governments are the ones responsible.
destructure
November 13, 2020 at 4:11 AM
No, just assuming that Trump will do nothing as usual.
Lion of the Blogosphere
November 13, 2020 at 8:19 AM
Public health has always been a State function. That is why states and counties have health departments and deal with infectious disease on a daily basis.
superdestroyer
November 13, 2020 at 9:50 AM
Leave it up to the states. If some red states don’t want to close and the people support opening it up, federal govt. should not force lockdown on them. Same goes for blue states too. Just let people do whatever they want to do.
Longer this goes on, longer the wfh will continue for a lot of the people and that’s awesome.
mpt
November 13, 2020 at 11:30 AM
So if women want to have abortions, we should let them do whatever they want?
Lion of the Blogosphere
November 13, 2020 at 9:40 PM
Or let them be resentful and be terrible parents.
mpt
November 14, 2020 at 2:09 AM
Um, don’t we do that already?
370H55V
November 14, 2020 at 10:47 PM
“We already have 233,000+ deaths”
This is a similar figure to the death total for Europe (as in the EU, EEA and UK) of 262,000 deaths. But the population of Europe combined is well over 500 million.
prolier than thou
November 15, 2020 at 1:32 AM
It depends on which countries one includes as Europe. Looking at the numbers Turkey and Russia are definitely undercounting Covid-19 deaths or the health care in Russia is much better than anywhere else in Europe. The same for Turkey.
superdestroyer
November 16, 2020 at 3:48 PM
Another dashing good news for Lion and the gang as the city loses its striving and wealthier demographics:
https://nypost.com/2020/11/14/new-stats-reveal-massive-nyc-exodus-amid-coronavirus-crime/
These are the number of recorded exoduses in the city based on Zip Codes since March.
Many have left for the Hamptons and most likely it was to their vacation homes. Scarsdale makes the list right after the Hamptons.
Anyway, it’s all based on the status quo of strivers and proles. No Mid-Hudson Valley or the Finger Lakes…It’s all good as Meriprolestan devolves!
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November 15, 2020 at 12:09 PM
An earlier NY Post article for those who fled the city amid the pandemic and they are now back after a dead end romance.
https://nypost.com/2020/10/28/i-fled-nyc-and-it-was-the-worst-decision-of-my-life/
They couldn’t stand the countryside anymore. The problem stems from Meriprolestan’s lack of walkable and vibrant suburbia.
Except for certain cities, they’re just cultural wastelands of sprawl.
The Thacher dude in the article once lived in Beacon, NY – He was apparently not smart enough to strike a balance between a small city in the countryside and the Big Apple like some of the savvier residents who live in both places.
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November 16, 2020 at 12:43 PM
In order for the countryside to be enticing for demanding city slickers, besides a sizeable and walkable Main St., a few superb amenities are what you need to keep them there. Food is always a priority.
A great pizzeria, a very good sushi place, and a deli that offers excellent sandwiches and bagels, and the rest falls in place. These are the basic staples for city residents which most suburbs do not offer only subpar food, perhaps with the exception of the Hamptons as the definitive place that replicates what Manhattan has to offer.
Ok, what, who's this again?
November 16, 2020 at 7:15 PM
I believe a direct quote of yours back in February or so was “Americans care more about their 401k’s than they do about their grandparents”. You’ve been unwavering in pointing out that Trump’s non-response to the virus has cost hundreds of thousands of lives unnecessarily, most of them among the elderly (since they are far and away the most vulnerable demographic). You’ve been a strong advocate of the position that Trump has to go, as this is the only way to save our remaining grandparents from certain death. Well, meet the newest member of Biden’s Covid Response Team. Mission accomplished!
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/
Dmon
November 15, 2020 at 7:41 PM
Per Zeke Emmanuel in the link: “Certainly if there were to be a flu pandemic, a younger person who has yet to live a complete life ought to get the vaccine or any antiviral drugs.”
JRR
November 16, 2020 at 12:39 PM
Well, don’t get your hopes up.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/369/6509/1309
Dmon
November 16, 2020 at 7:13 PM
Ezekiel Emmanuel is almost completely correct. There is a proper time to die, though 75 does seem a bit young. More likely it varies by person, but as a general rule dementia to a point where the person cannot recognize family members is cetainly a benchmark.
Peter
ironrailsironweights
November 16, 2020 at 1:19 PM
I agree that people have an expiration date. But it varies greatly from person to person. For someone who neglects their health, it could be 70. For someone who takes care of themselves, it could be 100.
I also agree with Peter’s opinion of dementia. Fortunately, mind and body are linked. So, when one goes, the other usually isn’t too far behind.
destructure
November 16, 2020 at 9:36 PM
People with Alzheimer’s eventually die from it, but they have a very sad and pointless existence before death happens.
Lion of the Blogosphere
November 17, 2020 at 9:55 AM
It’s also interesting to note that finishing off the elderly population saves them from the shell shock of suffering from an America that’s a complete 360 when they were in their golden years of their prime instead of their degenerative years.
No longer is America White, rational in any sense, civic minded, but a nation weathering under a pandemic mired in multiculturacialism and grievance politics.
Minus well hit the grave and not think about it anymore!
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November 16, 2020 at 2:57 PM
…pointing out that Trump’s non-response to the virus has cost hundreds of thousands of lives unnecessarily
The other side could well have been worse; could well have copied Italy with mandatory hugging of infected aliens (sarc.)
Much of this is path independent.
newoctonian
November 16, 2020 at 4:10 PM
I never bothered with paintstakingly looking at all the data, because it is autistic and boring af, but there are two phenomena that have arisen in these months that are really something to behold:
a) Everybody seems to be an expert in epidemiology.
b) Civil liberties advocates everywhere against restricting movements.
Here in Spain we have many right-leaning people up in arms against the possibility of restricting Christmas, and our equivalent of Dr. Fauci has been getting heavy flak ever since all this started.
Maybe it is because I am an introvert and a homely person, but beyond the understandable preoccupation of small business owners and employees I don’t get what all the fuss is about.
Oscar_Cc
November 17, 2020 at 5:13 AM
I think it’s been pretty eye opening the behavior of the prole whites. People raging on here about the downfall of civilization because the cities are populated by NAMs, but NAMs have basically given no resistance to pandemic mitigation policies compared to people whites.
Zammyzpoo
November 17, 2020 at 8:29 AM
COVID isn’t causing the downfall of civilization. 0.05% of the population dying, the vast majority of whom are over 65, is not the downfall of civilization, no matter how many times Lion repeats the straw man “so you think old people deserve to die?”
Hermes
November 17, 2020 at 10:01 AM
I didn’t say that civilization would end.
Lion of the Blogosphere
November 17, 2020 at 11:23 AM
I was responding to Zammyzpoo’s comment.
Another thing I would add in response to that comment is that given the bias of the media, how do you know what NAMs are doing compared to whites? Videos of “Karens” throwing hissy fits about being required to wear masks go viral because in the dominant liberal view of our society, suburban whites are the Bad Guys while NAMs are the Good Guys. If NAMs ignore social distancing and mask rules, the media are not going to report on it nor the Twitterati post about it. Remember the news story a few days ago about two illegal house parties hosting hundreds of people being shut down? Though neither the headlines nor the articles mention this, of course, they were filled with blacks.
Hermes
November 17, 2020 at 12:12 PM
Covid-19 serves as a cleansing mechanism and reset for civilization. NAMs are suffering from the pandemic more than proles.
Big urban centers like NYC is over-gritty with an aging infrastructure. It’s a ponzi scheme, a welfare center for unproductive NAMs and a playground for value transference parasites. Maybe the virus will put an end to most of it.
To solve the boring monotony of suburbia requires the expansion of towns and villages into small cities with desirable amenities like good restaurants and art galleries. If this happens, places like NYC will be out of business for sure.
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November 17, 2020 at 10:44 AM
Blacks and latinos have been infected at much higher rates than whites. Blacks and Latinos just do not make a big deal about resisting mitigation and the media sees no reason to show how many blacks refuse to protect themselves and others.
superdestroyer
November 17, 2020 at 1:41 PM