Will the next Democratic president destroy the United States?
I can see people thinking that the question is hyperbolic. Obama didn’t destroy the United States, and neither did Clinton.
But it feels to me like things have changed. All of the Democrats seem to have bought into extreme rhetoric on immigration. Any sort of enforcement of immigration laws at all is now seen as immoral, evil, and racist. It’s even immoral, evil and racist to use force to deport someone who has been ordered by a judge to be deported because they committed crimes in the United States. It’s likely that the next Democratic president will create de facto open borders by ordering all immigration enforcement to stand down. This will immediately become well known throughout the world, and I forsee a mass immigration of tens of millions of people that will only stop when it becomes apparent that the United States has become just as crappy as the countries that people are emigrating from.
Unless you think that President Kamala Harris will take back everything she’s said up until now and govern like Obama?
Lion of the Blogosphere 
The very strange thing of modern liberals is that they are actually willing to be killed by migrants, Islamic fanatics, etc., but would love to deport or kill conservatives if given the chance. It’s as if their whole selves are given over to virtue signaling. Not surprising as almost all liberals I know either lack a theory of mind or are slaves to trends.
basedmillennial
July 22, 2019 at 11:59 AM
“Better dead than racist.”
Oswald Spengler
July 22, 2019 at 2:41 PM
OK, I hate SJW’s as much as anyone, but what’s a “theory of mind”? Asking seriously.
Marty
July 22, 2019 at 3:21 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind
basedmillennial seems to imply that the liberals he knows are incapable of recognizing that people on the right might have genuine disagreements with them. Instead, they view them as moral lepers who are entirely motivated by ignorance, intolerance, and hatred.
I don’t think liberals are any worse than conservatives when it comes to this. You see it all the time in the comments here. Lots of people who read this blog seem to think that most liberals secretly believe in HBD, which is a sort of esoteric and nerdy thing known mostly to spergs.
The general rule should be that people who you disagree with over politics–no matter what side you’re on or what side they’re on–are usually good people who have different backgrounds and perspectives.
Horace Pinker
July 22, 2019 at 8:07 PM
Haha, HBD isn’t known only to autists. In fact the vast majority of people that know about HBD (or intuitively recognize a difference in races) are the opposite of autists. What an idiot.
The Philosopher
July 23, 2019 at 9:45 AM
There’s a difference between HBD and the observations proles make about group differences. People who are aware of racial differences in brain size, twin studies, IQ, etc. are usually spergy.
Horace Pinker
July 23, 2019 at 11:44 AM
Theory of Mind is a developmental trait in all normal humans that allows them to conceptualize the fact that other individuals have their own thoughts apart from the thoughts of the subject. Its essentially the ability to empathize with the differing thoughts of others.
Individuals who lack theory of mind tend to be cognitively retarded or otherwise have a severe personality disorder, clinically speaking.
Jack
July 23, 2019 at 5:33 PM
It’s not really about virtue signaling as “good” white people. It’s about power and being at the top of the social/economic pyramid. It’s a vicious, traitorous, and hypocritical strategy which many are not even consciously aware of. It’s just their nature.
They want to slit the necks of the “bad” whites so that they can be richer and more powerful and therefore “win.” They figure they can be ivory gods behind their gated communities forever.
fakeemail
July 22, 2019 at 3:52 PM
“They want to slit the necks of the “bad” whites”.
The “they” here is mostly upper-middle class metro-area women.
They first strove to dominate the culture in the 60’s, but overreached, and so regrouped to employ subtler means..
In the Sixties, the Left didn’t control the institutions and levers of power, and chose to use violence, to try pressure the Establishment (to play ball). They control all those things now, and use violence as gratification and punishment. But the need to wield violence to GAIN power is gone.
Their violence didn’t gain them power, they achieved it through cultural warfare, and through The Long March Through The Institutions.
If they use violence now, it’ll be merely to crush remaining resistance.
aNanyMouse
July 22, 2019 at 11:59 PM
I should’ve written “and so, LATER regrouped to employ subtler means.”
aNanyMouse
July 23, 2019 at 12:01 AM
The Left always makes a country pay when they commit the sin of electing a Trump, Reagan, or Thatcher. We’ve now reached the demographic/ideological tipping-point where total revolution can be unloosed.
It’s going to be FULL-STOP: open borders (here comes the africans), reparations, and de-plaftorming/imprisoning of wrong-thinkers.
We’re 30 years away from Gulags, Washington monument coming down, social workers deciding if a child should go trans, and laws prohibiting whites from marrying each other.
It is a mistake to underestimate the insanity and bloodthirstiness of the Left. They believe what they say, want power, and reserve upon themselves all means necessary for their “just” goals, and they are playing for keeps.
Dystopic exaggeration? We’ll see. But in light of what has happened is it really inconceivable or does the mind simply not want to believe it?
“Yet the individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent.” -J Edgar Hoover
fakeemail
July 22, 2019 at 12:19 PM
Yeah 30 yrs., max. The only real question in my mind is how many of today’s 60+ white men will exact some revenge on the way out. Thanks for that Hoover quote, never seen it.
You know me
July 22, 2019 at 3:26 PM
“We’re 30 years away from Gulags, Washington monument coming down, social workers deciding if a child should go trans, and laws prohibiting whites from marrying each other.”
https://www.healthline.com/health/schizophrenia/paranoid-schizophrenia
Peter
ironrailsironweights
July 22, 2019 at 3:34 PM
GW was a racist, a a monument to him will trigger blacks who see it, so of course it has to come down. It will be replaced by an Obama Monument.
Lion of the Blogosphere
July 22, 2019 at 3:53 PM
Hey, I could be wrong. Maybe I’m not correctly seeing today’s prevailing trends nor their logical conclusions. I understand the difficulty in clarifying the greater world and one’s own impressions.
But was Solzhenitsyn crazy?
fakeemail
July 22, 2019 at 3:57 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
fakeemail
July 22, 2019 at 4:00 PM
If someone had told you in 1989 that in thirty years a child could be expelled for saying that there are only two genders (happened recently in Scotland), that young children would be being taught that changing sex is normal, and that having two dads is normal, that the German Chancellor could unilaterally open up the borders of Europe to millions of migrants with the connivence of the media, that America wouid be tearing down statues of once popular recording artists like Kate Smith because of hysteria over them emitting racist particles (or whatever) you would also have thought them insane.
The speed of events is such that none of those predictions seems impossible, and some (Washington monument, social workers deciding on giving children sex changes) seem so much within the flow of the zeitgeist that I’m surprised anyone would question it, let alone mock it.
prolier than thou
July 22, 2019 at 5:10 PM
Peter — Everyone says, “It can never happen here, until it does.” I’m not saying we can predict what will happen. I only know that something will happen. Some of it will have been predicted. And some of it will be beyond anything we could imagine. Do you think people even 10 years ago could have imagined that the courts would be allowing a mother to forcibly turn her 6 year old son into a tranny?
https://www.rt.com/usa/445172-transgender-child-mom-court/
destructure
July 22, 2019 at 5:27 PM
https://www.healthline.com/health/schizophrenia/paranoid-schizophrenia
I wonder if Russians gave the equivalent response to one another before 1917. They did after, and people were indeed locked up in mental institutions for noticing the new reality.
Jack
July 23, 2019 at 5:39 PM
Yeah, the 30 year estimate on the Washington Monument is way conservative. I give it 5 years tops. “Social workers deciding if a child should go trans” is a teeny bit hyperbolic, in that social workers aren’t going to randomly pick various kids for no reason and decide to turn them trans, but in the sense that parents will have no rights; it’s accurate. That’s already starting to happen. If a kid decides he wants to be trans, parents will have no rights to refuse puberty blockers and DSS will force them if they object. I don’t think we will see gulags or laws preventing whites from marrying each other, though.
Hermes
July 22, 2019 at 9:39 PM
Maybe some sane nation (China?) will do research on actually helping people with gender dysphoria so that they can recover and have healthier lives. Trans people have sky high rates of suicide and other self destructive mental illnesses.
One can hope.
not too late
July 24, 2019 at 11:53 PM
Yeah, and not only that, but prohibiting MEN and WOMEN from marrying each other, denial of franchise to straight white males, and reintroduction of slavery with blacks as masters and whites as slaves.
This is not sarcasm here. When I was a young neocon all too many years ago I thought the American public would never buy into the shit it has today. Now I believe that there is absolutely no idea too looney for a virtue-signaling public to buy in the name of trying to appear “enlightened”. God help us all.
370H55V
July 22, 2019 at 10:36 PM
There would be a civil war the likes of which the world has never seen if such an agenda were to come to fruition in America.
Oswald Spengler
July 23, 2019 at 10:20 AM
Gay marriage was the trial balloon. They picked something so atrocious and went whole hog to make it happen. It was like their moon landing. If they could sell gay marriage, they could sell anything. And so it goes.
On open borders, you know tons of criminals pour over the southern border now, mostly from Mexico and Latin America, but soon it will be from the whole world. Pelosi and Schumer are making a deal with the devil.
not too late
July 24, 2019 at 11:58 PM
Unless there is a major, sustained economic crisis with depression era levels of unemployment, it seems likely that things will keep grinding along as they are now. The culture will continue to deteriorate while identity politics intensify, but poor people will still be fat. It will constantly feel like the cold civil war might turn hot tomorrow, but there will be no major civil unrest. The worst we’re likely to get is more politically motivated mass shootings.
I don’t expect anything to change regarding immigration whether Trump is reelected or not, but if a democrat is elected it will probably fight the culture war from the oval office just like Trump is. The main difference will be that a lot of people on the right will freak out like leftists are freaking out about “fascism” now whenever Kamala Harris or whoever retweets Ta-Nehisi Coates.
At this point I’m absolutely sick of the culture war stuff and I find myself ignoring it more and more. I’m starting to feel hateful toward people on the left in a way that isn’t good.
Horace Pinker
July 22, 2019 at 12:50 PM
“The main difference will be that a lot of people on the right will freak out like leftists are freaking out about “fascism” now whenever Kamala Harris or whoever retweets Ta-Nehisi Coates.”
Mainstream media will just ignore rightists freaking out. Will call them conspiracy theorists, unhinged, etc.
Lion of the Blogosphere
July 22, 2019 at 1:09 PM
If the culture war did not exist, the media would have to invent it, because just like the WWF, silos = money. Some (eg Matt Taibbi) think they did invent it. Agree I am sick of the whole thing on both sides and wish we could all just get along as Americans.
hdo
July 22, 2019 at 2:02 PM
You may not be interested in culture war stuff, but culture war stuff is interested in you.
370H55V
July 22, 2019 at 10:37 PM
I’ve thought the same thing. Unless and until the masses are standing in Great Depression era bread lines again, nothing’s going to change.
Hermes
July 23, 2019 at 8:11 AM
“Will the Next Democratic President destroy the United States”
No, not destroy it, but will certainly turn it into a somewhat higher functioning version of Brazil.
Roli
July 22, 2019 at 12:52 PM
Forgive me if this is something you already covered, Lion. Have you read the book The Stranger in the Woods?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30687200-the-stranger-in-the-woods?ac=1&from_search=true
This was an incel who lived a half-decent life on his own terms for decades. He’s not my hero but I have more in common with him than most. Getting buzzed on cheap alcohol and listening to Skynyrd might be the best we can hope for and is actually not bad at all.
Literate
July 22, 2019 at 1:09 PM
Only a fascistas dictatorship witj death squads operating 25/7 can save this poor country. This is very simple. When I drink kosher Chilean wine, I raise a toast to memory of Pinochet. For this poor country it’s either Pinochet or the end.
Yakov
July 22, 2019 at 1:43 PM
This is at least the 2nd time you’ve used the phrase “25/7.” Something you know that we don’t about the number of hours in a day?
Hermes
July 22, 2019 at 9:42 PM
Yakov’s death squads will give 110% effort to the cause.
Oswald Spengler
July 23, 2019 at 10:22 AM
‘Something you know that we don’t about the number of hours in a day?’
Yes, we are living on borrowed time.
Yakov
July 23, 2019 at 12:23 PM
I don’t understand why important people on the left don’t notice or care that all of their priorities get trashed by uncontrolled immigration:
* Welfare
* Environment
* Women’s Rights
* Government budgets
It is almost like the new left want’s to burn everything down and doesn’t care.
Right now times are good with low unemployment and conditions improving. But surely when things start going legitimately downhill, there will be some objections.
Dan
July 22, 2019 at 2:07 PM
Dan, you should read my posts about the Just World Fallacy, it explains why the left doesn’t understand that. They they think immigration restriction is immoral, and people refuse to believe that bad results can happen from doing the good thing.
Lion of the Blogosphere
July 22, 2019 at 3:47 PM
Only an imbecile would think that something like “love” or “coming together” is always good and can only lead to good regardless of situation or context.
But most people are not able to think abstractly at all. I think it’s because abstract thought is not helpful for most individuals when it comes to survival and reproduction. Smiling dummies who want to “get along” always do ok.
fakeemail
July 22, 2019 at 4:21 PM
If nothing else, President Trump has the Democrat party on the record as being against borders, against rule of law and for mass third world migration.
That is important, because shit is going to get worse and keep getting worse, until borders are put in place. The Democrats own the coming catastrophe.
Democrats have f$cked up, intellectually. It is like going all in on Communism, but worse. History will demonstrate that they have made the biggest f$ck up ever, chaos, shattered budgets, garbage cities. The cost of this may be civilization itself and they own it utterly.
Dan
July 22, 2019 at 5:58 PM
They need immigration to gain permanent control of power. Pro-immigration is treason. This poor country has to to have a revolution and a civil war. Nothing else will save it. Absolutely nothing!
Yakov
July 22, 2019 at 7:34 PM
It will be another Flight 93 Election.
https://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/
Roger
July 22, 2019 at 2:11 PM
Much worse actually. If Hillary won, immigration policy probably wouldn’t have changed much from Obama.
Lion of the Blogosphere
July 22, 2019 at 3:48 PM
If Hillary won, immigration policy probably wouldn’t have changed much from Obama.
Trump did win and immigration policy, in practice, is basically the same as under Obama.
Some of my Best Friends are Black
July 22, 2019 at 5:27 PM
Right, because if HIllary had won, the left wouldn’t have gone crazy. Trump did that to them and it’s impossible to put that back in the box. It’s crazy from here on out.
Mike Street Station
July 22, 2019 at 6:44 PM
Seriously, guys? You’ve all forgotten about https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Texas ?
Hillary was guaranteed to do a LOT of damage, precisely because she would have been able to actually execute Obama’s most destructive policy for four full years, when Obama himself couldn’t force it through. It would not have been impossible to recover, but it would require someone much better than Trump in 2020.
As is, we have a much better shot at hanging on with the flawed heroes have.
DB
July 23, 2019 at 10:05 AM
Leftists haven’t thought about any of this. They only “think” (more accurately, feel) about a poor individual case that they heard about on NPR.
I continue to be absolutely astonished that neither Trump nor any other Republican I can think of makes the case that immigration is the CAUSE of the widening gap between the 1% and the rest of us. Of course the poor get poorer and the rich get richer when the supply of labor at the bottom is limitless. You can’t repeal the law of Supply and Demand.
But Occupy Wall Street and its progeny never make this connection. They just rant about the 1%.
Amused Observer
July 22, 2019 at 2:23 PM
I’v
Lion of the Blogosphere
July 22, 2019 at 3:49 PM
I’ve repeatedly observed that Trump sees immigration as a law and order problem rather than an economic problem.
Lion of the Blogosphere
July 22, 2019 at 3:50 PM
Funny that, how no one in the mainstream links the following:
-Immigration and Wealth Gap: heard from any Dem or Rep? Heard it from any union?
-Immigration/population and Nature/energy conservation: heard it from the Sierra club? Heard it from the feed the Africa crowd? Bill Gates?
Is this thing on?
fakeemail
July 22, 2019 at 4:15 PM
I’m persuaded by the argument (articulated here? By destructure?) that Obama reignited the culture wars through Trayvon Martin in order to dissipate energy from Occupy and to re-direct Leftist energies away from the finance industry and into race conflicts.
Curle
July 22, 2019 at 5:43 PM
If tomorrow, a Republican would challenge Trump for the primary on just that point he would defeat Trump, sweep every state and go on to win the election in 2020. It’s really that simple.
Daniel Heneghan
July 22, 2019 at 7:16 PM
Its because Occupy Wall Street and its progeny don’t care about the poor, they only care that some people are richer than them. If they could push a button that killed everyone richer than them but also killed everyone poorer than them, they would push that button.
chris
July 23, 2019 at 3:53 AM
They would also gladly push a button that would exterminate anyone who didn’t absolutely agree with them on every issue.
Oswald Spengler
July 23, 2019 at 10:25 AM
Good insight. “Anarchists” (ie: the genocidally oriented / frontal lobe impaired communist vanguard) are basically the young upper-middle and middle class rejects who are willing to burn down what is above them because they cannot attain it. While simultaneously not actually having a taste for the real lesser educated proles whom they claim to speak for as a sort of disembodied army, and who they will alter oppress under the guise of liberation (and who they culturally oppress now).
In Philadelphia, the neighborhood that serves as the primary Antifa hive exists only because it is in the shadow of the University of Pennsylvania private police force (armed and with as much police power as any Philadelphia Police station). On the other side of them begins a vast ghetto in which no Antifa member would consider residing.
Jack
July 23, 2019 at 6:05 PM
What is the current Republican president doing to save the United States? He is focusing on some dipshit rapper, and ignoring the HB visa scandal.
The most important Epstein news of the day is the revelation that Forbes magazine published verbatim public relations releases from Epstein. The real question is how many other news outlets did the same, and not only with respect to Epstein?
gothamette
July 22, 2019 at 3:12 PM
A related question…Will the next Democratic President be the final pteifent of an intact United States of America?
Oswald Spengler
July 22, 2019 at 3:21 PM
pteifent = president
Oswald Spengler
July 22, 2019 at 3:23 PM
It’s a trick question because there never will be another Democratic president.
VSGPDJT will rule for life, then pass on the presidency to his sons.
I thought everyone knew this.
gda53
July 22, 2019 at 3:22 PM
there never will be another Democratic president.
Immigration and demographics have already tipped the scales for Democrat presidents for evermore. There will never be another Republican president and Donald Trump will not seek a second term.
E. Rekshun
July 22, 2019 at 5:32 PM
Trump is definitely going to seek a second term. To suggest anything else is nonsense.
Lion of the Blogosphere
July 22, 2019 at 6:55 PM
People are going to think you’re a left-wing plant if you say stuff like that. It’s a liberal fantasy that Trump only wanted to run for president to boost his own ne ego, and never wanted or expected to win, nor did he actually want to be president, so he’s not going to run for reelection.
Hermes
July 23, 2019 at 8:09 AM
No president doesn’t run for re-election. When was the last time that happened?
Lion of the Blogosphere
July 23, 2019 at 11:14 AM
Johnson.
bomag
July 23, 2019 at 8:49 PM
I hope the next Democratic president would destroy the United States, but I know that it won’t happen in the way I want..
Therefore, America must never get any Democrat as president ever again.
On the other side, Donald Trump is also destroying America, but in the way that I want. So even though he’s not doing it fast enough, I hope he stays president.
SC
July 22, 2019 at 4:01 PM
How is Trump destroying the United States?
Oswald Spengler
July 22, 2019 at 5:09 PM
He’s triggering liberals and moderates, which is what I want. I want them to get angrier.
I wish Trump was actually more divisive. I wish he actually implemented some of the things he said, like a Muslim registry. I wish that conditions were worse at the illegal immigrant detention camps. I wish Trump was more racist. I wish that he and some other top-level Republicans would flat out state that only white Christian men can be “real Americans”.
And I’m not sure if he’ll win the 2020 election. I hope he does, but I also hope he loses the popular vote by an insane margin. This would really piss off liberals and moderates.
I want Trump and the Republican party to do more to divide America by ideological, social class, lifestyle, values, religious, and political lines.
SC
July 23, 2019 at 8:55 AM
Then you should be using the official, US-law sanctioned term “illegal alien,” not this “immigrant” euphemism.
Hermes
July 23, 2019 at 11:30 AM
SC, OK, I’ll bite, why do you “want Trump and the Republican party to do more to divide America by ideological, social class, lifestyle, values, religious, and political lines?” Like, you want a civil war or something?
hdo
July 23, 2019 at 2:34 PM
@hdo
No, I abhor violence. You can destroy something without committing acts of violence against others.
SC
July 23, 2019 at 4:42 PM
As to the United States being “destroyed,” I guess that depends on what you mean by that. I do think, given the insane craze that the left is in, they are probably at their most dangerous state ever. Absolute loons are giving the Democratic Party marching orders, and “The Squad” apparently has Pelosi on a leash, something I’ve never seen before.
There is a lot of ruin in a country and probably no nation had as much “seed corn” stocked up as the United States. However we’ve been burning it for a while. Chavez became President of Venezuela in 1999 and his policies made a rich (for South America) country a wasteland in less than twenty years. It would take longer for the US, but a President Harris could set all of the policies that would ruin the country; basically her and every other Democrat’s platform, that include spending far in excess of our entire GDP.
I just want to do all I can to slow it down. I know I can’t stop it but I would like to hold off the night as long as possible.
Mike Street Station
July 22, 2019 at 6:52 PM
but a President Harris could set all of the policies that would ruin the country
But why couldn’t conservative groups tie up and negate all of her policies in the courts (like the liberal groups do)?
Oh, the stupid party; never mind.
E. Rekshun
July 23, 2019 at 11:55 AM
Plus the courts are on the side of the liberals. Especially with immigration.
Lion of the Blogosphere
July 23, 2019 at 1:05 PM
The current GOP doesn’t have a great record of turning the tide on Democratic initiatives. Using history as a guide, Republican policies are temporary, and Democratic ones are permanent.
Mike Street Station
July 23, 2019 at 7:16 PM
Come on, you need to get out of the right wing information bubble and breath some free air.
The squad are from the left wing of the Democratic party. When push came to shove on funding homeland security and the border patrol, it was the Republican Senate proposal that was adopted in the House. The squad was furious. They did not want the Senate plan put to a vote in the House, but the majority of Democrats in the House did and it passed. The majority of elected Democrats in the House are more centrist than the Squad.
Saying Steve King == Republican party is much closer to the truth given who is in the White House than claiming the Squad == Democratic party.
MikeCA
July 22, 2019 at 8:10 PM
“Saying Steve King == Republican party is much closer to the truth given who is in the White House than claiming the Squad == Democratic party.”
Baloney. The Squad is Nancy Pelosi’s proxy. Pelosi could shut them down at any time but chooses not to because she supports their agenda. And if she supports their agenda, then their agenda is face of the Democratic Party.
Imagine Rand Paul shooting off his mouth the way the squad does. It would not happen.
map
July 23, 2019 at 1:34 AM
Their base seems ready for the great leap forward:
“91% of Dems think political violence is what comes next”
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/07/18/americans-say-the-nations-political-debate-has-grown-more-toxic-and-heated-rhetoric-could-lead-to-violence/
guest
July 22, 2019 at 10:50 PM
No, “guest”, this 91% only said yes to a question about, if ” ‘heated or aggressive’ language directed by elected officials against certain people or groups makes violence against them MORE likely.”
Nothing here about what comes NEXT.
Things are bad, but let’s stop the wanton stoking of paranoia.
aNanyMouse
July 22, 2019 at 11:25 PM
I should’ve put it “Nothing here about what COMES next.”
aNanyMouse
July 22, 2019 at 11:27 PM
It is just the opposite of what you think. The Deep State is in a civil war. It is removing its political, celebrity and economic proxy classes, starting with the political first. The over-the-top batsh*t craziness of the left is a last gasp before they are systematically discredited and removed.
What the Left failed to understand is that Trump was their last chance. Trump is a conciliatory figure that combined aspects of Republican and Democrat policies to smooth out a steadier course for the United States. This was necessary because Hydra’s initial plans failed and a course correction was necessary. Trump was the lynchpin provided: play ball with him while maintaining appearances and other measures will not be taken.
Elements of Hydra did not agree. They tried to go their own way, or build their own networks, or lurch leftward in a desperate attempt to curry populist favor, and it failed. Now the knives are out to teach the dilettantes how it is done.
Watch the colossal Bob Mueller failure bomb on Thursday. It will be epic.
This is all a process of debriding. A similar process occurred in the Pentagon Papers/Watergate era, where the Deep State also removed its political class after colossal failures.
map
July 23, 2019 at 1:29 AM
map,
Sincere question: Is this personal theory or do you have credible sources?
Jack
July 23, 2019 at 6:14 PM
Jack,
It’s a personal theory, one I got from observing events over the last few years. We’re entirely in Plato’s Cave here.
I wish there were a series of credible sources to refer to.
map
July 24, 2019 at 1:23 AM
Jack,
Consider a documentary series on Prime video called “Wormwood.” I watched the first episode. I was watching…and watching…and watching…
Then it dawned on me that the subject of the documentary was not a victim…but an accomplice.
map
July 24, 2019 at 1:25 AM
Pro Immigration is as important to the democratic party as abortion prohibition is to the republican party.
The problem is that things polarized so much that no side can reason anymore. Almost a civil war.
Yes, i am liberal but agree with you that immigration only impoverishes the ordinary people.
See, Lion, we both have the same problem: we are well balanced. You are a conservative who defends choice. The religious right doesnt like having you on their side.
Brazilian
July 23, 2019 at 7:17 AM
> Yes, i am liberal
Called it from Day 1. What are you on, screen name 1000 at this point?
BTW you are not a liberal. You aren’t very liberal about the rights of human fetuses to complete their life cycle. That’s about as inhumane as it gets.
> The religious right doesnt like having you on their side.
Not arrogant at all, presuming to speak for a group of millions of people that you aren’t even a part of.
Literally nothing you are writing comes off as Latino at all. Nice try though (NOT!!!!!)
Fact Checker
July 24, 2019 at 4:45 AM
Trump might get reelected but we know that the republican party is doomed. The alliance of pro business with religious prolife freaks doesnt have the electoral appeal it had in 1980.
Actually Trump gave a last breath because he is a TV personality so that added some votes. But, ending this lucky strike (if you are republican), conservatism is doomed.
Go and see the average age of the republican voter and how religious attendance is going down.
Brazilian
July 23, 2019 at 7:23 AM
I’m not sure how accurate religious attendance is as a proxy for majority voting anymore, when mainstream Christianity refuses to reject what are now the core mechanisms of the internationalist agenda that are against the political interests of grassroots conservatism. It seems that it is increasingly more conservative-consistent to not attend religious services than to attend them.
That’s not accounting for the vast array of private congregations that are more old school / apocalypse oriented rather than oriented toward social justice. Those tend to be in the South or out in the sticks, however, and not available to everyone.
Jack
July 23, 2019 at 6:21 PM
That’s so weird because I was just thinking I would like to get a deluded leftist’s opinion about what would be good for the Republican Party.
Fact Checker
July 24, 2019 at 4:47 AM
“No president doesn’t run for re-election. When was the last time that happened?”
LBJ.
curri
July 23, 2019 at 5:40 PM
LBJ ran for re-election, but dropped out after doing poorly in the New Hampshire primary. But he still served more than one term.
Lion of the Blogosphere
July 23, 2019 at 5:42 PM