Lion of the Blogosphere

Elizabeth Warren insults Native Americans

The NY Times reports that Native Americans are pissed at Elizabeth Warren for “privileging nonindigenous definitions of being indigenous.”

I can’t say I understand that sentence, but it’s funny when the people pushing political correctness can’t follow their own rules. It’s time for Warren to step down and let someone more woke take her place.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 17, 2018 at EST pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. Lion, there is a great discussion of diversity and NY public schools. Discussion is on Urban Baby and is worth its own thread http://www.urbanbaby.com/topics/55870253

    Arvindra

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

    • Ugh…gruesome how the sjw’s try to police the discussion. Hopefully the lurkers are learning.

      Mrs Stitch

      October 17, 2018 at EST pm

  2. PC has one rule: Liberals are just, and conservatives are evil.

    Season to taste.

    Justice Duvall

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

  3. I’m pissed that she privileges non statutory definitions of immigrant.

    Curle

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

  4. Tariq Nasheed for Senator from Massachusetts

    Georgia Resident

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

  5. They’re pissed off because she blatantly used Native American credentials to get a tenured position at Harvard. Whitey was actually supposed to let Indians get ahead, not for Whitey herself to get ahead. If you think about it, this actually does conform what minorities say about whites using privilege to get ahead in a twisted way.

    They secretly know whites are more intelligent than them and resent that. They just can’t call it out because it would validate biological determinism, something which our egalitarian society stridently denies.

    As for the usage, it probably was pretty clever of Warren to use it to leapfrog the competition at Harvard given how competitive it is. I don’t deny that she is smart, just that she played an underhanded technique (admittedly, other prospective academics do so in order to get tenure since it is so coveted). In the age of Rachel Dolezal and others being caught, the technique won’t fly anymore.

    Red pill aspie

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

    • If Warren had simply said that like many in the USA that she had some Amerindian ancestors and was proud of that, she would have been fine. But this is not how the far-left works. It’s all a manipulation for them. The far-right represses, the far-left lies. For them ‘truth’ is a very believable lie.

      That she ‘doubled down’ when denounced by Cherokees shows how reality-free she is…

      The Old Libertarian

      October 19, 2018 at EST am

  6. MEH 0910

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

    • Remember that Amy Harmon reads by blog, or at least has read some of it in the past.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 17, 2018 at EST pm

      • How do you know this?

        gothamette

        October 17, 2018 at EST pm

      • I talked to her once about my blog. And I commend her for respecting my wish not to have my real name mentioned in the NY Times.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 17, 2018 at EST pm

      • Oh, sorry – I asked this question again. I confused the two posts & thought my question ended up in the spam folder. Ignore the 2nd instance.

        gothamette

        October 17, 2018 at EST pm

      • Harmon seems one of those who position opposition smears for the far-left.

        Check out her past articles. No wonder she monitors you.

        The Old Libertarian

        October 19, 2018 at EST am

    • “There is no evidence, scientists stress, that environmental and cultural differences will not turn out to be the primary driver of behavioral differences between population groups,.”

      Let that one sink in for a second as you contemplate the small volume size constituting the average journalist brain.

      I guess there’s also no evidence that Santa Claus won’t turn out to be the primary driver of behavioral differences between population groups.

      Curle

      October 17, 2018 at EST pm

  7. Cognitive decline in women starts decades earlier than in men, right around age of 45, judging by standardized tests like SAT/GRE and personal experiences. I trust my personal experiences more than standardized tests, but in this case they agree.

    My 2¢

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

    • She might have been book-smart but she’s street-dumb. I know an Okie who tested at 168 in school but lives hand to mouth at 69. He would talk himself into the dumbest shit…I think the small town or rural upbringing was isolating back then, maybe not so much now.

      Mrs Stitch

      October 17, 2018 at EST pm

    • As long as you have a wide sample size I hope?

      Curle

      October 17, 2018 at EST pm

  8. This one actually has IMO a sane translation:

    We decide who is a Cherokee, not you, not Bustamante, and not 23andme.

    Jehu

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

    • “We (Cherokees) decide who is a Cherokee.”

      The Cherokee tribe’s leadership must read Steve Sailer.

      Georgia Resident

      October 17, 2018 at EST pm

      • The far-left, as they put it, loves to ‘appropriate’ the ability of groups to control their membership?

        The Old Libertarian

        October 19, 2018 at EST am

  9. Warren is a left wing psycho feminist, she deserves the shit people throw at her.. I’m with the Indians on this one.

    Avidaman

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

  10. As an aside, I like the use of the word “privileging” in place of the phrase “arguing for” or “suggesting.” That way, you can short circuit any argument of an opponent by suggesting that there is some inequality in their proposition, even if it has nothing to do with the proposition. For example, “Lion privileges Robert Heinlein’s theories of society.” Which must be wrong, because privilege is wrong, unless it is earned. And saying something doesn’t make it earned. This of course leads to absurdities like “you’re privileging the idea that you earned money because you worked for it.”

    Joe

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

    • Colleges privilege social justice theories all the time; e.g., give them unjustified stature as ‘disciplibes’ when there isn’t much discipline present.

      Curle

      October 17, 2018 at EST pm

  11. Lion, did you read the comments under the NYT article? I am seriously amazed at how many people wrote that the DNA test *proves* what Elizabeth Warren has claimed all along. I have not followed her Native American claims that closely, but the DNA results don’t seem to bolster her claim in any significant way (and I’m being very generous in my choice of words). Sheesh!!

    Johnson

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

    • You are right. She is right. Everyone is right here.

      My 2c

      October 17, 2018 at EST pm

  12. The SJW Revolution devours its own children.

    Oswald Spengler

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

  13. MEH 0910

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

    • These people are literally batshit crazy.

      gothamette

      October 17, 2018 at EST pm

    • Man, they’re pissed. That’s the worst photograph I’ve ever seen of Elizabeth Warren.

      Richard

      October 18, 2018 at EST am

  14. Her far left counterpart Bernie Sanders is loved by Native Americans. I know this because I attended a Bernie rally in 2015. There were a lot of Natives there (I live near an Indian reservation), they were handing him gifts they made and they wildly applauded when Sanders said that Native Americans are the original environmentalist, long before it became trendy. If Warren didn’t make a mockery out of Indian ancestry they would probably like her too…but they don’t and I’m happy about that.

    Jay Fink

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

  15. What’s hottter than hott chix? Strong hott chix!

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    October 17, 2018 at EST pm

    • They don’t need firearms because they have the other kind of guns!

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 17, 2018 at EST pm

    • Feminine chicks cooking

      Hashed

      October 18, 2018 at EST am

    • I went on a date with a girl who was into the crossfit stuff. She was fairly pretty, fun, and we had a lot in common but I just couldn’t picture myself sleeping with a girl with broad shoulders. Just a major turnoff.

      everybodyhatesscott

      October 18, 2018 at EST am

    • I hope nobody is naive enough to think that those plates are real. If already…

      Yakov

      October 18, 2018 at EST am

      • I’m not sure exactly what those plates weigh, though it’s obvious they aren’t the standard 45’s like most plates that size. If they were 45’s the girl in the red shorts at the 2:10 mark would be doing hang cleans and multiple squats with 405 pounds, which would be not far off a world record. Not to mention incredibly dangerous without spotters or a rack.

        Whatever the amounts, it’s definitely true that the girls are very strong. I’d say stronger than 99% of women and maybe 75% of men.

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        October 18, 2018 at EST pm

      • I have no respect for fake plates. Those women have zero attraction, these are the real ones.

        Yakov

        October 18, 2018 at EST pm

  16. My friends a quarter Indian and always considered himself white. He visited his uncle or something who lived on a reservation and hated every minute of it, he came back even more sure he was white. My dogs probably has more indian blood than Warren what a ho.

    Avidaman

    October 18, 2018 at EST am

    • Just driving through a reservation will be one of the most depressing experiences of your life.

      Richard

      October 18, 2018 at EST am

      • Unless the reservation has a casino, or a store that sells Kachina dolls and cheap cigarettes.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 18, 2018 at EST am

      • I remember the first time I drove through an Indian reservation. I was 14 years old and actually expected to see teepees and Indians wearing their traditional garb running wild making the Indian war cry sound. I was disappointed when none of that existed. Instead it was mostly a bunch of public housing.

        Jay Fink

        October 18, 2018 at EST pm

      • They have a pow wow in Mesa each year where you can see the Indian stuff.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 18, 2018 at EST pm

  17. Speaking of left wingers who don’t follow their own rules, did people see that Washington Post op-ed in which it was pointed out that Ruth Bader Ginsberg has been on the Supreme Court for 25 years and has hired only one black clerk?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/ruth-bader-ginsburg-can-learn-something-from-brett-kavanaugh/2018/10/15/b8974a86-cd77-11e8-a360-85875bac0b1f_story.html

    Gozo

    October 18, 2018 at EST am

    • Like I’d said before we may yet come to miss her. Who is more likely to hire based on merit she or Kav?

      Yakov

      October 18, 2018 at EST am

      • I’m glad Kav got nominated because he had to be protected from that baseless attack but his response was “look how not sexist I am, I hired all women!” does not inspire me with hope. “Dems are the real sexists” will work about as well as “Dems are the real racists” Republicans need to get it through their thick skulls that leftist do not care about being hypocrites.

        everybodyhatesscott

        October 18, 2018 at EST am

      • Remember: Kav is a moron. Never, ever forget that. You can’t fix stupid.

        Yakov

        October 18, 2018 at EST am

      • I heard he was planning to pull that stunt before the false allegations came out. Can anyone provide more info?

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        October 18, 2018 at EST pm

  18. It’s funny the cherokee want to discount dna in this instance, but previously desired to exclude african freedmen from tribal membership since they weren’t genetically native american.

    Either way warren is less than 1% native american.

    One reason I did an ancestrydna test was curiosity if there had been any “contact” between native americans and my part of the family that came over 1700s. I have a great-to-some-exponent uncle who was killed by indians so if follows reason there might have been other contact, consensual or not.

    I’ve read a few captivity narratives of white women held by various tribes and one thing they adamantly point out is they were never “violated” in any way despite being beaten, starved and otherwise ill treated. Assuming this is true, it makes you wonder why they weren’t raped along with all the other abuse. Was there some kind of NA taboo against sexual contact with white women? I know it was common for white soldiers to take NA “fort wives” but it seems, historically, white women reproducing with native american men by force or otherwise was rare.

    toomanymice

    October 18, 2018 at EST am

    • If the scalped and ate prisoners, why wouldn’t thy rape them? Noble savages or something?

      Yakov

      October 18, 2018 at EST am

    • I think it’s mostly about social status, work, and material possessions.

      Natives didn’t own a lot of stuff. Hunter-gatherers work about 4 hours a day. If you were a white lazy man who just wanted to go hunting and fishing, you could get a native wife, and she wouldn’t nag you to better yourself.

      On the other hand, if you were a white woman, and got a native husband, you could look forward to sleeping on the ground, owning one set of clothes, and having a husband with no job, and no status whatsoever in your own culture, and no ambition beyond going hunting and fishing.

      I don’t have any statistics on this, but a historian who studied the time period told me that it was somewhat of a scandal how many lazy white men ‘went native’.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      October 18, 2018 at EST pm

      • There has been some chatter over the years in colonial history circles about the appropriate treatment of NA complaints of the time regarding whites setting a bad example regarding comparative coddling of white women. I’m given to understand that the records are full of complaints of this type but historians have neglected to highlight it.

        Curle

        October 20, 2018 at EST am

    • Why would you assume it’s true? There’s an obvious incentive to lie.

      Richard

      October 18, 2018 at EST pm

      • Yes and no. Fanny Kelly’s captivity narrative is remarkably graphic, describing crimes in detail committed against her and other women and children. She was not shy about what happened to her. But she makes a point that she was never raped, and claims one Sioux- after she had lived with the tribe more than a year- proposed partnership to her which she declined. I’m no expert but have read some and can’t recall any mention of indian men raping colonial women. All kinds of murder and torture, yes, but not rape. Which makes me wonder if there was some NA cultural taboo against rape or sexual contact with white women.

        toomanymice

        October 18, 2018 at EST pm

      • There’s a more relevant taboo against miscegenation that you’re overlooking. Violent young men don’t capture women because they want their laundry done.

        Richard

        October 19, 2018 at EST am

    • Not raping enemy women is a feature of matrilinear societies. How many Palestinian women have been violated by Israeli men?

      oogenhand

      October 19, 2018 at EST am

    • They were often raped. Some had racially mixed bastards from it. Rape and warfare have gone hand in hand since prehistory. Why would the Amerindians treat the hated White invaders any differently.

      Georgia Resident

      October 19, 2018 at EST pm

      • For all the violence committed I have never seen an account of a white woman raped by NA. Perhaps gogenhand is correct that matrilineal societies don’t rape enemy women?

        toomanymice

        October 19, 2018 at EST pm

      • “Rape and warfare have gone hand in hand since prehistory.“

        The Spanish claimed the NAs destroyed Juan Pardo’s string of forts in North Carolina and Tennessee back in 1565 when the NA women started pushing out mixed babies. Some believe the story of the destruction was a head-fake to mislead the English and that the Spanish never left, just mixed in with the natives. It is a sign of the times that too many modern historians presume the NA mixed births were the result of rape though the Spanish records suggest so.

        Joara, one of the forts, is being excavated. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_San_Juan_(Joara)

        Curle

        October 20, 2018 at EST am

    • “but previously desired to exclude african freedmen from tribal membership“

      I understand the Cherokee have been fighting a war against fake Indian tribes for years and that there has been an ongoing battle in the state of Tennessee relating to state recognition, as opposed to federal recognition, of some of these tribes composed mostly of white, and possibly black, poseurs.

      Simultaneously, there has been a battle between some factions of the Creek Peoples and Cherokee where the Creek make an assortment of claims regarding Cherokee legitimacy based on the idea that the British gave too much territorial status to the Cherokee because the Cherokee were partially amalgamated with stateless Spanish exiles who were easier to deal with.

      Curle

      October 20, 2018 at EST am

  19. The one-drop rule doesn’t apply? We all know that.

    Anthony Bruck

    October 18, 2018 at EST pm


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