https://heartiste.wordpress.com/
I thought this platform was safe from censorship because we are paying for it, and it’s a tiny company compared to Twitter or Facebook. But now it looks like EVERY internet company is censoring the same people.
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Lion of the Blogosphere 
In this particular case he kind of had it coming for turning the place into a sub-Gab cesspit tbh.
IHTG
May 10, 2019 at 7:31 PM
This is terrible news because the world of PUA and specifically Roissy/Citizen Renegade/Chateau Heartiste was a gateway into the red pill for many. He should have changed his name and rebranded again to shake off the heat as he did in the past much like Eric Prince and Blackwater, then Xe, and now Academi.
I know they’re going after anyone who isn’t controlled opposition (they also went after Jay’s Analysis) but CH should not have let his comment section degenerate into a cesspool. It was unreadable and even borderline insane with anyone semi-normal denounced. They were definitely thrilled at the idea of pushing the envelope as far as they could go without getting into illegal territory but now we all suffer because of their stupidity.
I really hope he backed everything up because the loss of such past wisdoms/gems is a crime against knowledge.
redarmyvodka
May 10, 2019 at 10:12 PM
2 years ago, I saw a guy, presumably a prole, walking the streets of Manhattan, on the Ave of the Americas (6th Ave) wearing a black t-shirt with white wording on his chest that says “Blackwater”. My eyes followed his walk as I was moving the opposite direction, and he became increasingly uneasy that my eyes glued to his shirt while he was moving.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 10, 2019 at 11:23 PM
“This is terrible news because the world of PUA and specifically Roissy/Citizen Renegade/Chateau Heartiste was a gateway into the red pill for many.”
Jesus.
It was the gateway into neo-Nazism.
What a fucked up maniac you are.
gothamette
May 11, 2019 at 1:06 PM
@gothamette, he didn’t become an anti-Semite until about 2 years ago; the blog existed for 10 years before that. He definitely was a gateway into the red pill for many.
Hermes
May 12, 2019 at 12:53 PM
He knew it was coming, he mentioned it a time or two over the last year. I’m sure it’s all backed up.
Where and how he pops up, we’ll see.
No one “Has it coming” for writing like his. Comment sections are comment sections, almost all are sewery these days. I really never read his comment section, but read almost all of his posts.
We have a real problem on our hands here.
Putting On Its Shoes
May 12, 2019 at 5:09 PM
Gothamette wrong as usual and proof that women are more conformist/hierarchical hence having no place in dissident movements. They also want to shift the discussion toward a beta/cuck approved framework. The MAGA agenda of simply returning to 1998 is considered neo-Nazism in this day and age as well.
redarmyvodka
May 13, 2019 at 5:49 AM
What does “sub-Gab” mean?
Margaret Laureys
May 10, 2019 at 10:30 PM
Correction, it was Count Dankula who was demonetized. Paul Joseph Watson was kicked off Facebook.
I can keep track of them all now.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 12:30 AM
It means “even worse than Gab”.
IHTG
May 11, 2019 at 6:55 AM
@Gothamette No I wasn’t thinking transgender.
For some reason or other, I thought it might have had multiple contributors. I was never a regular (I can’t see why a woman would be). Still, there were a few times that HBD*Chick referenced a post on the site. It was on blogrolls of many places I visited.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 11:53 PM
I heard that Heartiste changed, but I never checked back to see.
What did they become?
Meanwhile on YouTube, Sargon of Akkad has been demonetized, every vid. Also Paul Joseph Watson.
Neither of those two were a patch on much of the stuff at Ron Unz. Neither ever mentioned that humans may vary by ethnicity.
Sargon made some stupid joke about a Labour MP (he’s in England), “I wouldn’t even rape you.” I can’t remember the context. But he did on Twitter, not YouTube.
Tim Pool thinks it’s because he running as candidate for European Union Parliament. I can’t see that at all.
New censorship considers thing you off platform.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
Frau Katze
May 10, 2019 at 11:56 PM
The scuttlebutt was that Heartiste was a cadre of writers, one of whom included the original host. He is approaching middle age, and apparently he was trying to rebrand himself to get new fans. CH pretty much sucked the PUA angle dry.
Allyn71
May 11, 2019 at 8:29 AM
“I heard that Heartiste changed, but I never checked back to see.
What did they become?”
“They”? Was he transgender?
Anyway, he became a full-on Jew-hating Nazi.
“approaching middle age”
No, well into it. He got exposed by some chick a few years ago, who stood up to his bullshit.
He’s a middle-aged non-entity, late 40s, works in government. Hardly the alpha he pretends to be.
gothamette
May 11, 2019 at 1:07 PM
No he didn’t have it coming. Don’t do their dirty work for them because it isn’t like a liberal would consider you or this place any better.
Richard
May 11, 2019 at 4:03 AM
Come now. If you’re going to run a blog with a Daily Stormer-calibre commentariat then you need to be on your own server. It’s incredible the site lasted as long as it did.
IHTG
May 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM
We’re at this point because the gatekeepers changed their values, not Roissy, who’s been writing and modding the same way for years. People who didn’t experience it are never going to believe how open and free-wheeling internet culture used to be.
Richard
May 11, 2019 at 10:16 AM
Are you paid by a comment farm pr firm for spouting corporate power censorship
Hhh
May 12, 2019 at 11:27 AM
we are paying for it
Sorry, wat?
S.J., Esquire
May 10, 2019 at 7:39 PM
WordPress charges money.
Lion of the Blogosphere
May 10, 2019 at 9:26 PM
Since when? I once had a blog there, and paid no money!
S.J., Esquire
May 10, 2019 at 9:38 PM
Lion, don’t worry. Just blog about how much you hate proles, and you’ll be OK. When The Revolution comes, you could work for the Ministry of SWPLism, proclaiming that kale smoothies are good and fast food is ungood.
njguy73
May 10, 2019 at 10:16 PM
S.J., WordPress still has a free option, but it’s littered with WordPress ads. Paying for one of their plans gets rid of the ads and also gets you more customization options.
Hermes
May 10, 2019 at 11:36 PM
This blog is mild in comparison to CH’s diatribe. I can’t possibly find any reason for WordPress to ban LoftB, unless it becomes a repository for extremism against the elite or establishment of either spectrum.
The Manhattan elite might find this blog of good use in terms of urban planning and real estate, because Lions blogs about NYC.
I often comment about the social dynamics in NYC and point to affordable housing and the displacement of NAMs. They genuinely dislike NAMs, especially blacks in their urban space, surreptitiously polite and nonchalant with them, while they completely gentrify areas of the city to their benefit.
The content of CH and his commenters serve no use for the status quo.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 10, 2019 at 11:44 PM
“unless it becomes a repository for extremism against the elite“
Mocking and undermining the sociological fallacy is per se extremism according to our betters and plenty of that goes on here. Of course, mocking the sociological fallacy should be the prime activity of any citizen of merit in today’s America.
Curle
May 11, 2019 at 2:41 PM
On the one hand, wow.
On the other hand, wasn’t this inevitable? Although I’m surprised how quickly the censorship legions are wrapping up dissident right voices. How far behind can this blog be?
By the time we get to the election, we may be down to ABC, NBC, CBS, and the New York Times.
Mike Street Station
May 10, 2019 at 7:58 PM
Even odds Lion is banned by November 2020. Roissy was always going to be the first shoe to drop, and from that point it was just a question of when on the timeline.
Richard
May 11, 2019 at 4:11 AM
Lion being gone by next year suddenly seems like a reasonable prediction.
Mike Street Station
May 11, 2019 at 9:27 AM
Sheesh, I don’t consider Lion to be very controversial at all.
S.J., Esquire
May 11, 2019 at 3:59 PM
Sheesh, I don’t consider Lion to be very controversial at all.
Says the guy commenting under a pseudonym, about a blogger writing under a pseudonym, to another person using a pseudonym.
Richard
May 11, 2019 at 9:36 PM
“By the time we get to the election, we may be down to ABC, NBC, CBS, and the New York Times.”
Throw in The Washington Post, and the national media landscape would be just as it was in 1970….in other words, the “good old days,” according to the left wing mainstream media.
Oswald Spengler
May 11, 2019 at 12:24 PM
It’s another great site dispensing some unpleasant truths. I hope he backed it up somewhere and can get it operational soon.
Someone
May 10, 2019 at 8:07 PM
Is there any official explanation? I don’t see any obvious violation of the terms of service.
Maybe he was banned for general misogyny, or maybe because comments making fun of particular individuals were considered abusive. I am just guessing.
Time to back up our blogs, and look for a company committed to free speech.
Roger
May 10, 2019 at 8:21 PM
Once upon a time he had the best comment section online but the past few years and especially recently it was garbage. Commentators were provocative for the sake of being provocative as everyone tried to be edgier than everyone else. It was a cesspool which he never bothered to moderate and likely contributed to this backlash.
redarmyvodka
May 10, 2019 at 10:25 PM
The CH comments section was actually rather strictly moderated. The messages that got through were allowed.
Though, once you became a “safe” commentator for him you could write almost anything (but not anything) and it would get through.
Shorter posts had a better chance. Longer posts could get through but they often had to be at least somewhat incisive unless you were an inner circle regular poster. I think there may have been a mild autofilter as well, especially perhaps for posters that the blog software wasn’t familiar with. Some posters he would allow to post because they would write anything (like nonsense). But that was limited to one or two of them. I imagine that there was a great volume of nonsense and attack posts that never made it to public view. He embraced a measure of chaos as a part of what seemed to be his understanding of propaganda method. I have to say that he seemed to have an upper level understanding of modern messaging, but I also get that it rubbed both his enemies and some of his friends the wrong way at times. Which, in metaview, was likely part of the overall messaging strategy.
His jargon wasn’t difficult to decipher. It merely required slower reading and a moment of thought. Most of the time it was clever enough, especially when compared to other writing in the same topical sphere on either side. Again, most often the aim was messaging; not formal argument. The argument positions were rightly assumed to be shared by the readership.
David
May 11, 2019 at 2:56 AM
Agreed, redarmyvodka. The chateau circa 2009-2010 was fantastic, with a slew of outstanding poasters. Gorbachev, Tyrone, walawala…
It’s been utter garbage for the last few years now, though. Sad!
driveallnight
May 11, 2019 at 8:42 PM
Part of the problem with this private Internet company monopoly censorship is that they often give you no explanation, and there is no recourse. I myself am permanently banned from PayPal. I once called them and got as far as a real live person, who said “OK, let me see look into it… yeah, I wouldn’t think your account should be closed for that. I’ll forward this on to the appropriate team. You should be hearing from them in the next few days.” A few days later, I got an email saying “we apologize if there was a misunderstanding, but there is no appeal being offered on this decision.” It severely limits my options for buying stuff online and there is absolutely nothing I can do about it.
Hermes
May 10, 2019 at 11:40 PM
What was the official reason you were banned?
fortaleza84
May 11, 2019 at 9:06 AM
Uh, make a new account? That’s a really bizarre story bud.
S.J., Esquire
May 11, 2019 at 4:00 PM
@fortaleza84, I emailed you.
If you make a new account, they ban that one too. When a person creates a new account, their system checks to see if anything about it–name, address, phone number, email address, credit card number, bank account number, social security number, IP address, anything–matches a previous banned account, and if so, they ban it. And also, creating a new account when you’ve been banned is itself a violation of their TOS, so you’ve just provided more ammo for them to use against you.
There are entire forums out there for people this has happened to:
http://www.paypalsucks.com/newforums/
Hermes
May 11, 2019 at 8:53 PM
Why would anyone use PayPal (a left wing entity) as a bartering tool for goods and services deemed “seedy” or inappropriate by the virtue signaling establishment?
This goes to show you the right wing camp aren’t as smart as the leftist, not by a long shot.
Don’t be surprised in the coming years, if this country is able to hold on for its life, that Google will blacklist any right wing website from it searchable function, either of content or commercial, by using sophisticated algorithms to comb and collapse any site of this nature.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 12, 2019 at 11:50 AM
Paypal was founded by Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, at least Peter Thiel is very libertarian and Trump supporter. It seems like even when the founders are right wing the companies themselves take their own shape and become leftist like any other company in the silicon valley.
Hashed
May 12, 2019 at 5:28 PM
wordpress.com is owned by Automattic, a Bay of Pigs (Silcone V-Frisco based) company like many other “IT” companies in the region, which employs 800 employees with executives coming from Yahoo and the most recent one, who donates money to developing nations in sub-sahara Africa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automattic
CH has no calling on their platform.
He could had a chance to stay intact if it was a right leaning company like Oracle. But Larry Elison is a prolish executive with a lavish lifestyle of bedding various women and collecting yachts. He also voted for Donald Trump whom he admires. He has no intellectual interests such as a bloggin’ medium.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 12, 2019 at 11:13 PM
The sites don’t typically give reasons. It makes the banning more scary, leaving people guessing. I don’t see any obvious reason Lion would be banned, judging from what I’ve read here (I’m recent though).
He doesn’t talk about people who aren’t already public figures.
The comments are vetted and much trash no doubt removed.
He doesn’t write long posts himself. He typically links to a MSM article.
The YouTube people often have huge audiences, typically with a lot young people. Their vids typically get hundreds or thousands of comments, often insulting the MSM and conventional politicians. It frightens the powers that be that large numbers of young people are becoming disenchanted with them.
Plus they cannot make themselves anonymous because everyone can see and hear them. In high profile cases, like Sargon and Count Dankula, they lose much of their livelihood when Youtube demonitizes them. They become notorious and become unemployable.
Sargon was also kicked off Patreon on the flimsiest of excuses. Not long after, another service opened, saying they weren’t censorious. He’s with them now. He has a wife and small child to support.
In fact, the less extreme YouTube people (but still firmly anti-crazy left, often making fun of them) are the most dangerous because of their obvious ability to change large numbers of people’s thinking.
A good example is Jordan Peterson, who came to public attention when Ontario was proposing new legislation to make it an offence to not use a person’s preferred pronouns.
He is a popular tenured professor at the University of Toronto. He was sent two warning letters to shut up. He ignored the letters and said publicly on his Youtube platform that he would go to jail rather than endure “compelled speech.” (He had a large Youtube following because for several years he taped all his classes for the students’ convenience).
The University then backed off, realizing that further action would only gain him more followers (he has 2 million Youtube followers). The only recourse was for the MSM to write hit pieces and for big broadcasters to interview him, hoping a good interviewer could rattle him and make him say something notorious.
They failed, with one now legendary case of an English interviewer failing completely and becoming the flustered one.
That reminds me, Americans are far safer than citizens of other English-speaking countries, who have no guarantee comparable to your First Amendment. Clearly, no American state could even consider legislation like Ontario did.
Meanwhile people in England are being sent to jail for offensive tweets. Sargon, Paul Joseph Watson and Count Dankula are all UK citizens.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 2:53 PM
Just to add something about Jordan Peterson who thinks UBI (Universal Basic Income) is a bad idea, because it produces idleness and discourages people from working.
UBI is a godsend for individuals who can’t claw their way into any fruitful long term relationship with a university (better known as tenure).
Therefore, Jordan Peterson isn’t insightful for an academic. He should be canned for good.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 13, 2019 at 12:10 AM
It’s like when I was put on Encorpera’s “do not rehire” list after getting laid off.
Elmer T. Jones
May 10, 2019 at 8:21 PM
You pay for it? We pay for it? Call me a slackjawed dummy. Ah aint know dat.
Ignant
May 10, 2019 at 8:36 PM
This is definitely a high end site with payment quality layout, visuals, design, and support. Most wordpress blogs are shit and unless you’re logged into a wordpress account riddled with ads as well which makes the content almost unreadable.
redarmyvodka
May 10, 2019 at 10:19 PM
People talk about ads as if they’ve never heard of AdblockPlus, Ghostery and NoScript. They block ads, trackers and scripts. I never realized how much of that stuff there was until Firefox recently had a bug that disabled all the extensions. It was such a pain to be force fed video ads before every youtube video or turn at Words with Friends. There’s a small learning curve in the sense that it will also block sites and functions you want to use. But if you fiddle with it and figure it out then it’s well worth the effort.
destructure
May 11, 2019 at 4:24 PM
Just keep making pro biden posts (the AI won’t understand your motivation) and jewish grievance posts. You’ll be fine. But if we do go down, we all go down together.
toomanymice
May 10, 2019 at 8:49 PM
That was inevitable – full-bore WN with a real mean streak. Was once moderately entertaining, but seemed lately to be penned by a number of MAGA-capped basement dwellers.
rabbit55
May 10, 2019 at 8:56 PM
Though even in ban CH will remain politically relevant. Perhaps more so given the fact that his prolific output won’t allow him to be forgotten anytime soon and he is now a martyr of sorts – we all know how banning popular speech usually turns out. Hopefully he will reappear on another platform. In contrast, this comments section will be politically irrelevant as long as it is characterized by people who unironically write sentences that contain phrases like “MAGA capped basement dwellers”. Its out of touch with the broadest conservative movement in the United States to a degree that is painful to witness. Self delude at your own risk.
David
May 11, 2019 at 2:37 AM
Maybe, although I think “Out of sight, out of mind” is a real risk here. I used to follow a bunch of people on Twitter during the 2016 election, but once they were banned I didn’t pursue them over to Gab or wherever else they may have gone. Censorship works.
It’s not even necessary to ban them. I was a regular reader of Lawrence Auster’s blog, but after he died and new content stopped I didn’t visit his site anymore, and that was the end of his active influence on me. I can’t imagine many people who missed Auster in his prime are deep diving into the web now and rediscovering him. Most people only read blogs and consume social media casually, and to be relevant you need to be current.
Richard
May 11, 2019 at 10:35 AM
@Richard Perhaps Auster had a permanent affect on your thinking while he was alive. Deed done.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 7:39 PM
True. I get the perspective on Auster. It’s accurate.
As a matter of argument, I’d offer that it seems that CH had a higher readership than Auster. Which obviously would be in part due to his multi-pronged interests, for both of which he was at the top of the game: allowing for his unique approach to political commentary that I prior offered was (smartly) more propaganda than argument oriented (the masses shy away from long arguments and gravitate toward memes – and the NYT and WaPo are propaganda oriented). I also perceive CH as having had more of an overall impact in his and Auster’s broadly shared topic.
Entropy eventually erases memory, perhaps in full. However, in the near to medium term future, CH may have some staying power. At least to the degree that his material is accessible at all through archives. We will see.
David
May 11, 2019 at 11:29 PM
Yeah,
Auster’s a separate issue: once you’re dead you very rarely have more influence. (Guys like Lovecraft who get more popular posthumously are the extreme exception.) That is simply the way of the world.
One nice thing I did see was that someone said they had actually become a father because of Auster’s advocacy of traditonalism, so at least someone out there is a living memento to the guy, even if he doesn’t know it.
SFG
May 11, 2019 at 11:33 PM
” Perhaps Auster had a permanent affect on your thinking while he was alive.”
I suspect that’s the case for me.
Mike Street Station
May 12, 2019 at 7:35 AM
With #MeToo, gaming (PUA) content and misogynistic blogs are set to be erased from the web-o-sphere and Chateau Heartiste is no exception.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 10, 2019 at 9:04 PM
You are correct that the feminists currently have the whip hand. Amazon stopped carrying some (or possibly all) of Roosh’s books.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 3:05 PM
It’s devastating. CH, please advise. How can we help? New commenter here, occasional lurker. The deplatforming of CH is beyond demoralizing. CH we await your return to the blogosphere!
BrachaBenedicta
May 10, 2019 at 9:17 PM
The only place left is Freerepublic.com
Angel at Watchyourlifeinpictures
May 10, 2019 at 9:32 PM
Self-hosting sites are harder to shut down. The activists have to go after the ISP.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 12:41 AM
I thought WordPress was like a hosting provider.
Lion of the Blogosphere
May 11, 2019 at 8:18 AM
There are two ways to use WordPress. Either you use their servers (and make yourself vulnerable to being kicked off if you offend them) or you use an different server (considerably more expensive) but are safer.
The activists then can only go after the ISP. The WordPress software itself is open source.
WP could stop permitting you upgrades but couldn’t stop you on their own.
There are a lot of ISPs out there. No one had been able to shut down 4chan, for example. Maybe they have their own servers or use offshore ones.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 3:13 PM
I have the same sense. lion’s greatest sin is openly discussing average IQ differences between races, which he doesn’t even write much about anymore. He is actually very soft and skeptical on redpill stuff (or at least comes across that way). Quite frankly if this blog were called to the attention of wordpress authorities they would probably just be confused. I say this because every person I’ve tried directing here found the smorgasbord of topics and lion’s idiosyncrasies confusing and odd. So far no takers.
toomanymice
May 11, 2019 at 7:30 AM
that was supposed to be in reply to jay fink’s comment about lion being to mild to censor
toomanymice
May 11, 2019 at 7:32 AM
And Lion lives in Manhattan which isn’t very convincing from a redpill context.
Had he remained in his forgotten borough like you, then case in point.
By the way, maybe wordpress string pullers are too busy laughing at the guido jokes!
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM
Hopefully they reappear elsewhere.
Rodger Stone
May 10, 2019 at 9:38 PM
I stopped reading him almost two years ago when his focus shifted from Game and the new world of male/female relations to hardcore white nationalism and anti-Semitism.
Even then, he was right about a lot of things, but his style became much more incoherent. I believe I read elsewhere that the original Roissy (who was far more eloquent) turned it over to someone else. That makes sense, and it shows.
370H55V
May 10, 2019 at 9:50 PM
I got the impression that he was deliberately incoherent. He used a lot of jargon and made-up words so that his blog was only intelligible to regular readers.
I suspect that he wanted it that way. He showed no interest in persuading his ideological enemies. He was informative and insightful for those who share his worldview. For that, his blog was terrific.
Roger
May 10, 2019 at 11:18 PM
“He showed no interest in persuading his ideological enemies.”
Why would this matter? I’ve yet to meet a single leftist that has any moral integrity on any issue. Hypocrisy and scumbaggery are their motto. With them, the end justifies the means.
Someone
May 11, 2019 at 8:03 AM
I agree with Someone that there’s no reasoning with leftists because 1) they have no intellectual integrity and 2) their views and opinions weren’t based on reason to start with. Spend time on leftwing sites and you realize just how vile they are.
destructure
May 11, 2019 at 4:45 PM
It’s not really a left or right thing per se, but an American phenomenon that capitalism and greed rule over any sense of rationalism and logic.
Enjoy the sh!tshow while it lasts. Apocalypse is no fun, if doomsday sayers are saying that Donald Trump will be the last president of Meriprolestan. It’s still a long way between now and 2020.
Liberal centers like NYC and the Left Coast will be the last pegs of civilization, if the country decides to crackle.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 11, 2019 at 9:00 PM
“It’s not really a left or right thing per se, but an American phenomenon that capitalism and greed rule over any sense of rationalism and logic.”
There are basically two sides (left vs right) with two groups on each side (the “people” and the billionaire / corporate interests manipulating them). Yes, capitalism and greed are taking precedence over the national interest. That’s why I keep calling democracy a fraud. But the left is still what I said it was.
“Liberal centers like NYC and the Left Coast will be the last pegs of civilization, if the country decides to crackle.”
Neither NYC nor the Left Coast could support a population even a quarter of their current size if the chips hit the fan.
destructure
May 12, 2019 at 5:31 AM
“Neither NYC nor the Left Coast could support a population even a quarter of their current size if the chips hit the fan”
They would not, but the fallen pieces of America will be bandaid as they break into smaller pieces. The liberal centers will deploy proles in law enforcement and rescue operations to mitigate the situation. Furthermore, the elites will ensure authorities enforce draconian measures in certain areas of the country which are off limits to those who don’t belong there.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 12, 2019 at 8:13 PM
I believe I read elsewhere that the original Roissy (who was far more eloquent) turned it over to someone else.
I once spent a morning comparing old posts with new posts, and came away convinced that theory was wrong. The style was too consistent. It is clear, though, that he had aged out of the pick-up market. A few months ago he wrote a post apologizing for not writing as much about game lately, and promised to come up with new material on the subject, but he never really followed through. I don’t think he’s hitting the clubs anymore.
Richard
May 11, 2019 at 10:49 AM
Maybe I’m in the minority but I found his blog more interesting since it drifted away from game. I didn’t agree with all his opinions but I still don’t like that he was censored.
Jay Fink
May 11, 2019 at 4:00 PM
My gut feeling is this blog will be considered too mild to shut down. I hope I’m right…this is the place I post where I feel most at home.
Jay Fink
May 10, 2019 at 10:57 PM
How do you know he was banned and didn’t just take it down or something else?
CMC
May 10, 2019 at 11:09 PM
Because if you enter the old URL you get a statement saying that the site has been removed. Try it.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 3:39 PM
Unz has his own site. Some people say he using parts of WordPress.
There’s two ways to use WordPress: self hosting and using their site. The self-hosting sites would be harder to shut down. Activists would have to go after their ISPs. It had happened, but not often. Yet.
They’re very determined, the censors. They’ve got some kind of control over Mastercard, affecting anyone relying on it for contributions.
Blazing Cat Fur uses WordPress but he’s self-hosting. He used to be on Google’s Blogspot, until they put a warning page. If you entered the URL you got a sinister statement that some people found the site offensive. You could proceed at your own risk.
Within 24 hours, he had everything transferred to a server in the US, and running WordPress.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 12:07 AM
Yet another victim of PC oppression. I would like to say, this is why Bob Whitaker put so much time in creating memes that were LEGAL everywhere on earth and could generally get by censors (at least for a while – you might have to change them over time).
This is a serious game fellas, for all the power in the world. So, of course the enemy is going to play rough. We probably haven’t seen anything yet.
RobertWhite2100
May 11, 2019 at 1:02 AM
So what happens now? I’ll check this place out, but phuck, that was the mainstay since the red pill nose dived.
G-Elliot's-Second-Asshole
May 11, 2019 at 3:50 AM
Red Piller, Roosh V just came out of the wood work from a hiatus so it seems. Sometimes, he speaks with a lisp, most probably coming from a free-space in one of his front teeth. That’s what it sounded like, when he was asked about the world recently, and he said “oh, it’s is a clown show”.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 11, 2019 at 2:50 PM
Greg Elliot or Greg Idiot as I prefer was one of the worst commentators at CH. The guy spammed the comment section relentlessly always trying to get the last word in with his drivel to satisfy his ego. He’s probably one of the main reasons the site is now gone and I’m glad others recognize his worthlessness hence the parody account/name.
redarmyvodka
May 11, 2019 at 5:14 PM
A lot of immature commenters just want to vent. Unfortunately, that causes problems, which isn’t fair since the Left gets to do it, but it is what it is.
I wonder how much of the pro-White movement was derailed in the past by people who wanted to pound their chest above all. They put the actual cause second.
RobertWhite2100
May 12, 2019 at 1:43 AM
Ron Unz told it. It was very apocalyptic saying its over for the alt-right because Sillicon Valley has decided .
Bruno
May 11, 2019 at 3:51 AM
I’m sick of you people saying he had it coming. This is censorship of a vouce of dissent, and nothing less than an outrage. He told uncomfortable truths while educating a generation of men and providing a place for us to exchange ideas, ni matter what the comment “food fight” looked like. If we don’t protest shit like that soon there will be no alternative though/speech left. This hits home for me and probably thousands of men. I hope if he is listening/reading he is already planning his next move. he was smart and a wise leader for a movement that was needed.
pupton1974
May 11, 2019 at 3:56 AM
There’s nowhere to protest. A group of like-minded people could send a letter to WordPress. They’d toss it in the garbage. You’d be lucky to get reply, although they undoubtedly have canned replies for such cases.
YouTube calmly offends thousands or hundreds of thousands of people with their activities but they don’t care.
This is how bad it is: Google posted disappointing earnings this quarter, citing losses at YouTube, that they own.
Demonetization hits YouTube too, as they get a cut of advertisers’ funds. Kicking off people with large followings loses them money too.
Another popular feature, superchats, with people paying to have their comment read aloud and YouTube taking a cut has also suffered because forbidding superchats is a popular way to discipline wayward YouTubers. More money lost.
It’s become so bad that it’s actually hitting Google’s bottom line. Will they change? Nope.
It seemed to start with Trump’s election. There appears to be an unofficial agreement that these companies may have to suffer temporarily to stop Trump and his supporters.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 8:06 PM
You may have noticed a certain phenomenon. When the left gets angry, they riot and destroy things.
Conservative people don’t seem to like rioting or destroying property. It has to do with them being a different personality type. I don’t mean that conservative are cowardly but they would require more to take action.
How often has Antifa taken to the streets (exclude Europe where it started some years ago). In the US alone there have been many cases. The non-alt-right conservatives, pretty much none. True alt right had Charlottesville.
The media won’t shut up about Charlottesville but they say absolutely nothing about Antifa.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 8:24 PM
You forgot about Robert Lindsay who had the 8th most viewed blog on the same platform and was kicked out last year.
Btw, It’s worrying for the guy who looked to be in a fragile fiancial situation (and I fear suividal-like mental instability because of health issues, isolation and growing older for’someone who used to be good looking and taking advantage of it, it’s much worse for an ex-poser without money to be clever I guess) .
https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com
Bruno
May 11, 2019 at 4:01 AM
RL’s most offensive trope is extortion with blogging. He would ban any frequent commenter who didn’t pay him, and thus he had their commenting privileges revoked.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 11, 2019 at 10:37 AM
I can’t believe Lindsay’s blog was gotten away by its host.
He was on the left and anti-Trumpism had become the only one leitmotif of his blog.
I wonder how came.
Gg
May 11, 2019 at 2:02 PM
I agree that his blog totally went downhill. Speculating a bit, but I suspect a big part of the problem was a recent lack of success with women — my sense is that it’s just really difficult to score young hotties if you are a guy in your 50s with a middle class job. Especially in a world where Tinder makes it extremely easy for horny women to find a guy who is taller, richer, younger, and better looking than you.
I used to check out his blog from time to time and it seemed his game reports got less and less frequent and the whole blog degenerated into incesent racism and anti-Semitism.
That said, the real issue here is that there is a very real slippery slope problem.
fortaleza84
May 11, 2019 at 4:02 AM
Lion, I stopped by there yesterday out of curiosity. His last post was about how international companies use different ads in different countries to drive left agendas as far as, it would seem, the local public tolerates or to local circumstances, complete with some damning ad pictures.
This could be up there with INFOWARS starting to be banned when it claimed Twitter etc. were preparing to ban people.
Robert
May 11, 2019 at 4:39 AM
FYI Lion, also his https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.wordpress.com/ is still up, and for those who want to see how he was attacking recent very specific (as opposed to general complaints that don’t get censored) propaganda manipulation and censorship in last few days see: https://web.archive.org/web/20190510072818/https://heartiste.wordpress.com/ (NB: Naughty language, as we libertarians say).
That they go after paid sites is strange. I know they would shut down unpaid blogs increasingly arbitrarily, but this is a first as far as I know…watch out,
Robert
May 11, 2019 at 4:50 AM
He seems obsessed with young girls. Ostensibly he’s a critic, but there’s something about all the photos and the short posts that me think otherwise.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 3:52 PM
Unz would take him in.
curri
May 11, 2019 at 5:26 AM
What happens when Unz’s hosting service kicks him out? When his domain registrar removes his domain name? When Google blocks his site from search results? When ISPs block users from visiting his site?
Lion of the Blogosphere
May 11, 2019 at 8:22 AM
Those are reasonable concerns, but consider the fact that the Daily Stormer is up and running, apparently with a Chinese host.
fortaleza84
May 11, 2019 at 9:14 AM
“the Daily Stormer is up and running, apparently with a Chinese host.”
Rather ironic considering that China doesn’t allow its own citizens access to most of the internet.
Lion of the Blogosphere
May 11, 2019 at 10:00 AM
Lion that is exactly what Unz implied in his letter to the alt right. I was a bit put off by the cold tone of the letter when I think how much it matters – both for receivers like me and much more immediately for content producers when they are famous – but given all what Unz has done for the alt-right, it’s more about not being emotional and delusional, than indifference about the fate of the alt right.
It’s sad there is no political will to defend the alt right from this attack. The only strategy would be to break down the media giants. If Trump could be convinced those media are really bad for him, maybe he would do something. But the legislative branch is bought by them . Internet free speech is becoming to the right what gun circulation is to the left.
Bruno
May 11, 2019 at 9:29 AM
I have long suspected that Unz has his own servers or uses ones that won’t kick him off. He’s too smart to have ignored that.
4chan is still running.
Even being blocked by Google would have no immediate effect. His followers are kind of a group, they know where to find him.
Is he even a Trump supporter? He seems mainly notorious for virulent anti-Semitism. That can be ignored. But Trump has to go.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 8:39 PM
Took longer than I thought. What’s the official excuse?
JayMan
May 11, 2019 at 9:14 AM
Noticed Chateau Heartiste is gone. When will WordPress be posting which part of the Terms of Service were violated and the name of the person who made the determination?
Under the DRADIS
May 11, 2019 at 12:17 PM
Never, if it suits them. You blog readers are so naive. Those of us following YouTube have see many takedowns. Sometimes they’ll give a reason, sometimes not.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 8:42 PM
When have they ever given a satisfactory response? Never.
The excuses are always bullshit, “violating community standards” which are violated a thousand other ways, often in content that whatever censor-platform it is explicitly endorses (via recommendations, blue checkmarks, monetization, and other such special club privileges).
Panther of the Blogocube
May 15, 2019 at 10:31 PM
The old PUA content of Roissy/Heartiste was gold and it helped my personal life immensely.
Though they did not originate with Roissy, concepts and tactics like rapid physical escalation (kino), refusing to be friendzoned, never put the pussy on a pedestal, and negging are effective and field-proven in my own romantic exploits. I wonder if I might be incel to this day if it weren’t for Roissy.
In the last decade there’s been no evolution in PUA tactics, though, and Roissy’s been running on fumes for a long time, though he is a first-rate writer stylistically. He’s been repeating himself for years now.
His comments section has been worthless for a long time as well, mostly a bunch of petty bickering between long-time cranks.
NWS4EVR
May 11, 2019 at 12:22 PM
As I moved from left to right I have stayed a free speech absolutist. The concept of silencing dissident voices has always been disgusting to me. I was a leftist because during the Bush years, when I became politically conscious, the liberals promoted free speech. One thing that has shocked me, absolutely floored me really, was how many of my real life friends who defended free speech in the past are all for attacking free speech after Donald Trump.
I remember when I found Roissy’s blog in 2010. Back then his blog was on fire and it broke a lot of new ground in a worlds full of clown PUAs, like mystery, and blue pill advice that never worked (be a nice person and girls will come, be her friend first, etc). Thinking about it now Roissy was like the Aristotle of Game. He pointed out a lot of things that were false in conventual dating advice, and he got some things right, but he still got most things wrong. For example he never quite understood how important lifting and looks were.
Observant Hebrew
May 11, 2019 at 1:07 PM
If you don’t fall to the drive to attack what differs from you, you are psychologically brave.
Gg
May 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM
“One thing that has shocked me, absolutely floored me really, was how many of my real life friends who defended free speech in the past are all for attacking free speech after Donald Trump.”
The left’s abandonment of free speech didn’t happen suddenly. It’s been moving in that direction for at least twenty years or so. But I think Citizens United was the staw that broke the camels back. That was a decision based on First Amendment grounds and after that, the left was over the First Amendment. Hillary’s first campaign promise was a constitutional amendment to overwrite the First.
Mike Street Station
May 12, 2019 at 8:04 AM
It was a take down by Jews, a group that has enjoyed warm and unqualified support on this blog for years now.
Lew
May 11, 2019 at 1:34 PM
How did the blog go downhill? Only if you have delicate boomer sensibilities.
CH has become one of the most important voices of our time. His recent content and the timing of this banning is very interesting.
Looch El Sicario
May 11, 2019 at 2:02 PM
Roissy used to brag about planting his flag all around the world, praised Black guys who were “alpha,” and deleted a post where commenters criticized Jews and Israel. Around that time a commenter said, “You need to decide if this blog is going to be about Game or White Nationalism.”
Vince
May 11, 2019 at 2:23 PM
There was an old post where he wrote about having sex with a black woman. Years later, somebody referred to this and the reply was that it had been somebody else. It’s the only public admission I’m aware that the blog was run by more than one person. Unless he was lying…
IHTG
May 11, 2019 at 3:28 PM
That commenter was probably me. Because you are either fully aware of the reality of Clown World or you are a fence sitter.
CH as a writer, is worlds above the competition in both the PUA / Men’s Rights as well as the identitarian (I disagree with the term ‘WN’) movement as well.
The blog is a major loss, but NOT unexpected. In fact, I am surprised it took this long. If he didn’t have a plan to move hosts then he ain’t too bright because regular commenters have pointed our for years he had a target on his back.
As for the various comments here about the ‘content’ of the comments section I think I will just hold my tongue on that point. Clearly the ‘audience’ here is very different and has a comfort bubble they do not wish to be popped, not unlike the far left.
Jay in DC
May 11, 2019 at 8:22 PM
It’s the non-anti-semitic alt-right blog. On something as huge as the Internet they’ve got something for every sub-sub-flavor.
Of course, it remains to be seen whether Lion’s ancestry will protect him, as the harcore antisemites claim.
SFG
May 11, 2019 at 11:41 PM
Being gay didn’t protect Milo.
Lion of the Blogosphere
May 12, 2019 at 7:55 AM
Excellent point. I’m crossing my fingers there’s a difference.
SFG
May 12, 2019 at 12:27 PM
CH’s transition from game to politics was sparked by multiple factors but a major one has to be the fact we’re simply living in a much more political age. Not long ago when I posted my Trump is winning comment which CH elevated to a blog post highlighting my ideas for all to see under his banner your response was something along the lines of “ain’t nobody reading that” and its length was evidence that I was “sperging”. Many shared your views and responded negatively as well. At some point the purpose of blogging/commenting had shifted there from information, ideas, and knowledge toward entertainment, outrage, and ego stroking.
CH’s recent batch of commentators were not supporters of free speech, fresh ideas, or even fair hearings. They mostly circle jerked each other while engaging in endless despair porn and expressing ideas that are not just way out of the mainstream they’re out of the mainstream in dissident circles as well. When somebody like myself popped YOUR bubble you were mostly triggered. It was only a matter of time until the hammer came down it’s just unfortunate a good blogger had to pay the price.
redarmyvodka
May 13, 2019 at 5:07 AM
Unbelievable. Really sad to see that.
Two in the Bush
May 11, 2019 at 3:07 PM
I will miss Captain Obvious
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Owen O'Hara
May 11, 2019 at 5:55 PM
I wont.
But I will miss da GBFM, lozzlozzzzl. May he continue to butthex goldman-sachs til he ascends to valhalla.
driveallnight
May 11, 2019 at 9:06 PM
One of his cracks did actually get me laid once. Or was actually a contributing factor.
SFG
May 11, 2019 at 11:40 PM
Honest truth: I never woulda got maryk’s knickers off without roissy.
driveallnight
May 12, 2019 at 2:15 PM
Jay in DC, Ironsides, PA, lots of good commenters there. I work in a us government facility and they blocked him and AE about 4 months ago…..I commented on it at the time…for me that was a clue about his potential global blacklisting.
How he didnt get an external web host and back his material up is unbelievably foolish. He could have every post in Word documents somewhere, who knows. I copied several to share with my kids when they get older, because I knew his site would probably.be gone one day.
Would it be illegal/unethical to post those on my own site for those who want to see them as a memorial?
pupton1974
May 12, 2019 at 1:43 AM
No. CH wouldn’t care if you reposted his content. He did everything for free and never asked for money on his blog. He is just like jesus. He didn’t even flinch when PayPal kicked him off. My only regret is not giving him more money while I had a chance.
bigjohn33
May 12, 2019 at 3:43 PM
The Chateau was the best website on internet, I never comment and am usually an anonymous lurker but this is devastating. I would honestly be happy to pay $100 bucks a month to read CH. I’ve even tried donating but PayPal blocked him. There has to be a way to get this content past the commie censorship apparatchiks, we’re the f are the Koch brothers et all with their conservative $$$?
DaSaxonMagyar
May 11, 2019 at 7:25 PM
The Koch brothers seem to have zero interest in the Internet as a whole. Maybe they’re too old to see how important it is. I’m just guessing, but it’s true they’re MIA.
Frau Katze
May 11, 2019 at 9:07 PM
The Koch brothers are nose-holders. Meaning they hold their noses dealing with the stinky conservatives because conservatives give them lower taxes.
Lion of the Blogosphere
May 11, 2019 at 9:09 PM
The Koch Bros are libertarians.
David Koch gives money to left wing organizations like Lincoln Center that employs NAMs and hosts NAM performers which would Bill De Blasio happy, despite supporting mostly Republican candidates.
That’s not what stinky cuckservatives believe in!
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 11, 2019 at 10:33 PM
The Koch brothers have switched sides. They’re main focus is open borders and will support any Democrat who will get them to that goal. This reflects a larger switch in “libertarian” thought that their only main goal is open borders and will partner with leftists to support it. Nick Gillespie, and editor at Reason, recently ran an editorial suggesting that libertarians and the left ally to support open borders.
So the Koch Brothers will probably be supporting the Dem nominee next year.
Mike Street Station
May 12, 2019 at 8:16 AM
David Koch lives on the Upper East Side in Manhattan.
The Upper East Side, despite being very very White in terms of tenants, these people employ black nannies to overlook their kids.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 12, 2019 at 9:41 AM
The nannies are nearly always Afro-Caribbean black, if they are black.
Lion of the Blogosphere
May 12, 2019 at 10:55 AM
I donated $20 to him via Paypal about 1.5 years ago because he responded to an inquiry where I said I would donate if he helped me out. He did. He titled his post “The beta’s lament.” His advice worked, by the way.
pupton1974
May 12, 2019 at 1:47 AM
Pman’s decision to make MPC a private forum is looking pretty good right now.
driveallnight
May 11, 2019 at 8:54 PM
“Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one.” Not to the end-users of said press.
Anthony
May 11, 2019 at 9:25 PM
This is an oddly personal reaction for me. I remember, as does everyone here, how the blog veered hard into (quite nasty) antisemitism from game, and that was one of the reasons I quit going there regularly. (With no game advice the thing got more and more useless practically as well.)
And I did go there regularly, about 10 years ago up until maybe 3 or 4? That and half sigma got me through a rather nasty job. So it getting shut down is another piece of my early adulthood gone. Which is the way of the world, of course.
Don’t look needy, work out, don’t pedestalize women, don’t agree with them too much–I got quite a few useful tidbits out of that site, as well as quite a few lays, to be honest. I once actually did get a girl over with ‘bring the movies’. And it was enlightening, too, to realize how many things I was doing to avoid getting in trouble were actually things the PUAs, with their superior knowledge of human interaction, were doing the opposite of. Of course, I couldn’t copy them directly, but it was useful to realize they were taking an opposing strategy with regard to risk, and to at least move mildly in that direction myself.
It’s entirely possible that he got too old for the ‘game’ and decided to switch to white nationalism–makes as much sense as anything else and would fit his changing audience. Past a certain age you are not pulling down the hotties no matter what you do unless you are a billionaire.
I distinctly remember the first ‘this is how america ends’ pic was the girl taking the selfie at the holocaust memorial, so he probably wasn’t antisemitic to start with. My guess is he figured, if that’s what the 4chan audience wants, that’s what he’s going to give them. I also remember his number of comments declining as he went more WN, with quite a few people going ‘what is this crap, I want to hear about game’.
I guess he did become a flaming antisemite at the end…but it’s hard to hate a guy too much when he helped you get laid.
SFG
May 11, 2019 at 11:52 PM
I do regret the turn to antisemitism and white nationalism that helped destroy the influence of that blog. Years ago, I first found it due to a link on Instapundit, when it was a game blog with right leaning sensibilities. Of course, Instapundit would never link to the WN/anti jew version that the site devolved into. But for a long time it was an influential blog that was really an important component of the right leaning blogosphere. Of course, all good things and all that… going down the WN/ant-semitic rathole destroyed the utility of that site. But it did have a good run.
Mike Street Station
May 12, 2019 at 8:26 AM
From what I’ve read so far, I would say it’s very likely he is currently in a rage, thinking that Jews were somehow behind it.
I once did a co-blogging stint with another guy. He isn’t anti-Semitic, he dislikes Islam. Apparently that’s stronger in Australia than North America. (They had the Cronulla riots in 2005).
Anyway, one day Google took his site down. He was furious (I’ve never met him in person but I could tell from his writing).
But he seems to have found a way to blog without people complaining. Take note, CH fans.
He set up a blog on Tumblr. Tumblr gives you an option to make your blog unsearchable by search engines, including Google. He already had an audience. He has lasted several years now in this fashion. Way longer than before.
That simple: make it impossible for Google to find it. The snoopers don’t come around.
Frau Katze
May 12, 2019 at 6:38 PM
One further note on using Tumblr
They effectively have no native commenting software. But you can install Disqus on your Tumblr blog.
Frau Katze
May 12, 2019 at 6:57 PM
Without Roissy and Styles, millions of men would still be clueless, dateless wonders! I say this in all seriousness wo/sarcasm.
When did CNN ever help or inform an average joe/AFC?
Fakeemail
May 12, 2019 at 1:38 AM
You’re 100% correct. CNN has no interest in helping guys find a date.
Frau Katze
May 12, 2019 at 6:40 PM
There are dating services that are run by millennial women who match men with a multiple number of women based on their preferences. The service isn’t cheap, but gaming isn’t either with the time and money invested. The advice coming from these men (who could be creepy and low status) might be helpful, but…
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 12, 2019 at 7:41 PM
CH regularly mentioned that he made backups of the website in posts and comments as he was apparently close to being kicked off during the 2015-2016 election cycle. He is still on GAB and I wouldn’t be surprised if he came back with a different hosting method.
chris
May 12, 2019 at 8:43 AM
I agree it is possible that he was banned for non PC content —which is the point I take lion to be making when using the word, that a banning for content is not contradicted or excluded by the statements, terms of service and user guidelines.
I’m just not convinced that that is the only possible explanation.
Basically I think WordPress left themselves —or tried to leave themselves, some wiggle room so that we can’t be absolutely sure the cause of the site not being there until and unless more info comes out.
But sure, I’d say the smart money’s on banning for content/censoring.
CMC
May 12, 2019 at 9:00 AM
Pardon, that should be a reply to Frau Katze May 11, 2019 at EDT pm
CMC
May 12, 2019 at 9:02 AM
You fans are still in denial. If you want the guy back, find a way a communicate (Gab?). Then tell him about the Tumblr thing.
I just entered a comment on instructions for doing so. It’s worked for my friend. He had two Blogspot blogs taken down but has lasted several years on unsearchable Tumblr.
Frau Katze
May 12, 2019 at 6:48 PM
You’re mistaking making a website ‘unsearchable’ with it being invisible and having no cultural impact. CH wasn’t censored because it was searchable. You can easily ‘disallow’ Google indexing of your site, whether via robots.txt or having a simple human input required to access the real content.
The issue is that any site with enough cultural impact to get noticed is now bannable. You can write away to your hearts content in your own password-protected LiveJournal accessible to only 5 people. But as soon as someone notices your site, whether via metrics or being ‘reported’, you will get censored. Making yourself unsearchable, unfindable, and unreadable except with great difficulty will only prove your ‘guilt.’
Panther of the Blogocube
May 16, 2019 at 7:24 AM
@Panther You cannot make your blog invisible to Google if you are using WordPress as Lion is doing, using WordPress servers. Maybe you could if self-hosting, I honestly don’t know.
I do know you can do it with Tumblr, without the considerable hassle and expense of being self-hosting.
My friend has a lot more than five readers. The way he gets them involves the Disqus commenting system. You can follow another Disqus user and be notified of all sites using Disqus that they visit.
A large community with similar politics exists. It arose because many big American blogs use Disqus. They know each other in an online sense, often greeting each other.
(He monitors comments, using a trusted US-based individual to cover the time zone difference)
I should note that this community is not anti-Semitic. They are smart enough to know that Jews don’t run the world.
Yet they are not falling for the MSM line about how peaceful and accommodating Islam is. That Islam is trying to spread to the West is no secret. President Erdogan of Turkey for one has said so openly. There are sites like MEMRI that translate articles from Arabic that contradict the western MSM. Muslims do run many countries. That’s not a secret. Sharia is the law of the land in many Muslim countries.
Come to think about it, anti-Semites are so paranoid and irrational that a friendly Disqus community of them may not exist. It may be impossible due to their paranoia.
Frau Katze
May 16, 2019 at 10:15 AM
“I do know you can do it with Tumblr, without the considerable hassle and expense of being self-hosting. ”
Self-hosting is less expensive, although you’re correct it’s more of a hassle. Most hosting providers will install WordPress with a single click, because it’s extremely common software. Customizing beyond that might require effort and technical expertise, but it’s definitely not necessary for a simple blog like Lion’s, CH, or most use cases. Even Unz is a relatively straightforward site for WordPress.
Disqus is not really an option long term either. Disqus was used by Roosh’s “Return of Kings” website, but somewhere along the line they took action and banned him. If you get big enough to notice, and you are the “wrong kind” of person, they will ban you. Simple as that.
Panther of the Blogocube
May 16, 2019 at 11:29 PM
@Panther Banned from Disqus? Wow! My friend’s readers make pretty derogatory comments. That’s incredible. He doesn’t hesitate to contact Disqus or Tumblr if there are problems either.
I hate to think of what Roosh’s readers must have being writing.
Frau Katze
May 17, 2019 at 10:41 AM
O/t – For Lion and any guido-oriented LoftB reader just for serious laughs.
Every wonder why IAs are underrepresented in the SWPL elite camp?
https://pix11.com/2019/05/07/phony-bidding-war-costs-brooklyn-apartment-buyer-thousands/
A word of wisdom is to stay away from a person with an Italian surname who brand themselves as a SWPL.
Guidos are low class even as SWPLs.
I just saw this on the news. A real estate agent who lives in Park Slope, Brooklyn rips off an Eastern Asiatic lady who overpaid for a pad in his pricey neighborhood when she shouldn’t. He has a surname of Giambalvo and was seen laughing hard with words on his text message, being celebratory that one of his clients overpaid for an apartment two years ago. He orchestrated fake buyers/bidders to hike up the selling price. The buyer later asked him if this was true, and he said yes, and was shocked that she is asking about it now.
Anyway, to have a prolish TV network like WB11 to investigate a prolish gentleman is fun n games.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 12, 2019 at 10:00 AM
I never got why all the hate for Italians around here. They were usually the least antisemitic immigrant group in the last century, tended to protect their Jewish population in WW2 despite being fascists, and if the ancestry guys are right, all the (Ashkenazi) Jewish people here are up to a third Italian.
SFG
May 12, 2019 at 12:30 PM
Some of Lion’s commenters made a point that working class and lower middle class people have a hard time assimilating upper middle class norms, let alone those of the truly elite. Much of it has to do with the way they were brought up and some of it has to do with their lower IQs.
Italian Americans are mostly descended from manual laborers/the peasant class in Southern Italy, better known as the “terrone”.
You’re comparing them to the Jews who have a strong cultural tradition of learning, and being part of the professional class, and a lack thereof, when it comes to working with their hands.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 12, 2019 at 3:12 PM
I am so disappointed. This is an attack on our Constitutional rights. There will come a day when people won’t stand for this anymore. Sad day for American freedom.
Richard
May 12, 2019 at 11:21 AM
Making inappropriate language and sexual innuendos to women at the workplace is definitely not constitutional. CH is banned, because he’s enabler of such behavior.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 12, 2019 at 11:54 AM
Don’t make me laugh now! The whole entertainment industry is an enabler of much worse behaviour.
Yakov
May 12, 2019 at 12:30 PM
I’m not laughing.
It’s just not “Kosher” to those who hold the most wealth and power in America.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 12, 2019 at 3:02 PM
Multi-bil corporations are in their best interest to appear “virtuous” or “righteous”, so the general public can perceive them as trustworthy, ethical and reliable, which would in turn make them profitable.
Look at ebay, who used to own PayPal but still use it for auction payments. Anyone caught listing inappropriate/offensive items on ebay for sale will have those listings taken down:
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/offensive-material-policy?id=4324
They have guidelines. Anyone selling “Star of Davids” will have those items taken off, but other Nazi paraphernalia like stamps and currency are allowed for auction.
Ok, what, who's this again?
May 12, 2019 at 6:36 PM
For the record I didn’t write this, and I’m the Richard who’s been commenting regularly on this blog for several years using the same name and email address throughout.
And Doppelganger Richard is wrong. The American people will totally stand for this, because most of them will never be directly affected and can easily adapt by keeping silent about their beliefs in unwelcome circumstances. Probably everyone commenting here has already been doing that, in various ways. Things will change only if elites use their influence to make them change, and the only chance of that happening is if censorship is perceived to damage Republican political opportunities. The GOP, however, is divided, with a lot of officeholders and columnists thinking censorship helps them by silencing anti-establishment voices.
Richard
May 12, 2019 at 11:12 PM
I agree that the two richards have different emails and different IP addresses.
Lion of the Blogosphere
May 12, 2019 at 11:14 PM
Chateau Heartiste was (and hopefully still will be) a website of cultural significance and it is an act of vandalism on the part of the administrators of WordPress to take it down without at least preserving the content in one form or another. Its a bit like the burning of that library in antiquity I’ve heard about. There ought to be a recognition of websites of cultural significance just as some films and songs are given that designation.
martin2
May 12, 2019 at 11:34 AM
https://gab.com/Heartiste
Roissy/Heartiste hasn’t posted anything on Gab since Thursday, May 9…the day before Chateau Heartiste was shut down. He’s probably been too busy figuring out his next move after WordPress.
Oswald Spengler
May 12, 2019 at 12:19 PM
He could’ve raised a ton of money now (assuming he had a crowd-sourcing option available).
Vince
May 12, 2019 at 4:47 PM
I wonder what the next step will be? It all started with removing comments sections. Now TPTB is prohibiting books/blogs/youtube. What will the next step be? Assassinations and extrajudicial executions? This is what Central and South America is famous for. The country is slowly becoming similar to it. Simple things like sending and receiving mail, sending and receiving packages, purchasing BHA items at the store becomes a problem now because of the theft, which is in turn due to immigration from weird places.
My 2¢
May 12, 2019 at 5:16 PM
Well, we’re already at the point that expressing the wrong political views publicly in most venues can ruin your life. The SJW busybody cadres act as thought police, dox offenders and render them unemployable. Today, the elite uses the threat of economic destruction to make most dissenters toe the line. The Rubicon that hasn’t been crossed yet…thus far, the powers that be haven’t set up actual concentration camps for the punishment and re-education of political offenders.
Oswald Spengler
May 12, 2019 at 10:12 PM
I think Roissy’s comment section degenerated for ego related reasons. If you were one of his fanboys you could pretty much say anything you wanted no matter how awful it might be. I once made a mild criticism of his Game theories. There is a website called Stripperweb where strippers spend a lot of time talking about tactics to make money in strip clubs. Many of the strippers there try to claim looks aren’t that important and if you know what to do you can still make tons of money as a stripper. As someone who used to live next door to a strip club and spent hours drinking there, this contradicted what I saw with my own eyes. I don’t deny the validity of Game tactics in general but I think its advocates sometimes exaggerate its usefulness and that looks are still important. I made a comparison between unsuccessful strippers at the strip club and unsuccessful pua types at the the night club in his comment section. He then reproduced my comment and did a whole blog post attacking it. When I tried to respond in the comment section I found out I had been blocked from commenting and was never able to comment there again. This is the only place where I have ever been blocked from commenting. I showed my friends what I said and they all thought my criticism was pretty mild. I did agree with a lot of what he said in general, though, and I thought he was a good writer. His Game theories could be distilled into a good book, much the same way Roosh did.
Mark G.
May 12, 2019 at 5:25 PM
I believe he isn’t what he purports himself to be. He’s smart and a good writer but his response to your comment is very telling. You struck a nerve (aka the truth) and he couldn’t simply let his opinions stand on their own. He needed to counter you and duct tape your mouth. Someone else said he probably stopped getting laid or it became much more difficult for him, I would agree.
Guest
May 12, 2019 at 10:09 PM
He would say looks matter, but that they don’t count for a lot. In other words, precisely what women claim. There was a commenter on his site named PA who insisted that game would only benefit 10% of the population. Appearance is one of the main filtering mechanisms. If you’ve met an attractiveness threshold, then knowing how to talk to women is enormously beneficial.
Vince
May 13, 2019 at 2:40 PM
The irony is that you dream of Mars colonization and self-driving cars. Instead, you get a failing country with good old human-operated censorship.
My 2¢
May 12, 2019 at 7:04 PM
I think that Mars colonization is very unlikely, but it would be pretty cool if it happened.
Lion of the Blogosphere
May 12, 2019 at 7:08 PM
Totally agree. Mars will never be colonized. Antarctica would way, way easier and cheaper.
Frau Katze
May 12, 2019 at 8:04 PM
If there’s a future manned Mars mission, chances are, the crew will be Chinese.
Oswald Spengler
May 12, 2019 at 10:15 PM
I’ve never been impressed with the idea of using jedi mind tricks to manipulate one’s way into another person’s drawers. But there are certain concepts and behaviors that one is at a disadvantage if they don’t know. Not only at a disadvantage with the opposite sex but against manipulative people from their own sex as well. This is particularly true for decent people. And a lot of it has to do with confidence and self-esteem. But I don’t think people should try to feign confidence, manipulate others or run up the score. Instead, they should do the hard work to be a worthy person because water seeks its own level.
I’ve known a number of womanizers over the years. And I can’t think of any who ended up happily married with children. They were all either still single, divorced or trapped in a miserable marriage. I’m not just talking about men, either. I dated a couple of skanks who ended up that way, too. There’s no ‘happily ever after’ for people who’ve made a career of hopping from bed to bed. It’s the people who don’t do that who live happily ever after.
destructure
May 12, 2019 at 8:02 PM
“I’ve never been impressed with the idea of using jedi mind tricks to manipulate one’s way into another person’s drawers.”
Jedi mind tricks are great if you want to sneak some ‘droids into Mos Eisley Spaceport!
Lion of the Blogosphere
May 12, 2019 at 8:38 PM
“These aren’t the beta tells you’re looking for.”
Oswald Spengler
May 12, 2019 at 10:19 PM
Manipulation is part of human behavior, everyone does it to some extent.
Game is simply the act of mimicking the behaviors of men with a genuine abundance of options. I would say in most cases it’s rather benign. Most men simply use it as a little push to get them outside of their comfort zone. The mask eventually drops anyway because women are designed to sniff these things out and you get comfortable/complacent.
Guest
May 12, 2019 at 10:25 PM
Are these pickup artists trying to help you find a potential wife?
Or are trying to help heterosexual men have even a fraction of the sex homosexual men can get?
(Not all gays I’m sure, but the descriptions in Randy Shilts book on AIDS, “And the Band Played On” were sometimes unbelievable. The early medical doctors working in the area were stunned too. 1000 partners a year?)
Frau Katze
May 13, 2019 at 1:18 AM
frau katze, no on has ever been able to explain the fundamental contradiction of the manosphere to me: decrying the decline of civilization under gynocentrism and female promiscuity, all the while promoting would be techniques to encourage female promiscuity.
My sense is the red pill started with its heart in the right place: present yourself in the best light, physically, that you feasibly can; accept their are genuine differences between the genders; don’t let other people kick you around; if you feel afraid or intimidated, don’t let it show. This is good advice for virtually all human interaction. But somewhere along the line it turned into something snarling and ugly.
toomanymice
May 13, 2019 at 11:56 AM
“frau katze, no on has ever been able to explain the fundamental contradiction of the manosphere to me: decrying the decline of civilization under gynocentrism and female promiscuity, all the while promoting would be techniques to encourage female promiscuity.”
Hahah, very clever. It reminds me of something Mort Sahl (remember him?) once said. “Modern women alternately bemoan the lack of virility in men and stamp it out whenever they find it.”
“Or are trying to help heterosexual men have even a fraction of the sex homosexual men can get? ”
I think that the frequency of gay sex is somewhat fake news. Think of it logically:they have a very small dating pool, and most of them hate the goods. (“The odds are good but the goods are odd.”)
“He opened his mouth and a purse fell out.”
As far as game is concerned, some of it made sense. Don’t be a needy bitch, rigorously observe boundaries, if she’s batshit, move on. Be very careful who you end up with. Avoid borderlines; they will ruin your life and turn you into a shell of a man. No problem with any of that.
The rest of it was trash.
gothamette
May 13, 2019 at 1:33 PM
@Gothamette The very high contacts for gay men were largely due to bathhouses.
Shilts describes how the gays were sharply divided on the bathhouses, with one camp advocating shut down and the other camp still in denial that AIDS existed and could be transmitted sexually.
The bathhouses eventually went out of business.
Frau Katze
May 14, 2019 at 9:30 PM
Stop crying about heartiste.
What he did was analogous to using somebody else’s telephone to send obscene messages. His stupid little game was bound to end sooner or later. He’ll end up on Unz, with the Holocaust deniers.
what you should be upset about is Natasha Tynes. Here is a woman who was just doing her civic duty, and her life has now been disrupted and perhaps ruined.
gothamette
May 13, 2019 at 5:39 AM
Unfortunately for some/fortunately for the other, they are intellectual mainstream now.
My 2c
May 13, 2019 at 10:49 AM
“What he did was analogous to using somebody else’s telephone to send obscene messages”
You must have realised this was nonsense even as you were writing it. He had his own blog, and he made his own posts on it, which were read by people who sought out his posts and wanted to read them.
In your analogy, who is ‘the phone’ supposed to belong to?
It would have been better, and more honest, if you just said that he hated him and are glad that he has been silenced and leave it at that. Such a mentality would also neatly frame much of what CH himself argued on his blog about women and the surrent state of society in Western nations.
prolier than thou
May 13, 2019 at 2:32 PM
Your answer to me is a perfect example of how the alt right is composed of inadequate people.
gothamette
May 13, 2019 at 7:38 PM
Ad hominem attack anyone? Phone = the internets, duh. He and red pillians in general have laughably ridiculous ideas about women and relationships, even if the core is legitimate (see my above comment).
I’m not worried about the banning since I have faith in the human ability to seek out information. And goth rightly points out there are bigger fish to fry. If you can’t see something so simple then good luck to your western nations.
toomanymice
May 13, 2019 at 8:31 PM
Did you see my suggestions in getting him back online? I’m trying be helpful. No one has responded.
Frau Katze
May 14, 2019 at 9:39 PM
No responses to my post on how his fans could get the guy back online. I’m experienced in controversial topics. I don’t blog myself but I help and have learned the best way to stay online is make your blog unsearchable.
Heartiste would have to start a new blog. Unless he made regular backups he’s likely lost it all.
But I was looking for something from a deleted blog and I found a shadow copy on some weird site. Look for an unusual phrase.
The Disqus comments were still there. We could still use them.
Tumblr lets you pick to be unsearchable.
These people are all in denial, thinking WordPress will reverse their decision. I wonder if even one has even contacted WordPress to complain.
Not that I think it will help. If this is how his fans treat such a serious disappointment no wonder they need help from PUAs.
Frau Katze
May 14, 2019 at 9:21 PM
Gothamette — no, it’s analogous to using your own damn telephone and having the phone company take it away because they don’t like the people you talk to or what you say. Remember back in the ma bell days you literally *didn’t own your telephone*. The phone company did. I guess the Autistican school of libertarianism fools would be just fine with that. “Start your own phone company.”
Imagine if AT&T had cancelled the telephone accounts of people caught expressing communist ideas.
We’d still be hearing the furor and rightly so, but where are the civil libertarians when communists aren’t the target? Hell, the most notable historical event in the 1950’s wasn’t 50 million peasants being intentionally starved to death by communists, it was a handful of omelet-maker sympathizers who couldn’t find individuals to produce their films for a few years. If communists had ever been banned from using telephones and banks, we have a national day of remembrance and every high school student would have to take a year long history course, in between 9th grade Holocaust Studies and 11th grade Martin Luther King History II.
And say what you will about Unz, he hosts people worth banning and he’s challenging, exposing undeniable blackouts that shame me for thinking of myself as a generally knowledgeable student of history. That’s more than you can say for 10,000 utterly forgettable writers like Natasha Whynes who would never dream of saying anything that would get her banned anywhere let alone Amazon and whom I could read for 1000 years without ever encountering important facts of history that have been thrown into the memory hole.
I’m guessing you’re not a fan of Quillette either?
Mercy Vetsel (@MercyVetsel)
May 15, 2019 at 11:56 PM
I wonder what was the last straw that broke roissy’s back. His pseudo aristocratic pose had lately become pitiable. When lately he started on the slippery slope of antisemitism and ethnic hate (probably self hate), it became clear that his de-platforming was a question of time. He is lucky to be silenced on time, because pseudonomic haters soon will end in jail.
J
May 13, 2019 at 12:18 PM
I was a regular reader of Roissy’s blog around 2006-2012. It was a fantastic place, the writer himself and also the comments section. I remember there was a classy lady known as Alias Clio, and he had an African American friend called Virgle Kent. And this Jamaican guy called David Alexander, who was an incel with a photography hobby. He accommodated them all, before idiots like Greg Eliot took over and it went downhill since then. There were quite a few hot women who were regular commenters as well. There was this Indian chick who sent nude pics once, and I think a Canadian woman who sang with his band. I can’t remember their names, but it was a great time to be alive. The woman who outed him was Lady Rayne, who turned out to have nazi sympathies herself.
SD
May 13, 2019 at 1:18 PM
Ah, nostalgia.
Lady Rayne was a German-American hick from rural Pennsylvania, IIRC. Wouldn’t surprise me if years later she turned around and voted for Trump.
IHTG
May 14, 2019 at 10:07 AM
And who can forget Peter with his pubic hair fetish? I still see him commenting on your blog now and then,
SD
May 13, 2019 at 1:32 PM
I’m sympathetc towards feminism because I consider it as something damaging to male proles, whom I have a great distaste for so I consider this to be good news, made even better by all the tasty male tears that are flowing cuz muh freeze peach
Gm
May 15, 2019 at 6:15 PM
The Trump Administration is fighting for free speech online.
No matter your views, if you suspect political bias has caused you to be censored or silenced online, we want to hear about it!
http://wh.gov/techbias
Oswald Spengler
May 16, 2019 at 12:05 AM
https://gab.com/Heartiste/posts/OG95RUM3RkowbmNYK0FNdnc0ZWxkZz09
Heartiste @Heartiste
a day ago
I almost can’t believe how quickly the Censorship State is gelling into our unquestioned daily reality.
We’re only a few years away from having to store hard copies of dissident writings, in the form of paper books and parchment manifestos, in bunkers and buried lockers. Nothing digital will survive the foliocaust.
Oswald Spengler
May 16, 2019 at 12:09 AM
https://gab.com/Heartiste/posts/eTQ0bElaZ0s4bUppUXZqdXBob2JSZz09
FYI a few days before the 2016 election, Wormpress warned me about the content of a couple of blog posts, and asked they be deleted to avoid a deplatform, which I did. No harm no foul. (The supposed infraction was bogus of course, but I’m not gonna get worked up over a couple of shitposts that took the piss out of Paul Ryan.)
This time around, no warning. No emails from Wormpress. Just sudden darkness.
Someone got to them, and they flinched.
The trigger, I think, was the second to last post in which I encouraged readers to buy tix to Roosh’s US speaking tour to support a political dissident. This bothered the fuck outta the worms at Wormpress or the SJW roving gang of heresy sniffers who promptly converged on Wormpress to demand my head for associating with a known “hater” i.e. a man not sufficiently embarrassed by his masculinity.
Oswald Spengler
May 16, 2019 at 12:12 AM