According to the Huffington Post:
Four men, Noah Williams, Termaine Scott, Darius Singleton and Garrett Collick, all 18, were charged with conspiring to sexually assault the victim. Jahmel Latimer, also 18, joined the attack while it was in progress and is charged with aggravated sexual assault, prosecutors said.
Not to be confused with the made-up rape at the University of Virginia.
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Lion of the Blogosphere 
These young men may have been guilty of excessive high spirits, but of course they can’t be guilty because slavery.
peterike2
December 6, 2014 at 5:02 PM
These young men = niggers
Anything less is uncivilized and evidence of one’s allegiance to the radical liberation of the “black” collective.
thordaddy
December 8, 2014 at 6:16 AM
wow. pure class.
Dome_Town
December 8, 2014 at 10:47 AM
The UVa case wasn’t totally made-up, it just took a few unocorroborated facts and sensationalized them to the extreme.
If you want to know what Sabrina Rubin Erdely (author of the Rolling Stone piece) was going for, you need to think of the article as an elaborate piece of religious art designed to stir up the fervor of the faithful, not a detailed factual report intending to resolve the “victim’s” case.
More like “The Passion of the Christ” than Woodward and Bernstein.
McFly
December 6, 2014 at 5:17 PM
William Patterson University has 10k undergraduates, is a1000 SAT (Math/Verbal) school with 14% of the student body being black. It has a 48% six year graduate rate. http://collegeresults.org/collegeprofile.aspx?institutionid=187444
It started out as a teachers college and appears to be what I call the regional economic develop university where people go to get degrees in education, nursing, library science, criminal justice, and accounting.
superdestroyer
December 6, 2014 at 5:20 PM
I doubt they actually teach accounting, since that discipline requires ability beyond the 450-500 SAT math level. maybe “bookkeeping,” which might get you an interview as a clerk in a medical office.
floyd
December 6, 2014 at 6:09 PM
I went to a similar university where they did actually teach accounting.
There is strong stratification between majors…in these crappy universities there are smart people in accounting, and REALLY stupid people in business/psychology/etc.
jjbees
December 6, 2014 at 7:03 PM
Accounting is a trade. This being said, the entire education system in the US is a joke, and a waste of money and time. The essence of college for men is to get laid. Apprenticeships and training programs for trades would be the best bet for a male student wanting to free himself from distractions including women, and get on with a decent paying career.
Putting black males in a college campus is like a chimp out of his cage, since blacks exhibit lower future time orientation when it comes to anything “cerebral”. Observing black students at Columbia’s University library, especially black guys with their headphones even during cram time, while everyone else is knocking on their midterms and finals, is clear evidence that blacks are just not fitted for modern society.
I can’t wait till the education system implodes because of liberals like de Blasio, who asserts that our education system should be another daycare program for his beloved minions.
JS
December 7, 2014 at 3:15 PM
New Jersey is an anomaly. All of the former state colleges have been renamed as “universities” when they are nothing of the sort. There are only four true research universities in NJ that have significant doctoral programs and produce any sort of high level research, in order of SAT scores they are Princeton, Stevens, Rutgers, and NJIT.
Michael
December 7, 2014 at 2:35 PM
Actually, in 2013 Princeton had 143 reported sexual offenses (according to a survey published in the New Jersey Star Ledger), which was among the highest in NJ. Simply being smart doesn’t preclude one from committing a crime.
Michael
December 7, 2014 at 2:37 PM
NJIT sounds kind of bogus.
Lion of the Blogosphere
December 7, 2014 at 6:45 PM
NJIT is ok. It’s not Stevens, Princeton, or Rutgers but it puts out decent engineers.
Michael
December 7, 2014 at 8:02 PM
Michael, that’s called a fad (making up stories about “sexual offenses” to be part of a group). If you believe there were 143 women sexually assaulted at Princeton in 2013, you should be exiled from Western civilization.
Copperhead Joe
December 8, 2014 at 5:51 PM
Copperhead, the survey reported all reported sexual offenses on all campuses in the state. I will try to find it on the paper’s website again. That’s what it said. Don’t shoot the messenger.
Michael
December 8, 2014 at 9:09 PM
Per NJ.com:
“As freshman, the five defendants would have had to have attended seminars on sexual violence, according to multiple students.”
Really, “seminars” (plural)? Does than mean YouPorn AND RedTube?
Mark Caplan
December 6, 2014 at 8:24 PM
There’s a good, though lower, chance this one is made up too.
Howie Stern
December 6, 2014 at 9:07 PM
i dont comment often, but I notice whenever I do you make a post out of it! I remember I posted a link to a Steve Hsu post about IQ/intelligence a few months ago and you made a response post to it.
im not sure what my point is tho
Live-Evil/Lion of Judah/other pseudonyms i use on the Internets
December 6, 2014 at 9:39 PM
Thank you for giving me topics for posts and I apologize for not crediting you in the post, but that’s out of laziness on my part rather than malice.
Lion of the Blogosphere
December 6, 2014 at 9:48 PM
No problem! I just wanted to point that out for some reason.
Live-Evil/Lion of Judah/other pseudonyms i use on the Internets
December 7, 2014 at 7:58 AM
Blog fodder- what does HS think about this Obama initiate to funnel women/minorities into CS via an AP course for Dummies.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/largest-us-districts-teach-computer-science-27439570
Lion of the Turambar
December 8, 2014 at 5:00 PM
According to the article I read, Jahmel Latimer walked in on them raping her and says, “Oh word, can I jump on that?” Who the hell asks if they can get in on a gang rape? Think about that.
destructure
December 6, 2014 at 9:39 PM
I think the average person would be more likely to do that than conspire to rape someone one out of the blue. I know a lot of the people on this board are anti social loner weirdos but for normal people It is very difficult resist peer pressure.
Howie Stern
December 6, 2014 at 10:19 PM
both can lead to bad ends.
the independent person may decide for himself that his fellows are expendable.
the follower will follow wherever whether it’s jumping off a bridge or Auschwitz.
the crowd has a moderating influence, but when the crowd’s wrong…the death toll goes from at most thousands to millions.
Robert Gabriel Mugabe
December 7, 2014 at 12:49 AM
it’s off topic, but lion might be interested in the following graph:
Robert Gabriel Mugabe
December 7, 2014 at 1:47 AM
@ Howie Stern “I think the average person would be more likely to do that than conspire to rape someone one out of the blue.”
I don’t think the average person would rape anyone under any circumstances.
“I know a lot of the people on this board are anti social loner weirdos but for normal people It is very difficult resist peer pressure.”
False dichotomy aside, it’s interesting that you effectively consider independent thinkers as “anti social loner weirdos” and peer pressured rapists as “normal”. That’s creepy.
destructure
December 7, 2014 at 5:13 PM
I think the language I used went over your head. You can be more likely to do something than something else without being likely to do it. Just like you can be taller than someone without being tall.
Howie Stern
December 8, 2014 at 10:29 AM
pornographers?
Robert Gabriel Mugabe
December 6, 2014 at 11:08 PM
According to the article I read, Jahmel Latimer walked in on them raping her and says, “Oh word, can I jump on that?” Who the hell asks if they can get in on a gang rape? Think about that.
It’s very common for black males to pass the p***y around like a platter and run “trains”, as vulgar as that thought may be. When you don’t invest much in your mates and/or social partners you really don’t care who else is dipping their pen in the same ink.
Camlost
December 7, 2014 at 12:15 AM
If true this may have something to do with the culture of poverty. In “A Framework for Understanding Poverty” Ruby Payne says that in lower-class culture there is the expectation that when you come into something – money, a possession, etc.. you are expected to share it with others. She claims that this is one reason why poor people have a hard time saving money even if they are relatively thrifty. This tendency probably derails a lot of poor people who might otherwise be able to escape poverty. That and the fact that some poor people try to cut down anyone they see achieving. Check out the documentary “American Hollow” on Youtube about an extended family in Appalachia. You’ll see a 20 year old kid who is planning to leave being referred to by his grandfather as “a bad check just like the rest of us.” His uncle tries to help him, but after a month he’s back home.
Maryk
December 7, 2014 at 10:38 AM
True, Maryk. In Philippines, this expectation of sharing among the poor is called “pakisisama” and in Colombia it’s “iguale” (sp?).
driveallnight
December 12, 2014 at 6:27 PM
At least he’s polite.
Glengarry
December 7, 2014 at 5:32 AM
Sort of like the many cases where a black male enters a house or business to do a robbery and also rapes the White female occupant, often an elderly woman …”oh well, while I’m here, I might as well get me some!”
E. Rekshun
December 7, 2014 at 5:53 AM
After the second man in line finishes, wouldn’t the scene be more than a bit messy?
I’ve never engaged in intercourse with more than one other person in the room, but I wouldn’t be able to get aroused with a third party watching, never mind three or four other men rushing me. I used make an old girlfriend put her puppy out of the bedroom when it was time to get down.
E. Rekshun
December 7, 2014 at 5:59 AM
Black men have much higher sex drives, and much less shame about it.
Lion of the Blogosphere
December 7, 2014 at 8:58 AM
Black men have much higher sex drives, and much less shame about it.
Criminals should be given substantial financial incentives to be sterilized. Black criminals in particular (and Hispanics to a lesser extent). As Michael Levin argued in defense of differential punishment by race, black criminals are the least reformable of all races. Depending on how outrageous the crime was, white criminals might theoretically be able to reenter society or have children that “regress up” to the white mean enough to become high skill blue collar workers or join the military.
The Undiscovered Jew
December 7, 2014 at 9:54 AM
Warfare of the future will be done with drones and robots, so there will be less need for human soldiers, especially low-skill humans who aren’t smart enough to operate or maintain the robots.
Lion of the Blogosphere
December 7, 2014 at 9:58 AM
especially low-skill humans who aren’t smart enough to operate or maintain the robots.
Drones are many decades away from replacing living airforce pilots.
When that technological threshold is reached, robots will probably still need service from human technicians. A task prole whites are well suited. Intelligent whites will prefer air conditioned offices instead of working with their hands.
The Undiscovered Jew
December 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM
“Criminals should be given substantial financial incentives to be sterilized.”
Wouldn’t this just create a perverse incentive for borderline ghetto residents to become criminals in the first place? Banfield wrote about this in “The Unheavenly City” and Murray in “Losing Ground.” None of us here would be tempted by the money, but then our “fix” comes from intellectual pursuits more than anything else. But lower income, and especially low-IQ people operate differently. The problem is that the reward has to be substantial to give them an incentive to change their behavior. And it it’s substantial then it attracts people who it wasn’t intended for.
Maryk
December 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM
Re: the dog, been there done that. Dogs are smarter than we give them credit for. No reason for them to know everything we do.
Curle
December 7, 2014 at 11:33 AM
Depending on how outrageous the crime was, white criminals might theoretically be able to reenter society or have children that “regress up” to the white mean enough to become high skill blue collar workers or join the military.
Slightly OT and related to HBD: There’s a supermarket (unsurprisingly owned by a Jewish guy) by my way which has a deli counter staffed by blacks and caribbean hispanics and the customers are 90% White and the service is shoddy to say the least. Guys who are overly rude and arrogant and openly resentful of the White people who shop there. Not to mention, they can be as stupid as Mestizo Hispanics, but with a terrible attitude.
I’m thinking of walking up the block to another market whose deli corner has a Mestizo staff where I don’t have to put up with the stinking attitudes. I would pay more for the service just to have a peace of mind.
JS
December 7, 2014 at 12:18 PM
“After the second man in line finishes, wouldn’t the scene be more than a bit messy?”
Haha, you’ve lived a sheltered sex life (nothing to be ashamed of, of course). There’s an entire, relatively non-obscure porn genre that revolves around other men’s ejaculate inside and on women’s vaginas: creamy pies. The dedication to this niche runs the gamut from guys who just like a camera closeup or would want intercourse with the female all the way up to those fellows fantasize about removing it via cunnilingus!
anon
December 7, 2014 at 4:49 PM
What about EMP type weapons that will surely follow robotization? If women are always needed for sex men will always be needed for war.
eradican
December 7, 2014 at 6:30 PM
Wouldn’t this just create a perverse incentive for borderline ghetto residents to become criminals in the first place?
The medium and short term benefits easily outweigh any short term hike in crime. Borderline, but law abiding, ghetto denizens have such high frequencies of crime genes (33% of black American men ultimately serve prison time) that it’s likely most of their children will wind up as jailbirds even if their fathers don’t. It’s better for everyone, even blacks, they not reproduce.
And, really, if they’re stupid enough to commit crime just to earn a one time cash-for-vasectomy payment, they’re too stupid to be having any children.
The alternatives are forcible sterilization or no sterilization.
Considering criminality is genetic, your preferred policy is…?
But lower income, and especially low-IQ people operate differently. The problem is that the reward has to be substantial to give them an incentive to change their behavior. And it it’s substantial then it attracts people who it wasn’t intended for.
Why get into a bidding war? Low IQ, crime prone, minorities have such low future time orientation they’ll sign the dotted line at the first offer. $5,000 indexed for inflation should be more than good enough to get their participation.
I wouldn’t offer early release as an additional benefit – meaning no payments for those with life sentences or on death row. However,conjugal visits should have sterilization as a prerequisite regardless of sentence length.
The Undiscovered Jew
December 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM
UNDISCOVERED JEW – “Criminals should be given substantial financial incentives to be sterilized.”
Then they’ll complain, “I can’t breed! I can’t breed!”
Mark Caplan
December 8, 2014 at 6:17 AM
Then they’ll complain, “I can’t breed! I can’t breed!”
Why, that would be the point of the whole enterprise.
The Undiscovered Jew
December 8, 2014 at 7:17 PM
Was it a male puppy? Good thinking.
The Abbot of Lufford
December 11, 2014 at 1:12 AM
UVA has an SAT (V&M) as follows: 25th percentile of admissions – 1250 and the 75th percentile – 1460. Wm Patterson is a 1000 SAT average school (converts to IQ of 104 which is HS average).
Though you write often of high end schools, you rarely cover (to the best of my recollection) bottom end schools of the type Fussell scorned as not really colleges. Wm Patterson is certainly one of those.
I’d appreciate your thoughts on the scandal that is for profit open enrollment online colleges. The GAO has been investigating these institutions because they receive so much public money (recruitment incentives for vets) and their graduates (of those that graduate) imagine themselves to have entered the cognitive elite only to find their degrees mostly worthless. http://chronicle.com/article/Undercover-Probe-Finds-Lax/129881. This system, giving people public money to attend non-competitive colleges, really highlights the distinction between those who view college credentials as a badge of training and those who view them as a proxy for IQ. For the folks attending open enrollment colleges, there is no real IQ proxy because you don’t need a decent SAT score to get in.
Curle
December 7, 2014 at 1:12 AM
A lot of the for-profit online “colleges” get 90% of their income from Federal student loans. Most of their students have no business being in college at all. Fortunately, revenue has been dropping recently as people are figuring out that the courses are incredibly dumbed down, and the graduates don’t know anything.
Student loans should be privatized. Yes, that would mean fewer people would attend college, which is a feature, not a bug. Engineers would still be able to get loans, and they would not be subsidizing the transsexual studies majors.
BehindTheLines
December 7, 2014 at 2:21 AM
The real problem in America is the subsidization of NAMs, especially blacks in every facet of society. Our system is dumbed down to accommodate them at every level.
Smart and savvy businesses don’t hire blacks given their self centered attitudes where their own interests are more important than those of the clients or customers.
JS
December 7, 2014 at 12:37 PM
biggest problem with the student loan debacle besides what you mention is also it has driven up the costs of not only tuition but also cost of living expenses (room and board, mean plans, etc.) at American universities by nearly 100% in about a decade.
Dome_Town
December 7, 2014 at 4:07 PM
As one might expect, the article starts with a gang rape and peters out with a couple of guys at Princeton sending emails mocking women. It’s all one, you see.
Glengarry
December 7, 2014 at 5:38 AM
NJ.com, which seems to be on top of this gang rape story, says the five teens have no criminal record. However, don’t the courts regularly seal or even expunge the criminal records of juveniles? Since the defendants supposedly have no criminal record, the judge reduced their bail. Most are now out of jail.
Mark Caplan
December 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM
When I read the Tyrone types mentioned on the 1st sentence of Lion’s post , my negro critique mode automatically jumped in.
Dailymail always show the faces of the perpetrators of a crime regardless of race.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2858319/Five-New-Jersey-college-students-plead-not-guilty-gang-raping-woman-held-against-dorm-room.html
JS
December 7, 2014 at 12:02 PM
William Patterson University is having an open house for their MBA program on Dec. 11th if anyone in the Wayne, NJ area is interested.
E. Rekshun
December 7, 2014 at 2:51 PM
Good one.
Curle
December 7, 2014 at 7:47 PM
An MBA from Wm. P, Montclair, Rider, Rowan, or any of the other recently renamed ersatz “universities” isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on.
Michael
December 7, 2014 at 8:12 PM
Maybe, but it will give the holders access to government jobs. Which should not give you confidence in the future of public institutions.
Curle
December 8, 2014 at 5:48 AM
Sometimes you can find real gems at ordinary local colleges, though. Back when Rowan University was Glassboro State College it had an English professor named Richard Mitchell. He wrote numerous books about education that everyone here would appreciate. I encourage all of you here to check out his books, especially “The Graves of Academe” and “Less than words can say” They’re really exceptional. One of the reasons I like this blog so much is because the thinking here and the writing styles somewhat resemble his. He was as provocative as Jorge Videla, as snide (yet fascinating) as JS, as clear-thinking as TUJ and E. Rekshun, and as monomaniacal as “Maryk!” And of course as brilliant as the Lion (well, maybe not AS brilliant, but he was close!)
He also edited a newsletter for years called “The Underground Grammarian” every issue of which was possible to read on the internet. I don’t know if the website is still there, though. His was not the standard educational “conservative” viewpoint – and he was very hard on Allan Bloom, and merciless toward E.D. Hirsch.
Maryk
December 8, 2014 at 9:17 PM
Who were they trying to sexual assault?
Don’t be surprised if de Blasio decides to sink lower than usual with his morale.
“My defense of their wrongdoing is their lack of privilege to sororities, afforded to White fraternities”.
JS
December 7, 2014 at 7:19 PM
OT/ I wonder how this works to the benefit of Lefties? “In December, Facebook tweaked its algorithm to show what it called “high quality” stories in users’ feeds. Media outlets such as BuzzFeed, The Atlantic and Slate credited the change with a burst in Facebook referrals. Mr. Hughes said it was difficult to tell whether it affected The New Republic.” http://adage.com/article/media/chris-hughes-made-republic-relevant/292506/
Curle
December 8, 2014 at 5:46 AM