Of course HRC cares more about bathrooms than blue-collar whites
WaPo article about a Democrat who wrote a memo to the Clinton campaign which was ignored.
“Look, I’m as progressive as anybody, okay? But people in the heartland thought the Democratic Party cared more about where someone else went to the restroom than whether they had a good-paying job,” [David Betras] complained. “‘Stronger together’ doesn’t get anyone a job.”
Of course HRC cares a lot more about bathrooms than about blue-collar whites. Transgender bathrooms are the next phase of the war against the evil inequality caused by traditional gender relations.
Liberals believe that all whites have “white privilege,” and they also don’t believe in genetic differences in IQ or other attributes, therefore if someone born with “white privilege” doesn’t go to college and then winds up unemployed or with a crappy low-paying job, it means it’s their fault for being too lazy to go to college. They believe that blue-collar whites are stupid, but it’s a stupidity caused by laziness, they were too lazy to go to college and become smart. They are morally responsible for their economic situation. Why should HRC care about blue-collar whites when there are minorities who are victims of pervasive racism who are genuinely deserving of being helped?
When HRC called Trump’s supporters “deplorables,” it was a slip of the tongue that showed how she really felt. Too lazy to go to college, and then blaming their problems on underprivileged victimized Mexican immigrants, people who genuinely need HRC’s help. That’s truly deplorable.
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In response to the #BoycottHamilton hashtag that got some play on Twitter after Pence was unprofessionally dressed down by the cast, we saw many SJW tweeters say things like “Trump voters are too poor to afford tickets,” which demonstrates how they feel they deserve to be wealthier than blue-collar whites, because unlike those wrong kind of white people, they weren’t too lazy to go to college and become smart.
Lion of the Blogosphere 
Yeah, you’ve made the point many times that a lot of people believe that education makes you SMARTER — people on the right as well as the left.
CamelCaseRob
November 22, 2016 at 6:54 PM
Wow, I just got a recorded telephone message from Donald Trump. At first I thought somebody had screwed up and was still making elections calls, but I listened on and it was about Obamacare and how he will be introducing legislation to “repeal and replace” it and a call to urge me to pressure my congressmen to support his bill. This is unprecedented in my experience. Someone also has plenty of money because my congressman and senators would all be supportive of that anyway. They aren’t targeting Democrat officials but apparently hitting the entire country with these calls.
CamelCaseRob
November 22, 2016 at 7:17 PM
Does he actually have the replacement legislation ready or are the health industry lobbyists still writing it?
Magnavox
November 22, 2016 at 9:01 PM
You are TruCon scum.
He needs to do something about Obamacare to satisfy the GOPe. In exchange he will get his stimulus bill, funding for the wall and defunding of sanctuary cities. It’s a good trade.
Otis the Sweaty
November 23, 2016 at 2:22 AM
Comfortingly similar to the Obamacare setup, so Democrats won’t feel like they have to vote against it.
Glengarry
November 23, 2016 at 4:09 AM
I get the feeling that some of these initiatives (also including tax reform) are good old cuck plans boiling up now that the battle is won. That also explains the old school methods and sudden influx of money to pursue this.
To the Trumpistas, I’d say this: While some of this has to be done, don’t get drawn too far into the circus of business as usual and making big money wishlists into agendas. Remember who got you elected and why. It sure wasn’t business as usual.
Glengarry
November 23, 2016 at 4:07 AM
You don’t understand National Populism. Napis believe in allying with big business. We give them tax cuts, deregulation, union busting and deregulation and in exchange we get their support for our xenophobic, populist agenda. It is a tried and trued method that has worked in many different nations over the course of the last century.
Otis the Sweaty
November 23, 2016 at 5:45 AM
The Chamber of Commerce/Koch Brother scum are worse. They donated to Hilary, wanted Hilary and actively tried to sabotage Trump with the tapes and fake rape accusations. Koch even came out and endorsed Hilary.
Ask yourself: how can you endorse Hilary, and call yourself conservative?
They were never conservatives!!! They, like neocons, owe no allegiance to the flag.
The Philosopher
November 23, 2016 at 5:55 AM
There is some truth to that. Stephen Moore is a Trump economic advisor but the ONLY thing he cares about (or has ever cared about) are tax cuts. With him, it’s always 1982. I’ve seen him on TV a lot the past few months and he hardly ever mentions any other issue than tax cuts.
Mike Street Station
November 23, 2016 at 6:30 AM
Perhaps the greatest irony about the cast of “Hamilton”(?) jeering Pence was that Trump won the Presidency thanks to Alexander Hamilton’s insisting, on elitist grounds, that the Constitution require the Electoral College elect the president, not the popular vote.
https://pragmaticallydistributed.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/hamilton-against-anarcho-libertarians-hamilton-against-hamilton/
and the intruder of the moment is this hashtag event involving the treatment of Vice President-elect Pence at the hands of the cast of “Hamilton”.
How wrong is this?
Trump’s wisdom was to run for the presidency on the most Hamiltonian platform in a century; Trump’s genius was to win by disguising Hamilton’s crypto-Royalism as Jacksonian populism.
The result of the hijacking of the Republican party by Trump has been to pull it back (unwillingly) to its glorious origins in Hamilton’s Federalist Party and Lincoln’s Golden Age GOP of 1860 to 1932; and for this his Vice President-elect was heckled by the pothead actors of “Hamilton” who have never read any books and consequently do not realize the electoral college they want abolished was a favorite project of Hamilton.
The Undiscovered Jew
November 22, 2016 at 7:34 PM
America is all about money. Yakov is the sage here.
It’s not about ideology or political affiliation.
It’s really about the haves and have nots.
JS
November 22, 2016 at 10:22 PM
America is about freedom and opportunity, money is a natural outcome of that.
Yakov
November 23, 2016 at 3:19 PM
America is about money and only about money.
Most proles in Middle America didn’t elect Trump, to temper our herculean police state. They voted for him, because they didn’t have any jobs, essentially not having any money, because they were out of work.
JS
November 23, 2016 at 7:56 PM
America is about freedom and opportunity, money is a natural outcome of that.
And no founding father was a greater Capitalist than Hamilton. When his policy vision was fully implemented by Republicans from 1865 to 1932, America’s economy was scorching hot; without question the most glorious experiment in free markets the world has ever seen.
The Undiscovered Jew
November 23, 2016 at 5:38 PM
Most proles have jobs. The reason they voted for Trump is because he is a Patriot who appealed to their patriotic vision of the country. People need meaning in their lives, they need to feel great about themselves and their land. This is more important then money and explaines the huge crowds that Trump was bringing out. I, in my own little way, have been feeling exuberant since his victory.
Yakov
November 23, 2016 at 8:16 PM
Yakov — We’re not talking about proles in NYC. I’m talking about the region that predominantly voted for Trump, which is Middle America.
Liberals must be wrong on this one:
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/why-middle-america-voted-for-trump/
JS
November 23, 2016 at 8:24 PM
The reason they voted for Trump is because he is a Patriot who appealed to their patriotic vision of the country. People need meaning in their lives, they need to feel great about themselves and their land.
Capitalism and nationalism fit naturally together. The Monroe Doctrine reflected Hamilton’s long-term goal of turning the entire Western Hemisphere into a mercantilist colony of the United States. He also was one of the earliest advocates of a powerful American military and infrastructure projects that would employ Proles.
The Undiscovered Jew
November 24, 2016 at 12:17 AM
No, proles have always been patriotic and Republican.
It’s jobs with Trump.
JS
November 24, 2016 at 7:38 PM
It’s worth noting that people instinctively feel that being poor is bad, and non-poor people are inevitably going to look on poor people with distaste. When liberals look at poor whites, they’re simply allowing themselves to feel the gut-level reaction that anyone would feel upon looking at any poor people. It’s only when looking at poor NAMs that they must suppress that gut reaction and tell themselves that those people are poor only because they’re being oppressed by white privilege and the systemic racism of our white supremacist society.
Hermes
November 22, 2016 at 7:40 PM
‘non-poor people are inevitably going to look on poor people with distaste’.
Twisted values. Poor people may need help, but to look at them with distaste? This isn’t Jewish or Christian morality. I don’t know anyone who feels this way. Where do live and who are these people you are talking about?
Yakov
November 22, 2016 at 8:30 PM
I didn’t say it was morality, just that it was people’s gut-level reaction. Morality requires rising above our instincts.
Hermes
November 23, 2016 at 12:14 AM
I dunno what people. This isn’t a gut level reaction of the people I know. I can’t speak for 8 billion creatures, obviously, but Jews on a genetic level are merciful and charitable. This isn’t their gut reaction. What people are like that? What evolutionary forces would have caused them to look at poor people with distaste?
Yakov
November 23, 2016 at 7:14 AM
Even if that were true, which whites would have enough power to oppress NAM’s? Certainly not poor or working class whites. It goes to show that these folks are pretty illogical. Only the higher classes of whites could oppress NAM’s not rednecks working construction or on oil rigs, etc.
not too late
November 22, 2016 at 8:53 PM
What’s very logical: Either you vote liberal and live in a liberal center, or live in a prole area and vote Republican.
I hate cons who live in wealthy liberal centers and know what’s best for prole whites who live in prole areas.
It’s damn true that liberal cities in America are wealthier, have better food options, and are more cosmopolitan. Cons who live in these areas are just liberals with a prole base, who want their entitlements that comes with being wealthy.
Anyone who lives in Manhattan and votes Republican is being disingenuous.
JS
November 22, 2016 at 10:18 PM
I’m sure some of you here listen to Michael Savage or Mark Levin. Basically, phonyCons who dupe prole White listeners from rural areas.
You think Conservative talk show host, Michael Savage would ever trade wealthy-liberal San Francisco for poor-redneck Arkansas as his place of residence, where he wouldn’t be able enjoy his $100 plate of sushi?
JS
November 22, 2016 at 10:28 PM
Ayo, hole up hole up. Don’t forget that the worst hell holes in America are liberal cities too.
Glengarry
November 23, 2016 at 4:12 AM
JS, you’re a moron. Where do you think sushi ranks among the reasons for wanting to live in Northern California?
Cole Haight
November 23, 2016 at 12:52 PM
No they’re not. White majority liberal cities are great places to live for people with money.
Is San Francisco dangerous to you? White liberals live with other White liberals.
Ask Mark Levin, if he wants to live near working class, coal workers.
Wealthy cons who live in these cities are hypocrites like White liberals.
JS
November 23, 2016 at 7:58 PM
Tell me how Michael Savage will get his exquisite sushi in Arkansas!
JS
November 23, 2016 at 7:59 PM
‘It’s worth noting that people instinctively feel that being poor is bad, and non-poor people are inevitably going to look on poor people with distaste.’
Wrong. Or at least you’re not speaking of me. I have no distaste for working poor people. I have utter disdain, on the cusp of violent anger, for poor people who think they deserve the wealth of working people handed to them at gunpoint via taxation. They are thieves, and cowardly thieves.
hard9bf
November 23, 2016 at 7:48 PM
I’m installing my first steam boiler now. Challenging and tons of fun. The thing weights 1200 lb and it was pretty hard getting it into the basement and figuring out how to install it. I hadn’t even known how a steam boiler worked until yesterday, but now I do. Plumbing is tons of fun. This whole thing of white collar vs white collar is stupid. What matters is that you do real useful stuff and enjoy it. Plumbing is a terrific field. Just terrific. Very empowering. Oh, and before I forget, the money, mates, the money is just terrific too. A plumber can surely afford a ticket to watch ‘Hamilton’, but why would he do it? I’ve only been to a Broadway theater to fix AC. Nice people, but lots of phonies in the audience. Incidently, I love theater, but ‘Hamilton’ is trash. In Russia they had amazing theater, till this day a remember the plays I had seen. Today it mostly trash, like everywhere in the world.
Yakov
November 22, 2016 at 8:25 PM
Now he’s a plumber?
Glengarry
November 23, 2016 at 4:13 AM
No, just branching out into a profitable area which is very closely related to HVAC. This is called professional advancement, mate. You don’t have to stare at stock quotes on a screen the whole day. There is real life and real people out there doing real things. Gas burners and valves, water lines, pressure, temperature and ignition controls – HVAC has all of this. Pay attention to what’s written on plumber’s trucks. Many do ductless installation and for the same reason – to generate additional income. This is America where the sky is the limit. Never forget this. How much do you think you can bill for changing a steam boiler? Call up a plumber for a quote just make sure you are sitting down. Lol.
Yakov
November 23, 2016 at 7:08 AM
It’s still far from obvious that Trump actually cares for blue collar whites more than Clinton. And Romney also won blue collar whites. I don’t know the last time the democrats actually won blue collar whites.
Trump may be the first republican candidate for whom blue collar whites voting could be considered economically rational but he’s far from the first to actually receive their votes.
Magnavox
November 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM
“It’s still far from obvious that Trump actually cares for blue collar whites more than Clinton.”
You’re right, but the difference is, Trump’s political future is dependent upon his base of working class whites, whereas Hillary thought she didn’t need them and could govern like she didn’t need them as well. So it really was rational for a working class white to vote Trump. Now maybe Trump realizes the gig isn’t for him and just implodes hilariously in a way that totally screws working whites, but with Hillary you knew going in exactly what she was.
Two in the Bush
November 22, 2016 at 10:40 PM
Trump has emboldened a certain segment of the Alt-Right, and that is the most important.
JS
November 22, 2016 at 10:58 PM
It’s obvious to me that Trump doesn’t DISLIKE white proles the way that HRC does.
Lion of the Blogosphere
November 23, 2016 at 12:01 AM
How are things on the NeverTrump side, Magnavox?
Glengarry
November 23, 2016 at 4:14 AM
Not good. He has to post here because we have exterminated his movement forever.
Otis the Sweaty
November 23, 2016 at 8:36 AM
You guys really can’t read. My comment was pro democrat not pro traditional conservative.
Magnavox
November 24, 2016 at 1:24 AM
It’s harder to be a virtuous person when you’re poor. When you’re hungry, you’re more concerned with your next meal than giving equal rights to transgendered people. The wretched are the ones whose humanity is confined in their time and place. When hipsters protest against transgender discrimination, it’s virtue signalling, true but it’s more than that. It signals a comfortable life.
Deal with it!
November 22, 2016 at 9:59 PM
Are you being pro-prole now? Anyone who didn’t graduate from college is a prole.
JS
November 22, 2016 at 10:56 PM
Lion, are you going to cover the recent alt-right meeting in D.C. that’s been all over the news lately? The alt-right seems to have come out as full blown Nazis.
Tom
November 23, 2016 at 12:38 AM
Another media hoax. Trump got all the MSM into a room and beat them silly. http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/21/media/donald-trump-meeting-tv-networks/
Now the media is going full frontal on Trump.
The key is for Trump to cast the media as a deranged partisan. In time the media’s decline will hasten. Media’s favorability currently only 32% (who the f**k are these people?):
http://www.gallup.com/poll/195542/americans-trust-mass-media-sinks-new-low.aspx
Notice the drop in 2003 with the Iraq war. The first noticeable glitch in the matrix. I think its dawning on people Syria is another glitch. Likewise Putin controlling Trump narrative.
Wikileaks deserves mucho credit here. As does brave efforts from Cernovich, Greenwald, Unz and our progressive friends.
Once the counter narrative is seeded by Trump, who is the only human alive that could do this effectively and with skill, its bedtime.
The Philosopher
November 23, 2016 at 5:52 AM
I really don’t feel like the media coverage has been that bad. I can only think of only 2 examples of anti Trump bias in the MSM this election season: 1. In the aftermath of the Pussy tape it seemed like for about a week or so the MSM transformed into an arm of the Hillary campaign. That only lasted for about a week, however. 2. The entire campaign we got propaganda from the media that “Trump’s campaign is in disarray!”. Now that the campaign is over we are getting “Trump’s transition is in disarray!”. But it really isn’t that bad and also it is probably true in comparison to previous campaigns and administrations, Trump does everything so much differently.
The media hammered Hillary on the emails for the last week of the race, and without that I don’t know if Trump gets elected.
Trump’s problem has never been the media, it has been Trump himself. The guy is a buffoon and his clownishness turns off most college educated whites. Suburban whites simply do not care for politicians like Trump, they want to be led by guys like John Kasich, guys who they regard as “Presidential”.
Blaming the media for Trump’s unfavorables is as misguided as liberals who blame the media for Hillary’s unfavorables.
Otis the Sweaty
November 23, 2016 at 8:44 AM
I would like to revise the numbers in my early post about the natural margins of Hillary’s popular vote victory.
I said that voter fraud was only made a point 0.1 point difference in Hillary’s margin at most, I am changing that to a 0.2 margin. I also said that Romney voters who voted for Hillary only added to Hillary’s margin by 0.2 points. After closer examination of exit polls, I am, very conservatively, changing that number to 1.5 points.
Assuming the Dems run Cory Booker, or another good black candidate in 2020, the Democrats natural margin would be a popular vote victory of 2.3 points, as opposed to my earlier estimate of 3.8 points.
Were Trump to flip another 3 points worth of Hillary’s white votes, Trump’s would win the popular vote by a projected margin of 1.8%. Were he to gain an extra 5 points with non-black non-whites, he would increase his projected margin to 2.8%.
As for the stock market and the economy: looking at PE ratios, stocks aren’t that expensive. a market crash is certainly possible, but stocks simply aren’t as overpriced as they were during the dotcom bubble. I don’t think the stock market is too much of a worry right now.
A recession is baked into the cake but the destruction of immigrant community combined with massive deficit spending should minimize the pain as well as provide the public with distractions. Less important than the recession, however, is when the recession occurs. We don’t want it to occur in the first or last year of Trump’s term. Best is probably Trump’s 3rd year although it will probably occur this coming year.
Otis the Sweaty
November 23, 2016 at 6:26 AM
Recession? Who knows? Thing are booming by me like never before. Why? I dunno. Who know? Maybe because all these people need places to live? Thing are just very good. And this is how it should be, if you ask me. A dirty, hard working, tired guy should be doing good. Staying relaxed, focused, indexed and invested while accumulating a cash position is the right formula for me at these times.
Yakov
November 23, 2016 at 7:25 AM
Speaking of recession timing. Obama took over at the bottom of the housing / financial crisis. And he’s leaving just as the markets surge on Trump’s election. His numbers are greatly distorted / inflated. But that won’t stop the left from crowing.
destructure
November 23, 2016 at 9:19 AM
Why is bathroom equality progress, anyway? Or or that matter, any kind of equality?
Jason Liu
November 23, 2016 at 7:25 AM
Doesn’t HBD support HRC’s view somewhat? If whites have higher intelligence then it is deplorable when they fail with innately possessing greater gifts, yes?
QuarterSigma
November 23, 2016 at 10:41 AM
The average white has an IQ of 100, and someone with an IQ of only 100 is probably not going to be any sort of success in our economy (although some [not most, more like a few] who have good work ethic and the right connections will make decent money in a blue-collar trade).
Lion of the Blogosphere
November 23, 2016 at 11:18 AM
An IQ of 100 plus a good work ethic, with or without connections, still equals success — I’ve seen it again and again; unless you define success as a six-figure income. Plenty of cities offer a comfortable lifestyle at $50,000 or less.
hard9bf
November 23, 2016 at 7:57 PM
Name a few safe American cities where a person can live relatively comfortably for $50K or less, because of affordable rents and public transportation. I don’t know of any.
JS
November 23, 2016 at 10:30 PM
“Liberals believe that all whites have “white privilege,” and they also don’t believe in genetic differences in IQ or other attributes, therefore if someone born with “white privilege” doesn’t go to college and then winds up unemployed or with a crappy low-paying job, it means it’s their fault for being too lazy to go to college. They believe that blue-collar whites are stupid, but it’s a stupidity caused by laziness, they were too lazy to go to college and become smart. They are morally responsible for their economic situation. Why should HRC care about blue-collar whites when there are minorities who are victims of pervasive racism who are genuinely deserving of being helped?”
This is just a straw-man argument. Liberals don’t think like that. Liberals think everyone should be given an equal opportunity to be successful. Trump doesn’t care about blue-collar whites. Trump has spent his whole live avoiding having to live with or associate with blue-collar people. Trump routinely stiffed blue-collar people and refused to pay them because he could get away with it.
The truth is unions helped create the good paying jobs for blue-collar people, but that made the cost of labor much higher in the USA than elsewhere in the world. Companies were forced to offshore manufacturing or go out of business. That is the way Capitalism works.
The Republican party is very pro-business and anti-labor. I don’t think Trump is all that different. The Republican party used social and cultural issues to convince blue-collar people to vote against their economic self-interest for the last 50 years. Trump just did a better job of marketing social and cultural resentment than previous Republicans.
mikeca
November 23, 2016 at 11:57 AM
Transgender bathrooms are the next phase of the war against the evil inequality
The Left is not at war with inequality. If they cared about inequality they would care about poor whites. The Left is at war with normality – which it regards as evil, including all its manifestations, including heterosexuality, the Church, the family, and the nation.
Tarl
November 23, 2016 at 2:22 PM
I think that liberals have a point wrt lower class whites. At least they do in England, where I live.
Every young person is given no end of opportunities, with teachers and advisers at school and college, to better themselves and get on some career path. In some schools each child has an ipad, ffs! If they nevertheless wind up unemployed or known to the criminal justice system then there has to be something wrong with them.
martin2
November 23, 2016 at 4:42 PM
People need to have a meaning in life, iPad can’t provide that.
Yakov
November 23, 2016 at 5:05 PM