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Steve Sailer in New York Magazine

Read article here.

Don’t have time right now to say more.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

May 1, 2017 at 8:01 AM

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  1. What, no hat tip?

    ScarletNumber

    May 1, 2017 at 8:14 AM

  2. It’s really a perceptive and “nice” article except for throwing in words like “divisive” and “sinister”.

    CamelCaseRob

    May 1, 2017 at 9:19 AM

  3. The article largely promotes Sailer, only being sparsely peppered by requisite but fairly mild ideological protests.

    Also, note the use of the term “New Right” in the headline of a liberal mag. It may have been used before by them, but I haven’t seen it. It seems like an announcement (acknowledgement) of the term, and it seems to have more inherent legitimacy than “alt right”. Soon, it will just be “the Right”; a prediction that also coordinates with the theme of the article (strangely enough).

    The article is strikingly sober (for them), which is a good sign. (Note that one of the author’s name is “Park MacDougald”, a name with clear class implications).

    The authors seem to be genuinely flummoxed by the direction of things, in that their plea for a change of direction is wholly unsupported by convincing (or any) argument and seems weak in general.

    In all, this article seems to be a positive sign for us. Was that its intention? I admit to having a personal bias toward a conspiratorial opinion that most of these media outlets are not independent of a greater and centralized social engineering effort. So, I tend to read into any change in the tone of propaganda.

    Dave

    May 1, 2017 at 10:10 AM

    • “Note that one of the author’s name is “Park MacDougald”, a name with clear class implications”

      ————————————————–

      What class implications does it have? Is he half Scottish and half Korean?

      Rosenmops

      May 2, 2017 at 12:31 AM

      • @Rosenmops,

        On the alt right a person’s blood quantum decides whether you believe him or not.

        gothamette

        May 2, 2017 at 12:01 PM

    • Authors name also has clear racial implications. Had the author been another race of man it qould have been far more hostile using lies, 2 card montys, semantics and rhetroic which would touch of the chimeric image anchors inserted in most of the sheeps heads since adolescence and make them feel angry.

      The Philosopher

      May 2, 2017 at 4:33 AM

  4. “creating a demand for people who are indifferent to the castigation that normally deters the airing of sometimes wrong, sometimes merely inconvenient ideas.
    ….
    This is a future we should try to avoid.”

    noted

    Lion of the Turambar

    May 1, 2017 at 11:03 AM

    • It isn’t mere castigation over inconvenient thoughts, it is full on scapegoating and slander of whites for the purpose of maintaining a de facto reparations regime for underperforming minorities. What will the minority voters do when the reparations (spoils) disappear?

      The best part of the article, acknowledging that Left policies are identitarian (as opposed to noble) and describing the New Right as simply a response in kind. The worst part, marginalizing his citizen I and describing his positions as ‘raw white nationalism.’

      Curle

      May 1, 2017 at 9:37 PM

  5. Back of the line, Paul MacDougald. I was into Steve Sailer before it was cool. About 18 years before … and counting …

    Greg Pandatshang

    May 1, 2017 at 11:05 AM

  6. Thought it was a genuinely fair & balanced article, including Steve’s less attractive qualities. I noticed that the writers left the JQ out of it, focusing on the race aspect. I guess I’m just as happy about that….although I do think Steve gets a lot of Jewish history wrong. Not inaccurate, skewed. I’m always surprised that he knows nothing of the Puritan hypothesis.

    gothamette

    May 1, 2017 at 11:52 AM

    • Frankly I was surprised at how fair and balanced it was. I would have assumed a hatchet job.

      Mike Street Station

      May 1, 2017 at 12:50 PM

    • “I’m always surprised that he knows nothing of the Puritan hypothesis.”

      You mean that line of thinking that Whiskey is constantly promoting? If that’s what you mean, then of course Sailer knows about it. He doesn’t push it because it’s stupid and wrong.

      peterike

      May 1, 2017 at 12:56 PM

      • I’ve never gone beyond the first two words in a Whiskey rant. I am referring to the Puritan hypothesis that TuJ promotes. Not sure where he got it from, but I recognize bits of DNA from the excellent book, AMERICAN NATIONS by Colin Woodard. As Woodard explains the cultural peculiarities of the Yankee nation, it makes a lot of sense.

        What is stupid and wrong is to blame Jews for the problems of the modern world. Jews just basically take on the characteristics of the elites that surround them and send them back in exaggerated form. Do some reading peterike. Read about Confederate Jews, and the Jews who were leaders of the Know Nothing party. Do you have the brains to do that? I didn’t think so. The alt right is full of jerks.

        gothamette

        May 1, 2017 at 3:49 PM

      • Ultimately it comes from David Hackett Fisher’s book, “Albion’s Seed”.

        GondwanaMan

        May 1, 2017 at 8:43 PM

      • “What is stupid and wrong is to blame Jews for the problems of the modern world.”

        100% truefact. I completely agree with this to the point I turn red in the face saying it to intolerant commenters like Jorge Videla and so on.

        0 Pinocchios.

        The Philosopher

        May 2, 2017 at 9:14 AM

      • This interesting question is who could it be if the establishment keeps bashing white men. Obviously they are white men. So why would the establishment keep selling magic negro to their women. Any ideas?

        The Philosopher

        May 2, 2017 at 9:15 AM

      • @Gondwanaman,

        I wasn’t aware of that. I thought that DHF’s book concerned only Anglo folkways in the South. I tried reading it once and it was out of my league. My go to book about American culture is Woodard’s American Nations, which ironically I learned of on a hate site. Go figure.

        gothamette

        May 2, 2017 at 12:03 PM

      • I am referring to the Puritan hypothesis that TuJ promotes.

        Not quite.

        With the assistance of an Austrian friend I expanded Moldbug’s Puritan thesis to the French. Communism and Progressivism were both founded in Gaul –

        https://pragmaticallydistributed.wordpress.com/2016/09/07/how-comte-overthrew-marx-part-i-introduction/

        Is it necessary to give a proof of this last fact ? We think we have furnished it in remarking that one of the sentiments most natural to man, that of nationality, is erased from the Liberal catechism, and that where the word is still employed, it is used by the heads of the party as a pretext to enchain Governments, or as a lever to bring about destruction. The real aim of the idealists of the party is religious and political fusion, and this being analysed is nothing else but creating in favour of each individual an existence entirely independent of all authority, or of any other will than his own, an idea absurd and contrary to the nature of man, and incompatible with the needs of human society.

        https://pragmaticallydistributed.wordpress.com/2017/02/07/how-comte-overthrew-marx-part-ii/

        Jacobin ideology was much like Proletarian Socialist ideology, the latter of which reached its culmination with the Russian Revolution. Just as Proletarian Socialist theory resembled Jacobin theory the path of the Russian Revolution closely followed that of its French predecessor, but for two exceptions: Industrial policy and class.

        Industrial economics was ignored by the French Revolutionaries simply because heavy industry either did not exist in late 18th century France, or whatever industry there was did so in only a very embryonic form compared to what it would be by the second half of the 19th century. In the absence of factories to nationalize, the Jacobins instead nationalized the wealth of the Church and aristocracy with the instrument of l’Assignants. But if industry had existed, French radicals would have been sure to prelude the Bolsheviks by bringing those valuable assets into their hands.

        Likewise, the class war tenets of the Jacobins and their allies in 1789 were not developed to the extent they would be by the Russian Revolution. In the then quasi-Medieval organization of French society the middle class was grouped with the working class under the Third Estate. It was because both the middle and working classes felt their rights were denied to them by the clergy and nobility that the middle class joined the proletariat in radicalism. The participation of the French middle class is one of the facets of the Revolution making it unique among all others because it is the only one that won the broad favor of the middle class.

        After the middle class had been awarded greater property rights it never again as a class became radicalized. Correctly anticipating the middle class was pacified for good, Marx, Engels, and other Proletarian theorists like Kroptokin, Dzietgen and Proudhon specifically defined their Socialist movements as proletarian.

        But for industrial and class theory, the First French Republic was very much the Soviet Union of the 18th century. This is true to such a degree that the French Revolution deserves to be labeled pre-Industrial Communism; its initiatives and subsequent consequences confirm this conclusion –

        The declaration of war by the First French Republic against all Monarchies and even against those nations with the most established histories of Republican government (Hamilton).

        France professing eternal hatred to kings was to be the tutelary Genius of Republics—Holland, Genoa, Venice, the Swiss Cantons and the United States, are agonizing witnesses of her sincerity.
        Of undone Holland no more need be said; nothing remains for us but to exercise tender sympathy in the unfortunate fate of a country which generosity lent its aid to establish our independence, and to deduce from her melancholy example an instructive lesson to repel with determined vigor, the mortal embrace of her seducer and destroyer.
        Genoa, a speck on the Globe, for having at every hazard resisted the efforts of the enemies of France to force her from a neutral station, is recompensed with the subversion of her government, and the pillage of her wealth by compulsory and burthensome contributions.
        Venice, is no more! In vain had she preserved a faithful neutrality, when perhaps her interposition might have inclined the scale of victory in Italy against France.

        The seizure of French farmland was naturally followed by food shortages echoing Stalin and Mao’s regimes.

        Economic mismanagement spurring Hyper-inflation worthy of Soviet Russia.

        Stalinistic show trials with accusations of different radicals being ‘counter-revolutionaries’.

        As described by Hamilton, from the beginning the French Revolutionaries, like the Russian Revolutionaries a century later, sought the violent elimination of Christianity.

        Equal pains have been taken to deprave the morals as to extinguish the religion of the country, if indeed morality in a community can be separated from religion. It is among the singular and fantastic vagaries of the French revolution, that while the Duke of Brunswick was marching to Paris, a new law of divorce was passed; which makes it as easy for a husband to get rid of his wife, and a wife of her husband, as to discard a worn out habit. To complete the dissolution of those ties, which are the chief links of domestic and ultimately of social attachment, the Journals of the Convention record with guilty applause accusations preferred by children against the lives of their parents.
        It is not necessary to heighten the picture by sketching the horrid groupe of proscriptions and murders which have made of France a den of pillage and slaughter; blackening with eternal opprobrium the very name of man.
        The pious and the moral weep over these scenes as a sepulchre destined to entomb all they revere and esteem. The politician, who loves liberty, sees them with regret as a gulph that may swallow up the liberty to which he is devoted. He knows that morality overthrown (and morality must fall with religion) the terrors of despotism can alone curb the impetuous passions of man, and confine him within the bounds of social duty.

        Robespierre mused that at least 10 million French citizens out of a French population of 25 million would have to be executed to bring about his Utopia (Gentz)- we now know from the examples of Stalin and Mao that 10 million is just the opening bid.

        In the year 1793 the thirst for destruction had gone so far, that it was at a loss for an object. The well known saying, that Robespierre meant to reduce the population of France by one half, had its foundation in the lively sense of the impossibility of satisfying the hitherto insatiate revolution, with any thing less, than such a hecatomb.
        When there was nothing more left in the country to attack, the offensive frenzy turned itself against the neighbouring states, and finally declared war in solemn decrees against all civil society. It was certainly not the want of will in those, who then conducted this war, if Europe preserved any thing, besides “bread and iron.” Fortunately, no strength was great enough long to support such a will. The unavoidable exhaustion of the assailants, and not the power or the merit of the resistance made, saved society; and, finally, brought the work shops themselves, where the weapons for its destruction were forged, within its beneficent bonds again.

        In the wake of the Revolution, Metternich mentioned in 1834 there was a “dialectical school” already in existence.

        Neither did he approve of man’s energies being wasted in attempts to penetrate the ultimate causes of things, since all that man can do, he said, is to observe and note phenomena. It was absurd to puzzle ourselves about the why and because (‘ das Wie und Warum’). I mentioned to him the difficulty I had experienced in arguing with professed disciples of the dialectical school. He said it was perfectly useless to dispute with such and that the only way was to silence them at once by some clinching method.

        Sexual libertinism – Hamilton above mentions easy divorce, Metternich records the rise of illegitimacy and out of wedlock births in Paris where the imposition of forcible de-Chistrianization was most thoroughly implemented. This all seems quaint by today’s standards (or lack thereof), but it was quite socially disruptive not just for the 18th century but up to the first half of 20th century.

        The population of Paris may be roughly stated at 800,000. Of these 80,000 women and 10,000 men have no religion whatever.
        More than a third of the population is unbaptised. The proper business for the religious at the present moment is to introduce religion. In the Quartier de St. Genevieve — where the lowest classes of the people live — it may be said that out of twenty households one consists of married people. At least half of them are not even to be found in any civil register. The only thing that can have any effect here is a religious mission like those sent among savages.

        Metternich states the ultimate source of The French Revolution was the Reformation. For the purposes of this article we will be focusing on the French Revolution since, if we look back to the Reformation, I suspect what we will see are simply Christian Jacobins.

        My proposals are confined to the discipline of the universities, and do not at all touch the studies themselves—two questions which are very closely related, but yet in the present discussion necessarily separated. If we meddle with the latter, nothing at all will be done, and a letter from Müller sufficiently points this out to me, in which in speaking of this affair he observes ‘ that the disorder in the universities proceeds from the Reformation and that it can only be really set right by the recall of the Reformation.’ I deny neither the assertion nor its justice. But here on the Quirinal I cannot meddle with Dr. Martin Luther, and I hope that nevertheless some good will come of it without even touching its source— Protestantism. The last very excellent letter of Müller’s reminded me involuntarily of Golowkin’s proposition for the investigation of ‘ Causes primitives de la révolution française.’

        The Undiscovered Jew

        May 2, 2017 at 6:07 PM

    • “The New FAR Right”
      “infamous for applying, often in a blunt and inflammatory manner, such methods to alleged racial differences in intelligence and behavior………(HBD) despite winning a few lonely adherents in the academy, has been dismissed by critics as pseudoscience at best and eugenics at worst.”

      Fair and balanced? In the sense that it explains that he’s clearly a deluded racist but quite influential on the right? I suppose that’s what passes for “fair and balanced” in NYMag, but we shouldn’t give them a pass on it.

      gda

      May 1, 2017 at 1:03 PM

    • PS A question arises. This was a good article, which showed genuine respect for Steve’s idea of citizenism. I almost smelled these two young writers wanting to write that distinguishing between American citizens and foreigners who want to get into the club is simple common good sense.

      Meanwhile, the alt-right is losing its shit. They have turned against Trump 100%. They are now fully subscribed to the neo-Nazi program of violently fighting antifa protesters. They lie about the anti-antifas, saying they are just in favor of free speech, but that’s bullshit. The anti-antifas are neo-Nazis.

      So, what’s going on? I say that the alt right is and always has been made up of purely malicious haters, who never wanted to accomplish anything positive.

      gothamette

      May 1, 2017 at 1:37 PM

      • “I say that the alt right is and always has been made up of purely malicious haters, who never wanted to accomplish anything positive.”

        I see you cashed your check from the SPLC.

        peterike

        May 1, 2017 at 2:56 PM

      • You’re a fool and clearly either are in denial, or you actively support the Nazi alt right. At the recent demonstration in Pikeville, Kentucky, Matthew Heimbach called people likes, and said he thought Adolf Hitler was great. These are your friends. You get to live with them.

        gothamette

        May 1, 2017 at 6:55 PM

      • She’s right, although beating up antifas is fine and not the problem with the alt-right.

        IHTG

        May 1, 2017 at 6:47 PM

      • This was a good article, which showed genuine respect for Steve’s idea of citizenism.

        it’s just his word. it’s so obvious that it’s only a novel idea in a country like the US which has no labor party, just one globalist business party.

        frum613

        May 2, 2017 at 12:04 AM

      • What about The Proud Boys? Gavin McInnis’s Twitter says he’s pro-Israel and anti-Nazi. I was hoping they were a real not-Nazi group to fight BLM and Antifa.

        Rogal Dorn

        May 2, 2017 at 1:36 AM

      • McInnis was ridiculed and mocked for going to Israel. They called him a stooge.

        gothamette

        May 2, 2017 at 1:28 PM

      • why is it not understandable theyve mostly turned against trump? they havent 100% given up on him but its not looking good. trump is turning out to be an enormous dud. they’re right to call him out on it. just more boomer republican drivel. more focused on taxes and screwing people on healthcare than actually doing anything about immigration, which is WHY HE WAS ELECTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

        our enemies are purely malicious haters. they want us dead. we have to hate them and fight them. they want to turn my country into an overcrowded unaffordable big-population crap-pile with a degraded enviornment dogbox apartment filled urban sprawl and a white minority. you are attacking the wrong people.

        james n.s.w

        May 2, 2017 at 12:49 PM

      • i am a nazi if thats what it takes to get things done and not let the mercenary globalist elite roll over me and turn australia into shite.

        james n.s.w

        May 2, 2017 at 12:50 PM

      • “I am a Nazi” = “I am a crazed violent lowlife.”

        Too bad this blog doesn’t have an ‘ignore’ feature.

        gothamette

        May 2, 2017 at 3:45 PM

      • So it sounds as if he’s legitimately not a Nazi? So wouldn’t that make his group a non-Nazi group? Or is the “they” in “they called him a stooge” other people in Proud Boys?

        Rogal Dorn

        May 2, 2017 at 4:04 PM

      • What are we talking about now? I’m not saying McInnes is a Nazi, far from it. I’m referring to Heimbach, and some of his defenders on the alt-right. I’m specifically referring to the Nazi demo in Pikesville, KY. I provided links.

        gothamette

        May 3, 2017 at 12:36 PM

      • “why is it not understandable theyve mostly turned against trump? they havent 100% given up on him but its not looking good. trump is turning out to be an enormous dud.”

        I think it’s way to early to give up on Trump. The fact is, he is almost alone. There are probably less than a dozen elected officials in Washington who actually supports what he wants to do, and as far as the administration, it’s probably less than that. So almost everyone who works for him and gives him advice is out to destroy him. This is really unprecedented so I”m going to watch and see how this plays out before I declare Trump Cuck of the Week and going back to the black pill.

        Mike Street Station

        May 3, 2017 at 6:03 AM

      • Ad adult speaks.

        Has everyone forgotten the campaign? The things he said about immigration and trade, he can’t unsay. And that in and of itself is an achievement. Maybe someone else will have to do the job. But he showed the way.

        Trump singlehandedly blew away decades of PC shit. For this, he gets no credit from the crybabies of the alt-right. Whatever.

        Everybody should remember Obama. His first administration was rather cautious, and don’t say healthcare, because that was a house that deserved to be burned down. He did us a favor. It was Obama’s 2nd administration where he went batshit. Because he could.

        Trump will probably have to wait until a second administration to really get into gear. Meanwhile I enjoy the fact that the alt right has well & truly been marginalized (along with the Russian stuff – where did that go?).

        gothamette

        May 3, 2017 at 12:41 PM

      • So, what’s going on? I say that the Progressive Left is and always has been made up of purely malicious haters, who never wanted to accomplish anything positive.

        FIFY

        hard9bf

        May 3, 2017 at 7:49 AM

      • Mike Street,

        It’s too bad … if I were in Trump’s shoes, to me the fun part would be figuring out how to get as many of the good guys into the institutions as possible, building a team so that when Eric is president some day, he isn’t on his own. Trump does not seem inclined to be interested in that game. Hopefully, events will force his hand. If there ends up being an open civil war in the Republican Party, that’s tactically a disaster, but it would require Trump to build a Trumpist organisation with more people in it than just himself and Jared Kushner.

        Greg Pandatshang

        May 3, 2017 at 12:10 PM

      • Giving up on Trump…sigh….have you all not kept up with the masterful trolling about Jackson/Civil War? That meme is a common Sailerism (that the CW could/should have been avoided and was a waste of white men’s lives). That was pure Bannon. This impatience separates the proud men from the little boys.

        gothamette

        May 3, 2017 at 3:30 PM

      • A handful might be WN’s, but I’d say most are just people who are tired of seeing white Americans being beaten up by thugs and treated unfairly by government and the press. Hell, “Based Stick Man” Kyle Chapman, an icon of the alt-right, has an Asian wife, so I doubt he’s a Nazi.

        The cops aren’t doing anything to stop it, and backing down has only emboldened the bastards. Much like the Terminator, you can’t reason or bargain with them. They don’t feel pity or remorse. All they understand is force. Trump himself is the ultimate demonstration of this. He’s been backing down since the night he won the presidency and is almost completely subdued at this point.

        Stealth

        May 3, 2017 at 8:47 PM

      • I don’t think you’re being clear eyed about the Heimbach wing.

        As far as “based stick man” is concerned, he’s a creep who has a record. I’ve heard about his Asian wife, maybe it’s true, but it’s also true he went to that demonstration armed and ready to hurt people.

        What are you talking about “the cops aren’t doing anything to stop it” – the cops job is to keep peace at demonstrations. They are doing a good job under terrible pressure. Grow up.

        gothamette

        May 4, 2017 at 12:38 PM

      • I thought you were saying that all of the Rightist mobs are Nazis, so I was proposing that the Proud Boys are not. Are we in agreement about that?

        Rogal Dorn

        May 3, 2017 at 11:44 PM

      • “t’s too bad … if I were in Trump’s shoes, to me the fun part would be figuring out how to get as many of the good guys into the institutions as possible, building a team so that when Eric is president some day, he isn’t on his own.”

        The problem is that there are just not that many “good guys.” Particularly if you mean people who support Trump’s brand of populist nationalism. The only one who fit that description in the Senate was Jeff Sessions. Now there are zero people in the senate who fit that description. There just isn’t a farm team of people like that to recruit from. National Review successfully drove the last remaining ones out of politics years ago, and it will take years to build that up again.

        Mike Street Station

        May 4, 2017 at 6:25 PM

      • The problem is that there are just not that many “good guys.”

        I’m not sure we really disagree. I’m talking about creating a farm team. There’s a shortage of good guys if you’re talking about people already in elected office or filling prestigious appointed offices, etc. Creating a farm team means moving true believers into lower level offices so that some of them can later work their way up into the high-level spots. I’m aware of no evidence that Trump has taken any interest in this.

        Greg Pandatshang

        May 5, 2017 at 1:13 AM

      • “What are you talking about “the cops aren’t doing anything to stop it” – the cops job is to keep peace at demonstrations.”

        They’re not doing a good job of keeping the peace, then, are they? The police at Berkeley have been criticized relentlessly for just sitting back and allowing masked rioters to smash windows and hurt people.

        Know what, though? After meeting a little physical resistance during the brawl known as the Battle of Berkeley 3, the antifas got a lot more congenial. When right-wingers showed up to support Ann Coulter (who bailed on them), things were a lot more peaceful. As a preacher once told me, “a good ass-whooping gets everybody’s attention.”

        “The Right” is really just the old America. It never went anywhere. There are a few bad apples, just like in any group, but we’re going to keep on getting hammered if we just sit on our thumbs waiting for establishment conservatives to stand up for us. It won’t happen, which is why some people have picked up their swords.

        I’m not a Nazi – far from it. I do not like white supremacists, or the idea that the United States should be reverted back to being a white nation. What’s done is done, and diversity is here to stay. Everyone deserves respect and equal treatment.

        Stealth

        May 5, 2017 at 9:28 PM

      • @Stealth,

        I agree with you about most of what you say.

        The cops are civil servants.They do what they are told. In a civil society, it’s a hard call. There’s a side of me that would like to empower the cops to shoot the antifa, but that wouldn’t be good either. I don’t think the cops are pro-antifa, they are just between a rock and a hard place.

        I’ve been in demonstrations. I won’t ever go to one again because at this point the possibility of violence is, like 100%. When thousands of people get together, it’s a scary thing.

        Clearly, we need new tactics to deal with violent thugs. Masks are already banned. So should all weapons. Show up at a peaceful demo, get arrested. This has to come from above. The cops are just civil servants.

        gothamette

        May 6, 2017 at 10:59 AM

    • I wish Steve had never written that post-Katrina article. Without that “blacks need strict moral guidance” quote, he would be very difficult to smear as a racist. He’s generally good about keeping hate-y sound bites out of his writing.

      Seth Long

      May 1, 2017 at 1:51 PM

      • pish tosh- they would just mention VDARE.

        Besides right after Katrina they problemitized his review of “Get Out”. really it was never going be an endorsement or even neutral.

        Lion of the Turambar

        May 1, 2017 at 2:53 PM

      • ‘He’s generally good about keeping hate-y sound bites out of his writing.’

        Generally, but, fortunately for the Jews, he shows his true colors often enough.

        Yakov

        May 1, 2017 at 3:31 PM

      • He would have been on more solid ground if he had written that underclass blacks need strict moral guidance. As to the hillbillies JD Vance writes about.

        gothamette

        May 1, 2017 at 3:50 PM

      • The article made some good points, for example, about the folly of an evacuation plan that was based on a high crime, low trust community carpooling, but that was an unhelpful sentence.

        Part of the hate, though, was driven by anger at how Katrina kind of wrecked mainstream racial narratives. Here you had the storm of the century, coming with 5 days warning. You could literally have walked out of harm’s way in that time. And then the storm hits and, with the exception of some clueless foreign tourists, pretty much everyone who got caught in it was black.

        And the National Guard and Coast Guard rescuers were mostly white.

        As were the goodhearted Americans who took in black evacuees (“refugee” was a bad word then), including these Lesbians in Minnesota (the WSJ version of the story, which I can’t find now, ended with a quote from one of them, “I’m never helping anybody again”).

        Dave Pinsen

        May 2, 2017 at 3:24 AM

      • http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2005-11-27/news/INSKATRINAFAMIL_1_singleton-hurricane-katrina-tanya/3

        “Tanya and Tracey Thornbury say they underestimated the complexity of having so many people in their house.

        “I didn’t think someone’s going to come and try to take advantage of me,” Tanya said. “I just wanted to help someone. I think Dot and Nicole just weren’t ready for it.”

        Tracey said, “I won’t help anyone for the rest of my life. I won’t put my family through it.”

        Dot and her six grandchildren moved into a three-bedroom house in a working-class neighborhood of blacks, Hispanics and Asian-Americans in Minneapolis. A Twin Cities church has offered to pay rent and utilities for up to a year, and another church will provide food and other essentials.
        “

        Lion of the Turambar

        May 2, 2017 at 10:37 AM

      • “mainstream racial narratives” —

        Dave, did you hear about the Dustin Friedland murder?

        gothamette

        May 3, 2017 at 3:35 PM

    • I’m always surprised that [Sailer] knows nothing of the Puritan hypothesis…I am referring to the Puritan hypothesis that TuJ promotes.

      TuJ got it from Moldbug, and Sailer is well aware.

      http://www.unz.com/isteve/?s=moldbug&searchsubmit=Search&authors=steve-sailer&ptype=isteve

      https://foseti.wordpress.com/2014/01/06/review-of-unqualified-reservations-part-1/#comment-25170

      chedolf

      May 1, 2017 at 9:58 PM

      • Thanks for the links, esp. the one to “Foseti.” It reminds me why internet exchanges don’t go far. They are so suffocatingly dull. But it did contain the following quote, straight from Sailer:

        “But who in the 21st Century determines the direction in which the public’s witch-burning passions are pointed?

        There are religions older and, at least as religions, more successful than Calvinism.”

        He’s talking about Jews. Now, I know that a lot of right wing versions of the naming, shaming and blaming left don’t like me to bring up facts, but there it is. He doesn’t actually say it, but he trollishly implies it.

        I like Sailer, to a degree. He’s a clear eyed data analyst. But he’s not a deep thinker, and I don’t care to go deeply into his various theories here. Not worth it to me.

        gothamette

        May 2, 2017 at 1:35 PM

    • Rosenmops, easy solution: skip the comments on Steve’s page. Switch to Lion for your comment-reading needs. That’s what I do.

      Greg Pandatshang

      May 2, 2017 at 9:06 AM

    • I think his comments have just about the right amount of antisemitism. This blog has too little and every other alt rightish i’ve been to has too much.

      Magnavox

      May 2, 2017 at 11:20 AM

    • You sound like a liberal when you say you don’t read the comments over at Sailer.

      I agree with Magnavox. Sailer’s blog comments have just the right amount of anti-Semitism

      ScarletNumber

      May 2, 2017 at 9:38 PM

  7. It was a good article all things considered, although I disagree with how it characterizes Steve Sailer’s views on race and intelligence as arising out of bitterness or ill will towards other races.

    Whatever happened to looking at evidence and data and coming up with your own conclusion?

    Sid

    May 1, 2017 at 1:09 PM

    • I’d settle for the other side simply looking at the evidence. . . ever.

      Curle

      May 1, 2017 at 9:42 PM

    • “Whatever happened to looking at evidence and data and coming up with your own conclusion?”

      The 1960s happened and it’s resulted in a worldview of mind-numbing stupidity, which is enforced by a suffocating political correctness. Dozens of topics are off limits and all explanations are environmental. It’s the victim’s coalition against the evil white race. Simplistic nonsense but that’s what it comes down to. Sailer is a response to this propaganda.

      Lewis Medlock

      May 2, 2017 at 10:28 AM

  8. This article is a huge deal! A few more and Sailer is legit.

    Yakov

    May 1, 2017 at 1:31 PM

    • I don’t know. more like a target

      not too late

      May 2, 2017 at 12:50 PM

      • What I mean is that once his name gets out, converts will follow. I was a clueless blank slate beleiver myself until I stumbled on HBD bloggers like Lion and HBD Chick. Almost instantly things started falling into places.

        Yakov

        May 2, 2017 at 8:06 PM

    • Sailer is officially legit (TM) when Limbaugh name-drops him like he does the Drudge Report.

      hard9bf

      May 3, 2017 at 7:56 AM

      • If that happens, it will be big.

        Mike Street Station

        May 4, 2017 at 6:27 PM

      • Rush will not name-drop Sailer because that would put his career in jeopardy.

        Lewis Medlock

        May 5, 2017 at 10:05 AM

    • Sailer will never be legit because he’s on the wrong side of too many pc issues. Leaving aside the JQ he’d be smeared as racist, sexist, and islamophobic Because he argues that genes matter, he’ll always be regarded with fear and contempt by the left as well as the majority of the mainstream right.

      Lewis Medlock

      May 5, 2017 at 1:07 PM

  9. I love Steve Sailer, inpart because he reminds me of a mid-western, goyish version of Lion. And in case anybody’s missed this, Milo Yianopolous is starting a new media company. Below is Vanity Fair’s uncharitable take on it:

    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/milo-yiannopoulos-new-media-venture

    Roli

    May 1, 2017 at 4:18 PM

  10. From the Sailer profile in New York magazine: “elect a new people,” a paraphrase of Bertolt Brecht describing an alleged liberal plot to re-engineer the country’s demographics.

    That threw me for a loop till Google came to the rescue. It refers to Brecht’s 1953 poem “The Solution”:

    The people have lost confidence
    In the government,
    Which can win it back
    Only by redoubled efforts.

    Would it not be easier
    In that case
    For the government
    To dissolve the people
    And elect another?

    New York mag’s language is inaccurate. Sailer’s use of “elect a new people” facetiously refers to a liberal plot here in the United States. Brecht, though, was satirically referring to a Communist plot, specifically a plot by officials of the German Democratic Republic.

    My apologies if this is redundant news to everyone.

    Mark Caplan

    May 1, 2017 at 5:06 PM

  11. The so-called JQ is the heart of the alt right. A large percentage of Steve’s posts are about Jews. Don’t blame the messenger.

    gothamette

    May 1, 2017 at 6:50 PM

    • That’s a different take. Personally I don’t feel like alt-right has anything inherently to do with Jewishness. Just with overturning falsehoods (that race & sex are irrelevant qualities, that liberalism is intellectually honest or morally superior).

      The Nazi/Jew-obsessed commentariat are like stopped clocks. There might be some validity to what they say, but they’re also clearly mentally deranged losers.

      Panther of the Blogocube

      May 1, 2017 at 10:35 PM

      • I think a lot of White gentiles in America are just plain dumb, even those among the upper middle class and up.

        There is a reason why there is so much inequality in America.

        JS

        May 2, 2017 at 10:11 AM

      • Normals would say the same about HBDers commenting on blacks.

        Dave Pinsen

        May 2, 2017 at 12:19 PM

    • I don’t think most Trump supporters have anything against Jews, These two sites might be described as alt right, but they are pro-Israel, as are the comments. :

      https://www.blazingcatfur.ca/

      http://www.weaselzippers.us/

      Rosenmops

      May 2, 2017 at 6:33 PM

      • @Rosenmops,
        I agree. I’m not referring to Trump supporters at all. I’m a Trump supporter. I think we should cut him some slack until his 2nd Admin, if it ever happens. I’m referring to the hard core alt right which supports Matthew Heimbach’s goon squads in Pikesville. You all should read up about this, because it will happen again.

        gothamette

        May 3, 2017 at 12:38 PM

  12. I am shocked at how fair and rational this article was. A good sign.

    B.T.D.T.

    May 1, 2017 at 10:13 PM

  13. OT – liberal hypocrite Samantha Bee involved in racial wrangling over school integration in upper west side:

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/schooled/2016/06/17/the_upper_west_side_is_new_york_s_latest_school_integration_battleground.html

    Camlost

    May 1, 2017 at 10:50 PM

    • She seems like really an odious woman.

      Two in the Bush

      May 2, 2017 at 12:00 AM

    • Food, clothing and “toys” are now relatively cheap and available to anyone. A criteria that separates the haves and the have nots is expensive real estate in expensive neighborhoods with expensive private schools.

      Without NAMs and low IQ undesirables, America becomes more affordable and liveable. It’s simple as that.

      JS

      May 2, 2017 at 12:15 AM

      • Australia and Canada have relatively few NAMs but increasingly expensive real estate, due to Asian immigrants bidding up prices.

        Dave Pinsen

        May 2, 2017 at 2:47 PM

      • Australia also has the vast majority of its population crowded into just a few expensive urban centers. That degree of population density isn’t really possible in the US precisely because of the underclass of NAM violence that pervades urban centers.

        Panther of the Blogocube

        May 3, 2017 at 2:49 AM

      • It’s quite fascinating that American capitalists have made enormous amount money on the NAM problem. They welcome it, because it’s darn lucrative. Just look at law enforcement and anti-terrorism measures. They are multi-billion dollar industries/complexes.

        JS

        May 3, 2017 at 9:27 AM

      • Australia also has the vast majority of its population crowded into just a few expensive urban centers. That degree of population density isn’t really possible in the US precisely because of the underclass of NAM violence that pervades urban centers.

        Sydney’s population density is less than that of Los Angeles or San Francisco: http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/largest-cities-density-125.html

        The reason Australia has most of its population clustered in and around a handful of cities is because most of its interior is an arid wasteland.

        Dave Pinsen

        May 4, 2017 at 1:41 AM

    • I wish Trump would do something to force integration on white liberals

      Otis the Sweaty

      May 2, 2017 at 5:31 AM

  14. A variation on the Hott Chix with Big Gunz videos: two cute chix (one of whom knows nothing about shooting), an Alpha Male, and a scrawny Beta shoot ridiculous objects out of shotgun shells.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    May 2, 2017 at 12:14 AM

    • I wouldn’t call the non-scrawny guy an “alpha.” More of a greater beta.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      May 2, 2017 at 7:43 AM

      • Remember all this “alpha male” talk always has homoerotic overtones.

        Alpha/beta/omega are simplistic categories but they all are informed by some kind of sex fantasy.

        Usually:

        alpha = gay fantasy figure male

        beta = chubby workadaddy with kids and a crummy job

        omega = total loser, bad genetics, sexual turnoff, blob, or skinny low t wimp.

        Rifleman

        May 2, 2017 at 10:27 AM

      • I believe he is the husband of the brunette woman, and she’s definitely cute. It’s a pity he never taught her how to hold a shotgun. The blonde chick is the sister of Matt, the owner of Demolition Ranch, I’m not sure how the Beta figures into the mix.

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        May 2, 2017 at 1:34 PM

      • The greater beta is the younger brother, at least ten years younger, of the alpha male.

        This guy is extremely successful on YouTube, probably makes 300k + from his three highly successful channels and is a practicing veterinarian.

        BigusDictus

        May 4, 2017 at 10:43 PM

    • can’t tell if the chicks are hot from that video cause too far away, but they look promising.

      I agree the muscular guy is a greater beta, not an alpha

      Otis the Sweaty

      May 2, 2017 at 11:02 AM

  15. Total hit piece. They called him a pseudoscientist and best and a eugenicist at worst. They’re saying he’s Hitler. It doesn’t matter how “nice” a write-up is if you get those digs in. Those are the parts people walk away with.

    Dave

    May 2, 2017 at 7:56 AM

    • People are so used to getting slagged by the media that when one of them balks at gouging out an eyeball while giving a beatdown in an alley they’re thrilled at how “decent” he was. It’s a quirk of right wing psychology; Sailer himself has often praised journalists for being fairly even-handed in their writing about XYZ when all they really did was avoid firing some of the weaker cheap shots.

      Richard

      May 2, 2017 at 11:04 AM

    • People who write for the NY Times lack the vocabulary to write it any other way. This wasn’t a hit piece. Just a belated recognition of reality. In a world where Infowars and The Daily Stormer now dwarf the page views and influence of National Review and the Weekly. Standard and Richard Spencer and Gavin McGinnis are leading street battles against AntiFa on a near weekly basis, the long-standing injunction against mentioning Sailer’s name makes little sense. So they are going back and writing a story they should have written a decade ago. Like the story itself sort of admits, the NY Times is starting to realize Sailer’s non-explicitly ethnocentrism “Citizenism” is perhaps the best possible future of the dominant white political ideology that they can hope for.

      PerezHBD

      May 2, 2017 at 12:36 PM

      • The Sailer article is in New York magazine, not The New York Times. No connection to The New York Times nor The New York Times [Sunday] Magazine.

        Mark Caplan

        May 2, 2017 at 2:04 PM

  16. Not too bad, at least for the NYT, in spite of the dark reference to “sinister racial overtones.” Of course, since liberals believe that the country is divided into two groups – themselves and “racists,” not surprising.

    In a related vein, lots of NYT readers are cancelling their subscriptions because the paper has hired “conservative” columnist Bret Stephens away from the WSJ. I subscribe to the WSJ and used to read Stephens’s columns, but I never cared for him – he is vehemently anti-Trump and very pro-open borders. The latter position is fully in accord with the globalist mentality of the WSJ editorial pages, but apparently the former caused him some problems. In his very first column, Stephens questioned the dogmatic leftist belief in global warming (oops! – “climate change”). His column seemed rather mild to me, but apparently it outraged the true believers in the pews of the NYT Cathedral.

    The NYT prides itself on running columnists such as Douthat, Brooks and now Stephens, but they constitute the sort of lukewarm “conservatives” who are acceptable to the MSM liberal elitists because they are not very threatening. When I start reading the likes of Sailer, Coulter, Buchanan and Derbyshire in the NYT, well, hell, I might even subscribe. Not bloody likely, though.

    Black Death

    May 2, 2017 at 10:58 AM

    • The Sailer article is in New York magazine, not The New York Times.

      Mark Caplan

      May 2, 2017 at 2:06 PM

    • The only conservatives who are acceptable to the NYT are open borders/pro-gay marriage/pro-abortion types. These conservatives are on the same page with liberals on many issuers and are regarded as “educated” and non-threatening. They have generally gone to the same schools as the liberal elites and move in the same social circles.

      Any person on the right who offers a non-pc viewpoint on open borders, black crime, Islam, feminism, gender differences, LGBTQ, climate change, etc. will be marginalized as a narrow-minded hatemonger.

      Lewis Medlock

      May 3, 2017 at 12:02 PM

  17. I must have hit a nerve. Red pilled? I know what it means but I don’t use cult language, or gang signs.

    gothamette

    May 2, 2017 at 11:59 AM

    • The JQ is a gang sign, more or less.

      Big doughnuts

      May 2, 2017 at 3:33 PM

  18. steve never even talks about citizenism. he doesnt really care about it, he brought it up once but has never really made the idea a central aspect of his worldview. its prob a cover and he is most likely an ethnic nationalist in the way jared taylor is, just not totally willing to out himself.

    james n.s.w

    May 2, 2017 at 12:42 PM

    • Sailer has made pretty clear this preference is for 1950’s style America. I wouldn’t call that “entho-nationalism”. Simply a return to what America always was prior to the insanity of the 1965 Immigration Act. Sailer is a moderate. Calling people like him “ethno-nationalists” is the reason actual ethno-nationalism is on the rise.

      PerezHBD

      May 2, 2017 at 3:52 PM

      • “Sailer has made pretty clear this preference is for 1950’s style America.”

        What a minute. That means an America without prayer rugs, only two bathrooms, and people who speak English. That’s positively terrifying!

        Lewis Medlock

        May 5, 2017 at 2:22 PM

    • That’s my impression as well. The citizenism thing doesn’t seem to really fit with his general attitude on things and his intense interest in race and genetics. He brought it up once in a debate with Jared Taylor and his main defense of it was on pragmatic grounds in the contemporary political climate.

      I don’t think it’s just that he doesn’t want to out himself, but that he’s also genuinely uncomfortable with some aspects of the white nationalist subculture. For example, while he engages in Jew baiting fairly regularly, I think he’s uncomfortable with the more extreme anti-Semitism that tends to pervade white nationalism. There are also elements of things like Nordicism and interest in more narrow and exclusionary genetic groupings in the wider white nationalist subculture that I think make him uncomfortable. He’s mentioned in the past that he was adopted and may be part Jewish or something. I think his affinity is for a broader, more inclusive and egalitarian white nationalism that doesn’t alienate people based on how Nordic or whatever they are.

      Tom

      May 2, 2017 at 4:00 PM

      • One issue where that creeps up is on attempts to change the census definition of white people. The historical American understanding was that Middle Easterners, North Africans and most Hispanics were white, and they have been tallied that way in the U.S. census since the 19th century. But nowadays that clashes with the multicultural spoils system AND the ambitions of white nationalists like Richard Spencer, who both believe they’ll benefit from more tribalization in America. Sailer has run several articles cautioning his readers about the effects on American society if the liberal politicians (because white nationalists have no political power) seeking this got their way, but his comments section shows this falls on a lot of deaf ears.

        Richard

        May 3, 2017 at 10:31 AM

      • @Tom,

        “I don’t think it’s just that he doesn’t want to out himself, but that he’s also genuinely uncomfortable with some aspects of the white nationalist subculture.”

        If you are referring to the white nationalists who openly call for exterminating Jews, I’d certainly agree, but isn’t that a rather low bar?

        BTW, I have read one of their bibles, Wilmot Robertson’s The Dispossessed Majority. You should give it a look. He’s such a maniac that Jacqueline Bouvier wasn’t white enough for him. She went off and married the Greek frog because she was essentially (and they are all essentialists) a Mediterranean mulatto who was doing what her hot blood told her to. Yes, they are that crazy.

        Compared to them, Sailer is the soul of rationality.

        “For example, while he engages in Jew baiting fairly regularly, I think he’s uncomfortable with the more extreme anti-Semitism that tends to pervade white nationalism”–

        But the quote from the website linked to indicates that he is familiar with the Puritan hypothesis and rejects it.

        I’m gonna talk in layman’s terms here about Jewish liberalism. There is a huge literature of respectable academic writing about American intellectual and cultural history, the most prominent of which is Albion’s Seed. Then there are many facts (uncomfortable to some) about Jews in the Confederacy, and the Know Nothing movement, and the history of Abolitionism, which had nothing to do with Jews. The simple fact is that Jews assimilate. And when they do, they take on the characteristics of the dominant culture, in exaggerated form. This is always accompanied by a breakdown of Jewish identity.

        Steve is smart enough to appreciate this, but he doesn’t. He resists this, and uses in gentle form many of the phrases and tropes of the malignant Kevin McDonald. So yeah, he’s uncomfortable with extreme anti-Semitism, but does he really reject it?

        This is my last word on the subject, because I’m not getting involved in another soul-sucking exchange about this.

        gothamette

        May 3, 2017 at 12:51 PM

      • “One issue where that creeps up is on attempts to change the census definition of white people. The historical American understanding was that Middle Easterners, North Africans and most Hispanics were white, and they have been tallied that way in the U.S. census since the 19th century. But nowadays that clashes with the multicultural spoils system AND the ambitions of white nationalists like Richard Spencer, who both believe they’ll benefit from more tribalization in America.”

        The Obama administration had been pushing to have Middle Easterners moved out of the “white” category. Apparently immigrant groups are well aware of Small Business Administration racial set asides for loans and grants and middle easterners want a piece of that action. It frankly pays to be non white in those circumstances. Hopefully the Trump administration won’t fall for it and will keep the MENA’s in the white category.

        Next stop, get rid of the census designation of “Hispanic.”

        Mike Street Station

        May 4, 2017 at 6:32 PM

    • How DOES one define the middle ground? I know a guy who believes any position to the right of ‘let in anybody anytime for any reason’ is a white nationalist.

      Curle

      May 2, 2017 at 9:26 PM

      • In mainstream discourse, there is no middle ground. That’s why the alt-right and other anti-pc movements have emerged. Many people cannot believe how idiotic and damaging political correctness has become. Nothing remotely negative can be said about any racial or ethnic group. Stating obvious truths without malice does not equal Nazism.

        Lewis Medlock

        May 3, 2017 at 12:24 PM

      • @Curle,

        That’s a good question. Here’s my definition: follow the fucking laws of the land. I don’t want to engage in useless finger-pointing but who was employing all these illegals? Left-wing college profs? No, business.

        @GondwanaMan,

        One of the bigger alt-right characters referred to slavery as “manageable.” I think what he meant was, after the South seceded, they should have exterminated the slaves. They realize that even for them, there are some red lines. And even if he didn’t mean extermination, he certainly meant continued subjugation. He is all in for it. He neither denies nor excuses slavery.

        gothamette

        May 3, 2017 at 12:56 PM

      • “One of the bigger alt-right characters referred to slavery as “manageable.” I think what he meant was, after the South seceded, they should have exterminated the slaves. ”

        That’s apparently what Argentina did. They genocided their slaves, and now are 97% white and the only thing the world dislikes about Argentina is it’s previous right wing juntas. Meanwhile the US carries the guilt of slavery forever.

        Mike Street Station

        May 4, 2017 at 6:37 PM

      • gothamette

        “That’s a good question. Here’s my definition: follow the fucking laws of the land. I don’t want to engage in useless finger-pointing but who was employing all these illegals? Left-wing college profs? No, business.”

        Many of these businesses were following the law which doesn’t always prohibit hiring illegals and sometimes encourages it. Generally speaking as an employer you are required to ask potential workers for proof that they are legally able to work in the US. However they can provide any of a list of documents some of which are easily forged as proof of eligibility. As long as the document isn’t obviously invalid (for example it has someone else’s picture) you are required to accept it. Strengthening this law would a more effective method of reducing illegal immigration than building a border wall.

        “… I think what he meant was, after the South seceded, they should have exterminated the slaves. …”

        This makes no sense. The South seceded in order to preserve their slave society not in order to destroy it.

        James B. Shearer

        May 6, 2017 at 1:53 AM

    • White nationalism in the US makes no sense. The descendants of black slaves, and native Americans have just as much right to this land as anyone. White nationalists in the US make no sense to me.

      That’s I’m more supportive of citizenism.

      GondwanaMan

      May 3, 2017 at 5:33 AM

      • Most white nationalists believe the US will ultimately be partitioned into white political entities, black political entities, etc.

        Richard

        May 3, 2017 at 10:34 AM

      • A white ethnostate in part of the U.S. could be achieved relatively easily if people wanted it by drawing a border around the Northwest. It wouldn’t be 100% white (even Idaho is home to lots of Mexicans nowadays), but you’d at least be back to where the U.S. as a whole was in the 1950s. Even better if it was Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine instead. Those states are super white. The problem, of course, is that these are also the leftiest of states, so they would regard a white ethnostate as anathema.

        There are also some decent-sized, contiguous chunks of the South that you could draw lines around where not many non-whites live. The problem there is that these are rural areas which I’m guessing have some of the lowest-functioning white populations in the country. So I don’t think the idea of disaggregating them from the rest of the South and the Union seems appealing to very many people right now.

        Greg Pandatshang

        May 3, 2017 at 2:04 PM

      • Northern Euros are inferior when it comes to integrating their subjects.

        Whites Americans (most of them whom are of British Isle ancestry) create cesspools and then blame the crap instead of their own undoing. The same happened in Germany, where Jews were emancipated in the 18th century and given free rights, only to culminate into the Holocaust in the 20th century.

        JS

        May 4, 2017 at 6:00 PM

      • Yeah the concept of white nationalism seems absurd when they can’t even agree who is white and who isn’t. The country is never going to be partitioned (at least on racial lines) so it’s an absurd fantasy. If they were serious they would move to Iceland.

        Mike Street Station

        May 4, 2017 at 6:39 PM

      • I agree that a hardcore white nationalism such as expelling large numbers from someplace based purely on non-whiteness could quickly become a mess because problems defining who is white. But it doesn’t seem controversial to say that the people in the Pacific Northwest or the northern half of New England are heavily white, so if you start there, you’ve got a heavily white population. Some other types of pro-white policies could probably be implemented without being a disaster. For instance, if we encouraged white South Africans to move here, would there really be any uncertainty about who that applies to? Only if the government employees implementing that policy deliberately made it so.

        At the end of the day, there are some hard cases in defining who is Jewish, but Israel manages to surmount those hard cases and have a Jewish nationalist state. Heck, the early United States had a stated policy of white-only immigration and no particular consensus about how to handle the gray areas, but that didn’t make that policy basically ineffective.

        Greg Pandatshang

        May 4, 2017 at 11:07 PM

  19. https://pragmaticallydistributed.wordpress.com/2017/05/02/the-security-trend-of-the-future-decomputerization/

    Recent fears about North Korean cyber attacks against American power grids as well as the publishing by WikiLeaks of advanced CIA and NSA hacking programs have proven again that any computer system is potentially vulnerable to an attack over the internet, no matter how advanced its cybersecurity may be.

    If an internet of everything means everything is exposed to sabotage then the time is now for security analysis of what strategically vital assets and infrastructure should either be removed from the control of computers, in part or in total. Because what can be hacked ultimately will be hacked given enough time and enough malicious nerds with too much time on their hands. There are many of these sinister forms of nerd; or at least enough for a nuclear power plant, or more, to suffer a core breach because ransomeware was not paid.

    Of course, a full return to non-computer machinery and manual processes is unlikely. Even inadvisable: If dams cannot be programmed into failing by some psychopath, another psychopath will try to destroy it with a hijacked plane, bomb, or some other traditional device. But that will at least require a different type of psychopath, a psychopath able to leave his room and handle exposure to sunlight. And, unlike a computer vulnerability across a shared network, without computers or a shared network the manual destruction of one dam cannot be part of a simultaneous electronic chain reaction in the computers of other dams.

    It does, afterall, pay to hedge one’s bets. Hedging the mix of digital and non-digital bets we’ve made in our portfolio of high priority systems is overdue now that there is good reason to think we have excessively slanted their operations in favor of automation.

    Some systems that deserve to have their degree of computerization reconsidered include:

    Prison Doors
    Power Grids
    Nuclear Plants
    Water Systems
    Nuclear Weapons
    Traffic Lights

    For the military decomputerization of their programs should be a highlight of their threat analysis. Should certain types of classified documents be written up on paper with typewriters and saved in filing cabinets instead of databases? Does Morse code have a future in military communications?

    The ordinary consumer market also must weigh balancing the risks and rewards of computerizing their products. Is it better for the manufacturers of digital clocks to have them operate on computer chips with pre-installed, non-updatable (i.e., not connected to the internet) computer code? Or no computer chip at all? Or car navigation systems. How vulnerable are they to having malicious code take control of the wheel?

    Like all tradeoffs there is no definitive answer; only the weighing of different kinds of risks against others. But the probabilities will have to be weighed with the understanding that greater reliance on computers brings proportionally greater risks of its own.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    May 2, 2017 at 6:15 PM

  20. “…. the jewstream media.”

    Thanks for sharing that.

    I must say, Lion, your blog has been no end of a lesson.

    gothamette

    May 4, 2017 at 12:31 PM

    • I delete lots of anti Semitic comments, that was an oversight.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      May 4, 2017 at 3:10 PM

      • OK. Much as I try not to let it get me down by telling myself these people are creeps and losers, it does.

        gothamette

        May 4, 2017 at 4:13 PM

      • Even the comments you agree with are from creeps and losers.

        Magnavox

        May 5, 2017 at 7:09 PM


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