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The slow-motion trainwreck

I can’t write about the pandemic without writing about how horrible Trump is. This is important for the audience of people who read this blog, because most of the readers are Trump supporters. I voted for Trump (but won’t make that mistake again). I was excited as anyone when he beat Hillary. Even though by the time of the election, I already know that Trump was full of shit on a lot of things and he didn’t even understand his own policy platform. I knew that Mexico was never going to pay for the Wall, but I was optimistic that the Wall would be built anyway. (Of course, no Wall was built.)

Maybe Trump is going senile. I hope he’s going senile because that would excuse me for voting for him. How could I have known in 2016 that he was going senile and was no longer the same person who he was when he was younger? If that’s really what’s happening.

Back in 2016, I was optimistic that Trump would become more Presidential once he actually became President. I can’t say that ever really happened, but during the last year especially he has declined into being even less Presidential than he was when he was running for office back in 2016. So maybe the senility explanation will hold up. Or maybe it’s just a Trump personality flaw that he retreats into bozoness when faced with adversity, and there has been a lot of adversity for Trump during the last year.

Maybe, if we are lucky, Tucker Carlson, one of the few smart people who understands and supports what a Trumpist national policy actually means, will run for President in 2024 and win. But that’s a real longshot.

But regardless, you Trump supporters need to STOP believing what Trump says and stop repeating his stupid talking points which have become more and more divorced from reality. Clearly, Trump is not able to process the reality of the pandemic. Trump supporters make excuses for Trump saying that the virus was a hoax, but it’s pretty clear that Trump truly believes that the virus is a fake narrative was made up by his enemies and the virus would go away if we just stopped paying attention to it.

How else do you explain Trump’s intentional sabotaging of our efforts to control the virus? Encouraging people to protest the shutdowns, encouraging people not to wear masks or socially distance, preventing the federal government from actually doing anything useful to coordinate our response to the pandemic, leaving it up to the governors of the 50 states, with each state doing its own thing.

The latest Trump talking point that this followers are repeating is that deaths have been going down, therefore everything is good and under control and we don’t have to do anything. To the extent that deaths have been declining because we have better treatments for the virus than we had back in March, that’s great, but it’s a dangerous assumption to make that that’s the only thing that’s happening and treatments will continue to get so much better that we can stop worrying about the pandemic.

The two major reasons why deaths have been declining despite rising cases (other than better treatments) are:

(1) Deaths are a lagging indicator. It takes a week before an infection because a reported case, and then another four weeks before a reported cased becomes a reported death. Thus the increase in cases that began in mid June haven’t had enough time to cause a large increase in reported deaths. Furthermore, because actual infections lag reported cases, and because infections increase at a geometric rate and not a linear rate, there could a big wave of infections that haven’t been reported yet as cases. So I have no doubt that an increase in deaths will come.

(2) The latest cases have been disproportionately young people because they have been the ones who have been going to bars and parties and protests. We know that young people have a much lower fatality rate than older people. But this doesn’t mean we can relax. Infected young people are still contagious and they will infect their older family members and “essential” workers. Also, it’s not yet clear that young people suffer no consequences from a mild case of the virus. It could be that a worrisome percentage of people, even young people, with mild cases of the virus could have longterm health consequences. The medical community is still learning about this virus.

Right now, the U.S. looks like a slow-motion train wreck. States with rising numbers of cases are shutting some things down, but I don’t think enough things are shutting down to lower the R0 below 1, which means that infections will still increase and hospitals will become full and there won’t be enough resources to treat everyone who’s sick, and not only will the fatality rate for the virus increase, but people will die from other causes because emergency healthcare won’t be available for them. Eventually there will be an “oh shit” moment and strict lockdowns will be instituted, which means we will be back to where we were in March, the last three months totally wasted, while in other countries they have gotten the virus under control and are able to SAFELY open up the economy because they have few cases plus robust contact tracing.

And about contact tracing: the U.S. also sucks at that. A combination of a “diverse” population that doesn’t voluntarily comply, and a lack of political will to get tough and make people comply.

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Apparently, another totally false Trump talking point that needs to be addressed is that the only reason there are a lot of cases in the U.S. is that we are doing a lot of testing.

Scott Gottlieb, former Commissioner of the FDA (appointed by Trump) shows that’s totally false:

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 7, 2020 at 11:43 AM

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  1. OK man, you’re from New York, it’s not like you’re making some monumental decision here.

    I think most of your audience has moved on from the virus to anti-wokeness.

    IHTG

    July 7, 2020 at 11:57 AM

    • “during the last year especially he has declined into being even less Presidential than he was when he was running for office back in 2016.”

      You mean back when has bitching about Mexican judges and Alicia Machado? Nah, not really. I do think he seems to be too busy/distracted to run some of the more interesting campaign initiatives that he did back then. He is president now, after all.

      IHTG

      July 7, 2020 at 12:00 PM

    • “OK man, you’re from New York, it’s not like you’re making some monumental decision here.”

      And where are you from?

      “I think most of your audience has moved on from the virus to anti-wokeness.”

      Reality exists whether you are interested in it or not. Luckily for us Lion’s not dependent on donations and so, unlike some people, *cough iSteve cough,* does not need to pander to the brigade of Clevons.

      Alexander Turok

      July 7, 2020 at 3:58 PM

      • If you want to attack positions past and present for perceived stupidity how did all that Bernie Bro and Yang Gang faggotry work out for you? How about Tulsi Gabbard the other loony leftist flavor of the month? All have proven to be establishment shills and Tulsi is retiring from Congress meaning she will have ZERO influence/power soon. Maybe you should stop wasting your time with controlled opposition and instead support Trump.

        Lion and his dummy commentators believed Dubya was a good president back in the day too despite him being the worst president in American history literally responsible for every problem we face today. He also made existing problems worse under his presidency as future problems were on the horizon. Their judgement is shit.

        Lion also supports neocon foreign policy and backed cuckservatives like Ted Cruz. Hey did he ever consider all our healthcare money was squandered on overseas wars? NOPE. He never liked Trump either in the primaries or the general election.

        I acknowledge 2020 has been a bad year for Trump but prior to that he was doing great. He was a strong and forceful candidate in the primaries and general. His presidency saw lots of reforms, a great economy, low crime rate, secure borders, reductions in both illegal AND legal immigration. Plus lots of other successes like no new wars and despite all of Trump’s bad appointments (they’ve been getting a lot better) he’s successfully remaking the federal judiciary and government institutions.

        Trump has been a productive and successful president prior to 2020. Even under the pandemic he did a lot better than the UK government which believed in stupidity like herd immunity. Unlike Joe Biden who is running his campaign from his basement, sounds demented, and looks like he has one foot in the grave already Trump looks healthy and strong. The powers of incumbency favor him easily especially after race riots.

        eradican

        July 9, 2020 at 2:38 AM

      • Yang was great. The “controlled opposition” comment is telling because it reveals the truth: the Left is still in charge. Trump hasn’t changed anything. Yang was never gonna solve the main problems, but at least he might have done something about, for example, the crushing cost of college tuition. That’s something Trump doesn’t care about, after all, his kids ain’t going to a public university. That’s the kind of stuff that actually interests me, not these twitter battles with celebrity thots.

        Why bring up Lion’s neoconservatism when Trump’s basically a neocon too at this point?

        bobbyfischer1488

        July 12, 2020 at 12:13 AM

  2. If the future, emergency management textbooks and classes will use the Trump Administratons response as a example of everything one is not suppose to do.

    If you want to remember what happened before Covid-19 hit the U.S. look at

    https://www.aspeninstitute.org/events/public-health-grand-rounds-at-the-aspen-institute-presents-coronavirus-the-new-pandemic/

    ONe of the points repeated by everyone on the panel is to have a consistent message and one is better off overresponding than underresponding.

    Image what would have happened if Trump had jump on the Covid-19 response with a consistent effort and actually worked to lower the number of deaths and the spreads.

    superdestroyer

    July 7, 2020 at 11:58 AM

    • Nonsense. These problems were decades in the making. You can’t ignore sixteen years of failure under Bush and Obama then pin all the blame on Trump whose candidacy/presidency was a repudiation of the two.

      Trump wanted to be another GOP president that was his only real problem when he was meant for much greater things.

      eradican

      July 9, 2020 at 2:44 AM

  3. Other countries have few cases because they don’t have the extensive testing regime that the United States has, which captures tons of mild cases, but hey don’t let the facts interfere with your pants shitting.

    There is no evidence this “coronavirus”, itself a member of the common cold variant of viruses, has any long term impact on anyone. The extraordinary claim that this particular virus does long term damage from a minor infection is for the pants shitters to prove and is not a burden for a prudent society to base large scale policy decisions upon.

    Paul Ryan’s Coronavirus Infected Lap Dog

    July 7, 2020 at 12:10 PM

    • Totally false Trump talking point. We have more cases because we have more virus.

      • The number of infections is about ten times the number of confirmed cases, according to the CDC. So increased testing will give a lot of positive test results, but it means nothing unless there is some reason to think that the number of infections is going up.

        If indeed the protests and summer activities have led to more infections, how is that Trump’s fault?

        Roger

        July 7, 2020 at 4:15 PM

      • The chart doesn’t really tell us much of anything. The majority of tests done in the US have been done in the past 30 days. When New York had its outbreak, there was hardly any testing at all. Had the rate of testing we are doing now everywhere been occurring in NY in late March the total cases would have been much higher. The reason NY has so few cases now is simply because they are ahead of the curve in terms of the timeline. Most of the US is right now in the phase NY was in March-April or that Sweden was at about a month ago. In another month, cases in the rest of America will will peter out.

        Even if Florida maintains current death rate for the next 30 days, that will have them finish with around 5,000 total deaths, which is 1/6th the 30,000 that died in NY. That is why the rest of the country doesn’t view this as seriously. Because for whatever reason, it wasn’t nearly as serious.

        PerezHBD

        July 9, 2020 at 9:43 AM

      • “Even if Florida maintains current death rate for the next 30 days, that will have them finish with around 5,000 total deaths, which is 1/6th the 30,000 that died in NY. That is why the rest of the country doesn’t view this as seriously. Because for whatever reason, it wasn’t nearly as serious.”

        I’m really starting to suspect that New Yorkers are just not capable of viewing this pandemic through any sort of rational lens due to the severity of the outbreak they experienced locally. Nor are they able to inculcate the way the fatalities break out.

        https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/almost-half-of-us-covid-19-deaths-are-linked-to-nursing-homes/

        Mike Street Station

        July 11, 2020 at 6:25 AM

    • Let him keep digging his heels in. It’s amusing.

      toomanymice

      July 7, 2020 at 2:30 PM

    • “itself a member of the common cold variant of viruses”

      And radon is a noble gas, what’s your point? The essential question is this: are there some questions where you need to have mathematical knowledge to determine the correct answer? Where if all you have is rhetoric and no math, you will be blindfolded, walking in circles?

      I’m not interested in hearing these rhetorical word-salads on coronavirus from commentators who haven’t done any math since they failed algebra in high school, just as I’m not interested in hearing their opinions on the structural integrity of a bridge. “Everyone’s entitled to an opinion?” I say no, they aren’t.

      Alexander Turok

      July 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM

  4. Trump’s done a bad job with the pestilence and a good job with immigration, so I’ll vote for him again because immigration is more important. Mass immigration permanently transforms a country.

    Wall or not, net immigration has gone down every year of Trump’s presidency, while it went up every year of Obama’s. All despite what was a booming economy and tight labor market under Trump.

    Ledford Ledford

    July 7, 2020 at 12:14 PM

    • Agreed.

      eradican

      July 9, 2020 at 2:51 AM

  5. [Of course, no Wall was built.]

    This is actually a very interesting video. Some guy spent 11 days filming wall construction along the border, via drone.

    Also please stop saying trump supporters think the virus is a hoax. By and large most trump supporters think the lockdown was excessive, politicized, and could long term cause more death and suffering than the virus itself, not that the virus is pretend.

    Most people I’ve encountered who think the virus actually is a hoax are conspiracy theorists who believe the whole system is rigged and support neither political party. Pizzagate types.

    toomanymice

    July 7, 2020 at 12:22 PM

  6. The BLM protestors had a major impact on increasing the cases of Covid-19.

    Not only did the massive crowds spread the disease but it also destroyed all credibility in experts.

    The same medical experts that were saying we needed to close businesses also said the protests were okay, likely in the name of political correctness.

    Now even normal people were like “that’s a load of BS” and rightful got fed up.

    kermitTheFrog

    July 7, 2020 at 12:42 PM

    • They’re even spreading articles around claiming that there’s scientific evidence the protests don’t spread the virus.

      Hermes

      July 7, 2020 at 4:45 PM

    • The BLM protestors have had almost no impact on the spread of corona virus. That is simply a fact. You can blame the Deep State, but it is also true that all those kids partying on beaches that get scoldingly passed around on social media also have had no effect. Trump’s South Dakota rally will also have no effect (but Tulsa will). If there is one thing about COVID that seems fairly certain it is that it does not seem to spread outside. It is hardly a coincidence that it hit the Northeast when it was cold out, and the South when everyone is huddling under air conditioning.

      Peter Akuleyev

      July 7, 2020 at 5:38 PM

  7. We need this blog in our life for other stuff then the pandemic all the time .
    I wish you wrote more about Saint George Floyd and the Progressive left crusade riots based on lies..
    Instead you seem to think we need a none-PC, HBD aware, independent thinking blog to tell us that coronavirus infections increase at a geometric rate and that young people seems to be less effected by it but can stiil pass it to old people . Thanks!!

    eyaldavid

    July 7, 2020 at 12:47 PM

    • Because the virus is the biggest news story of my lifetime, the protests are bullshit in comparison.

      Although if the police actually get defunded and there’s a massive increase in crime as a result, then maybe the riots will turn out to be the second-biggest news story, but that remains to be seen. I think that once Biden gets elected, they will forget about defunding the police.

      But right now, the protests are just part of the pandemic story, an example of our national dysfunction that we let protests happen when people were supposed to not be allowed to have large gatherings.

      • “the protests are bullshit in comparison”

        But the protests aren’t just about the protests themselves, Lion. It’s about everything that has gone along with it, and what it has revealed to us about the way the world works now and what our future looks like. You have media and politicians openly colluding with violence and engaging in deception in a way that has never been seen on this scale before. Law enforcement has been seen to openly side with left wing mobs and actually prevented white law-abiding people from defending themselves and property. The open attacking of white historical statues from Winston Churchill to Cervantes to American presidents to Jesus himself, simply because they are representations of white men. It’s a wholesale attack on the entire history of our countries by a hostile elite, who have gone from saying ‘race does not exist’ to ‘race exists and you are the wrong one’ in the space of a few days, and yes that is a bigger deal than a flu virus!

        prolier than thou

        July 7, 2020 at 1:48 PM

      • That particular “National dysfunction” can’t be pinned on the Donald.

        Joe

        July 7, 2020 at 2:27 PM

      • I agree with prolier than thou. Radical demographic transformation changes a nation a lot more than a virus with a less than 1% death rate, and thus the current wokeness pandemic is by definition a bigger story than the viral pandemic.

        Also, I’m not sure you’d still like Tucker Carlson. When the Wuhan Chinese virus first started, he was one of the only people at Fox News to take it seriously, but more recently he’s been arguing that the lockdowns have been unnecessarily restrictive and the panic overblown.

        Hermes

        July 7, 2020 at 4:48 PM

      • I agree with prolier than thou.

        destructure

        July 7, 2020 at 4:53 PM

      • The protests are actually a far bigger indictment of Trump and Trumpism then the botched response to COVID. Although there is a connection. Trump’s response to COVID made him look weak, indecisive and out of touch with reality. The left took advantage of that to pursue their agenda and took to the streets. Trump stupidly encouraged this divisiveness at first imagining that the unrest will help him with voters. It also didn’t help that he had already alienated most big city mayors and blue state governors and has no real allies in positions of power. The Alt Right can cry about the Deep State and how they hate Trump, but what good is a President who just looks weak? In reality his ineffectual response simply encouraged even more radicalization and has driven many moderate potential Trump voters to the left, as well as making the USA a laughingstock abroad (a fact that gets too little attention in US media). I don’t see how Trump can regain control of the situation given a second term. It might make sense for those sincerely seeking a new civil war but most conservatives have no interest in that.

        Peter Akuleyev

        July 7, 2020 at 5:30 PM

      • destructure seconds it, and I third it. This pandemic is our modern repeat of the Spanish Flu pandemic. The Spanish Flu killed more people than WWI, but which was the greater disaster historically? WWI helped give rise the the Soviet Union, and WWII. So it was far worse, even though the pandemic had a higher immediate death toll.

        What we see now in the culture war is a tipping point in the downfall of America, and possibly the West in general. My grandchildren won’t be totally fucked over because of COVID, however, they could be totally fucked because of demographic decline and neo-Maoism.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        July 8, 2020 at 1:52 AM

      • “destructure seconds it, and I third it. This pandemic is our modern repeat of the Spanish Flu pandemic.“

        More like our modern repeat of the Hong Kong flu of July ‘68 – Dec. ‘69. Killed 100k Americans. That would probably translate to 200k today. So far we have 130k Covid deaths.

        My dad got it and was bedridden for > week. Guess what. No shutdown. No handwringing. No masks. No hysteria.

        Time for people to grow up even if doing so makes you more susceptible.

        Curle

        July 9, 2020 at 12:47 AM

      • The protests and riots are the direct result of our leaders choosing to put millions of poor people out of work.

        A policy that people like LotB and Greg Cochran supported, stupidly. We still haven’t felt the full economic and political impact of these insane measures.

        Lowe

        July 9, 2020 at 8:42 AM

      • The lockdowns are the biggest story of your lifetime. The virus hasn’t turned out to be nearly as bad as predicted, and those predictions took the lockdowns into account. Every death is a tragedy, but the situation just isn’t as dire as you think it is. Also, I hope you think the lockdowns are worth it, because they’re probably here to stay, much like the war on terror and those body scanners at the airport. We now live in a police state.

        Stealth

        July 9, 2020 at 8:42 AM

      • “Because the virus is the biggest news story of my lifetime, the protests are bullshit in comparison.”

        I think we’re approximately the same age and this is an insane comment.

        Mike Street Station

        July 11, 2020 at 6:29 AM

  8. Fact: the US testing capacity is now at 700k cases per day

    Also fact: South Korea’s TOTAL testing up until today is 1.3 million.

    You really don’t think more testing would equate to more observable virus cases? Especially since most cases are mild and go undetected. You must also believe the total cases currently counted are the only cases out there otherwise there is no way you would believe such drivel. There’s anywhere from 10x to 85x the number of cases in the wild (CFR vs IFR) depending on which serum study or which sewer fecal matter study you choose to go with.

    Testing aside, only a complete idiot would believe you can contain an airborne easily transmissible virus in dense urban environments. With lockdowns, without lockdowns, it doesn’t matter. Humans have been at war with disease since the dawn of man. The microbes always win until we find efficient ways of killing them and not any sooner.

    I notice you haven’t written anything about how the coronavirus has essentially put a moratorium on all immigration until at least next year.

    Paul Ryan’s Coronavirus Infected Lap Dog

    July 7, 2020 at 1:15 PM

    • Trump is helping to turn the U.S. into a shithole country that no one will WANT to immigrate too.

      • It is already a sh!thole. No decent foreign national would want to move into one of our decrepit areas except to exploit others and enrich themselves. However, now with the pandemic still raging in Manhattan and the Bay Area, they are unlikely to set sight here.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 7, 2020 at 1:33 PM

      • Lion you are wrong again. US will always have more immigrants wanting to get into than any other country in the world. The financial opportunities that this country offers is off the charts compared to other developed western countries. Given an option of coming to USA or going to Sweden/France/Germany/Switzerland/Australia/UK, the choice is not hard at all. Its USA all the way.

        That being said, I do think that vacationing in Europe beats US. I think the best way to live is work for your living here in the US and vacation over there in Europe. 🙂 best of both worlds!!

        mpt

        July 7, 2020 at 6:24 PM

      • mpt – mpt (many prole turds) come to the USA, because it offers a shoddy consumption culture, where I see scores of them crashing into a retail mall or Walmart to stock up on inferior products when payday arrives.

        Western Europe (outside of the UK) offers better and classier products and tastier foods. So yes, while you can bank in America with a sh!tload of $$$, I can’t use that money to buy better products in my immediate vicinity. It’s significantly worse for people who live outside of the big urban centers, where you find is mostly corporate retail and corporate food chains.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 8, 2020 at 7:33 AM

      • mpt, this not true at all, what kind of opportunities the US gives that other western countries don’t give? if anything it is better to be an immigrant in Europe, you get free healthcare and higher education which can help you climb to the middle class if you are not an utter moron. The upper middle class is slightly richer in the US but for the middle class I would rather sacrifice a bit of richness to get the European safety, not to mention the lower classes. The only people who want to immigrate to the US these days are from third world countries and that’s because they will immigrate to any place that will give them a better life, you should see what Sudanese were willing to sacrifice in order to get into Israel to understand.

        Hashed

        July 11, 2020 at 6:55 AM

    • Yet China did so. You, sir, are a moron. #fact

      Alexander Turok

      July 7, 2020 at 11:42 PM

    • @PRCILD
      You’re a moron. Adjust daily number of cases for test positivity and you’ll see that true number of cases have been exploding since early June.

      You people have been throwing every pseudo-argument known to man to help the virus spread. Now that the results of your efforts are becoming apparent in the US, you say “[there’s no way] you can contain an airborne easily transmissible virus in dense urban environments.” Yet, many countries, ranging from low to high state capacity, have managed to stop outbreaks in cities using lockdowns. Even Spain and Italy, having badly mismanaged their initial response, are basically done with the virus, and can safely reopen — because they swallowed the bitter medicine of draconian lockdowns.

      Floomers were touting Texas, Arizona, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Sweden to argue that lockdowns are useless, that the CV follows its natural progression to herd immunity no matter what you do. I distinctly remember them arguing California was nearing herd immunity by the middle of May. Cases adjusted for test positivity have exploded since, and daily mortality numbers are setting new records in Arizona, and Texas.

      I’m guessing the floomers will shortly return to (1) outright denying all cause mortality numbers (the numbers are all fake!), (2) blaming excess deaths on “suicides from despair”, (3) blaming excess deaths on disruptions of routine medical treatments while maintaining that those treatments are killing more people than they treat.

      aswaes

      July 8, 2020 at 9:44 AM

  9. Trump is a bozo, you’re right. But you’ve been wrong about Coronavirus from the very beginning. The virus is just not very dangerous. We have a lot of data now and it has totally vindicated everyone who has argued that the policy reaction to the virus was way overblown. The virus is not that serious for the vast majority of the population. The longer this goes on, the more obvious this is going to become to everyone.

    Two in the Bush

    July 7, 2020 at 1:17 PM

    • This pandemic is a good thing. It serves as a catharsis effect for our society that is riddled with all kinds of redundant glut n smut or what we call BS. Lion would be celebratory once the Joisey Shore is officially cleared up of proles who would be normally basking on a summer’s sun, but cannot because of a stealth virus that isn’t too fatal, but lethal enough to cause concern.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      July 7, 2020 at 10:04 PM

  10. Look, mate, the Orthodox community was hit very hard by the virus because, as you had correctly noticed, they are morons when it comes to these issues. For the last month they are taking no precautions: they go to synagogue, socially mix, kids go to camp and not one new case has occured in our circle. For the first time since March I ate by my daughter on Sabbath and on the 4th of July there were 6 couples at the barbecue as if there were no corona. Could it be that they had acquired herd immunity?

    Yakov

    July 7, 2020 at 1:47 PM

    • That’s a genuinely interesting question, given how you say they are not socially distancing at all.

      Are they wearing masks in synagogue at least?

      • My mother is 95 and I wear a mask and don’t go to synagogue. I see people going in and out without masks, so the answer is probably no.

        Yakov

        July 7, 2020 at 2:25 PM

      • 50-70% of the population has cross immunity from prior coronavirus (common cold) infections). They will never show antibodies.

        Paul Ryan’s Coronavirus Infected Old Lap Dog

        July 7, 2020 at 5:09 PM

      • Give it some time. The protesters weren’t showing any symptoms a month ago and now there’s a connection with the sharp spike in cases in certain states due to the protests as the infected are significantly younger. NYC might not see a spike, but new infections are steady and not declining to near zero.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 7, 2020 at 5:22 PM

    • Spain just published a study showing basically no herd immunity after massive exposure to large segments of the population. Only thing I can say is that my English friend may be right that the virus is artificial. It just does not behave in a predictable way despite all the data we have gathered over the past six months.

      Peter Akuleyev

      July 7, 2020 at 5:16 PM

    • Yakov,

      I’m just going to say yes. They have heard immunity now. Nobody really knows yet if the immunity will wear off over time, but since they all got exposed only a few months ago, the’re still immune to the most common strain in New York.

      My family has been doing everything that is now recommended by the authorities (and more) since March 11th (yes we had PPE stockpiled even back then). I personally don’t have any COVID antibodies, and I’d be willing to bet that no one in my quarantine group does either.

      I’m really curious to see if a second wave hits New York at all. It’s possible that the people who didn’t take precautions were infected and have immunity, and the people who are taking precautions won’t contract it before a vaccine is distributed. Also, I’m not seeing any obvious connection between R0 and temperature/humidity.

      The data on COVID all points to it spreading exponentially regardless of outside temperatures, unless it’s stopped by social distancing, lock-downs, and masks/eye-pro/etc. Influenza (which is what we have been comparing COVID to) is mostly seasonal. So based on this, and other factors, I’ve decided NOT to dramatically increase my stockpiles in anticipation of a 2nd wave.

      Since Lion was in the group of most accurate prognosticators, I’m curious to know what he thinks about future mitigation strategies.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      July 8, 2020 at 2:24 AM

      • You can mitigate the spread of the virus, but you can’t eradicate it, because there is no vaccine. If there is no vaccine, and the germ lingers, then the utmost survival of the fittest is to determine who lives the longest. Sort of like Khan in Star Trek who was banished to a planet that became inhospitable and the only abundant lifeforms were his pet eels – a neural-parasite that kills you if you are unlucky to have one of them crawl inside your ear.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 8, 2020 at 9:26 AM

  11. Lion, you’re a making a mistake not voting for Trump. Even accounting for his many shortcomings and failures, he is the only candidate for the executive branch willing to act on immigration. If *anyone* else gets in, you’ll have the polar opposite of an immigration restrictionist. The Dems will burst open the floodgates (“to make up for lost time”) and, with the support of big business, the courts, media, and all levels of government, will pump the U.S. with a tidal wave of immigrants from which this country will never recover. At that point, your critique of Trump’s handling of the COVID crisis or any estoric observations on IQ won’t even matter.

    Not only that, but Trump is the only candidate who will speak truth to BLM power. And don’t be fooled, BLM holds enormous leverage, so much so that I fear there will be no bottom to the insanity and chaos they will foment with big business, media, and HR Departments on their side. And this potential disaster could metastatize into something even worse if Biden is a soft figurehead while a hardcore BLM feminist pulls the strings as his VP. That should scare the hell out of everyone. These are not good people.

    I don’t say any of this to excuse his shortcomings. I’m also horrified at his boorishness in the face of pandemic. But the fight is just beginning. Trump is horrible at hiring (and his aids/advisors are terrible at administrative law), but he is learning.

    If you care about immigration you owe it to yourself to support Trump in a second term, where he take on the enemy for us.

    SWPL2

    July 7, 2020 at 2:07 PM

    • Trump’s tax-cutting policy empowered HR departments.

      And more generally, this is a very myopic viewpoint. The reason Trump is “the only candidate” is because of generations of people like you telling us we have to vote for the “lesser of two evils,” which tells politicians they don’t need to earn our votes.

      Alexander Turok

      July 7, 2020 at 11:46 PM

      • So what is your point, ultimately? Vote for Biden and get a far left Supreme Court? Vote for a libertarian weirdo who has obscure visions for this country that no one wants and will never come to fruition? Pull the lever for a third position nut who has overdosed on red pills and has zero chance?

        Trump is merely the beginning of a populist right wing movement. He hired the wrong people (GOPe operatives), took bad advice, and suffered leaks and sabotage from Obama et al and intelligence agencies. But he is wielding a cudgel at the media (and God bless him for that). And he is issuing executive orders that no one else would.

        Trump *has* earned out vote. And he deserves it again. He’s getting mine.

        SWPL2

        July 8, 2020 at 11:18 AM

      • There’s no value to a conservative Court if you die from the virus. So yes, vote Biden because the pandemic will still be here in 2021.

      • I’m not gonna vote.

        “Trump is merely the beginning of a populist right-wing movement”

        And it’s not one I want to be associated with if it means embracing all this crackpottery. You can tell me “Oceania has always been at war with East Asia,” all you want, but I’m didn’t support that war in 2016 and I’m not gonna support it now.

        Alexander Turok

        July 8, 2020 at 1:56 PM

      • There’s no value to a conservative Court if you die from the virus. So yes, vote Biden because the pandemic will still be here in 2021.

        What a ridiculous statement. This blog has truly jumped the shark. There certainly is value to a conservative Supreme Court if 0.6% of the population dies, and most of those are over 65 and were going to die in the next few years anyway. Meanwhile, there’s no value to saving 0.6% of the population from a respiratory illness if we get inundated with Guatemalans and Somalians and white America cases to exist.

        Hermes

        July 8, 2020 at 2:54 PM

      • “inundated with Guatemalans and Somalians”

        Idiocracy is still idiocracy even if the Clevons are white.

        https://alexanderturok.wordpress.com/2020/07/08/march-of-the-clevons/

        Alexander Turok

        July 10, 2020 at 10:16 AM

  12. I’ll say it again:

    There is no universe in which the virus can be stopped in America.

    America has a massive class of vibrant Democrats that will never follow any rules. Therefore the chance of this virus ever being stopped in America before running its course was always 0.

    Trump supporters never were big spreaders of the virus. Neither the first nor second wave. It was the unruly left and urban dwellers. Both the first wave and second wave were left wing phenomena. Now tons and tons of young protesters spread the virus in every city.

    The true Democrat privilege is that they caused virtually all of the COVID spread, first by jet-setting, then by spreading it throughout cities in the first wave and lastly by protests in the second wave, and then they deflect all of the blame.

    The genius Cuomo caused more COVID death than anyone by forcing COVID patients into nursing homes while hospital ships sat empty nearby.

    The “success” of New York is laughable. So many were exposed that the virus ran its course there. Deaths in NY have been 10x deaths in FL even though FL has a bigger population. R0 is far lower in NYC now because so many have antibodies. Such success.

    Lockdowns directly led to the riots because urban young people suddenly have no school, no job and no structure. Do you enjoy the new crime wave in your city? It is what you basically pushed for.

    I sincerely hope you stay safe and I am not talking about the virus.

    Dan

    July 7, 2020 at 2:15 PM

    • “The “success” of New York is laughable. So many were exposed that the virus ran its course there. Deaths in NY have been 10x deaths in FL even though FL has a bigger population. R0 is far lower in NYC now because so many have antibodies. Such success.”

      Help me herd immunity, you’re our only hope!

      Mike Street Station

      July 11, 2020 at 6:39 AM

  13. Maybe it is time to move to Israel?

    Joe Walker

    July 7, 2020 at 2:16 PM

  14. This summarizes your whole point.

    “The latest cases have been disproportionately young people because they have been the ones who have been going to bars and parties and protests. We know that young people have a much lower fatality rate than older people. But this doesn’t mean we can relax. Infected young people are still contagious and they will infect their older family members and “essential” workers. Also, it’s not yet clear that young people suffer no consequences from a mild case of the virus. It could be that a worrisome percentage of people, even young people, with mild cases of the virus could have longterm health consequences.”

    Cases have disproportionately been young people, who have a much lower fatality rate. But they ‘might’ infect older family members, and ‘essential workers’ (who are, by and large, younger people who-remember?-have a lower fatality rate).
    Also, its not yet clear that young people suffer no consequences, and it could be that young have longterm consequences.

    So the pandemic has been screwed up because it ‘might’ spread from young to old, it ‘might’ spread to essential workers (who are generally young anyway), it ‘might’ give young people consequences from a mild case, and it ‘might’ give young longterm health consequences.

    Jeez-sloppiest argument ever!

    anon

    anonymous

    July 7, 2020 at 2:20 PM

  15. That’s all fine and good, if you assume the other side is going to be better on net, or even wrt the virus. They didn’t want to close borders, they discouraged masks, they encouraged protests, they stuffed people in nursing homes. Sure, they have changed their tune on some of that stuff, but why would you trust them in the future? Because trump is bad?

    Joe

    July 7, 2020 at 2:25 PM

  16. I agree that Trump has been awful. But then, do you really want to support the Democrats instead? It’s always a question of who sucks more.

    That said, you’re exaggerating the dangers of the virus.

    Everyone keeps saying “deaths are a lagging indicator”. But they don’t lag by *this* much. It’s not like everyone takes exactly 4 weeks or whatever to die, you can die anywhere from 1-5 weeks after catching it. The case rate started climbing at the beginning of June, but deaths have just steadily declined. In March, deaths increased almost at the same time as cases.

    “More testing, more cases”. That’s not to say the recent rise isn’t real, of course it is, that’s what you get when everyone starts going to bars and street protests. But the number of cases is still way below what it was in March, because in March we were only testing about 1/10 as many people as we do now. The rise isn’t good, but you don’t need to panic about the high numbers just yet.

    “Also, it’s not yet clear that young people suffer no consequences from a mild case of the virus. It could be that a worrisome percentage of people, even young people, with mild cases of the virus could have longterm health consequences. The medical community is still learning about this virus.”
    The medical community sucks. They’ve learned nothing about it for 6 months. Instead everyone seems to leap the most extreme conclusions: “We have not yet proven that there are no longterm health consequences” -> “Some people might get longterm health consequences” -> “You’ll be sick forever, even if you feel fine for now” -> “LOCKDOWN!!!”. More likely, it’s just like any other virus- you get it, you feel sick for a while, maybe you die if you’re unlucky or unhealthy, but most people fully recover and get immunity.

    “And about contact tracing: the U.S. also sucks at that. A combination of a “diverse” population that doesn’t voluntarily comply, and a lack of political will to get tough and make people comply.”
    Yes, that should just be taken as given. It’s a fantasy to think the US could enforce contract tracing like Korea or Taiwan did. We might as well accept that there are no silver bullets to this, and stop throwing away our freedom.

    ack-acking

    July 7, 2020 at 2:26 PM

  17. Outside of NY, nobody cares about Coronavirus all that much. It just hasn’t become a thing anywhere else. That study that just came out found that Trump’s HCQ Treatment lowered mortality by 50% when administered late and that Orthodox doctor said it reduced deaths by 80% in his practice when used early. And that is just one element in the treatment. Combine it with other innovations like proning and remdesivir and maybe we largely have it beat. Unless somebody else gets NY level deaths, and that doesn’t seem likely, nobody is going to develop NY level concern. Antifa and economy have eclipsed Covid19 in public mind.

    PerezHBD

    July 7, 2020 at 3:13 PM

    • “Outside of NY, nobody cares about Coronavirus all that much.”

      What planet are you living on?

      njguy73

      July 8, 2020 at 12:19 AM

  18. I’ve repeatedly made the same three points from the beginning.

    1- This is not the plague. It’s just a very bad flu.
    2- We shouldn’t panic. But we should take this seriously.
    3- Older people with health problems dying is sad but not catastrophic.
    4- Disaster response is a local issue under state authority not federal authority.

    I haven’t changed my opinion on any of it. However, I’m shocked by the stupidity and incompetence of pretty much everyone. The President may not be in control of the local response but he should have shown more leadership. All he’s done is talk trash. Even if Trump didn’t provide leadership, neither did the CDC and governors. And it was actually their job to handle the local response! The media was more interested in bashing Trump than controlling the virus. And the general public has been the worst. Mardi Gras, Spring Break, restaurants, bars, clubs, parties, protests, counter protests, etc. If anything good comes of this it will be that natural selection weeds out some of the stupid.

    My own family has been under almost total lockdown since March. I’m the only one who’s had any public exposure. And my exposure has been limited to a quick weekly trip to the grocery store during off peak hours. That’s it. I haven’t seen friends or family face to face in over 3 months. Now, my wife has visited one of her friends a number of times. She’s a very social person and has to see her friends to stay sane. But her friend’s family is locked down even tighter than we are. We still don’t know anyone who has had it. Because everyone we know has gone to ground the same as we have. It’s not that anyone I know is particularly worried. It’s just that there are still so many unknowns. And we might be one of the unlucky ones for whom it’s serious. So it’s better to be safe than sorry. We’ve been doing this since March. And we’ll keep doing it for as long as necessary.

    destructure

    July 7, 2020 at 5:33 PM

  19. You guys are all fairweather supporters. Just when the going gets tough, everyone wants to jump off the ship. Cmon..for years he delivered a lot of anti-immigrant, racist speeches and you just MAGAed all the way. Just when he has started to deliver some good stuff for the opposite side, you want to just abandon him.

    Trump is a president for the whole country. He is supposed to deliver the goods for all of its citizens, not just the deplorables. If you could enjoy the spoils of his anti-immigration, racist actions, you could at least tolerate when he delivers some of the goods for the rest of the country.

    I am much more pro-Trump in 2020 than I was in 2016, as unbelievable it sounds!!

    mpt

    July 7, 2020 at 5:54 PM

    • It’s telling that you’re using a sportsball metaphor. For a lot of people politics is treated as if it were sportsball, where you signal your loyalty by supporting a political/sportsball team even when it’s a complete and total failure.

      He ran the ship into an iceberg or ten. Jumping ship is the rational approach.

      Alexander Turok

      July 7, 2020 at 11:54 PM

      • No.

        Being a team player matters especially in politics which is a team sport.

        Unlike all other sports which are fake, stupid, & pointless politics is real.

        eradican

        July 9, 2020 at 2:58 AM

  20. Trump’s mistake was worrying how the virus would affect the economy and therefore his reelection chances. That’s why he downplayed it from the very beginning, and continues to do so. Having an indoor rally where masks are optional? Maddening and irresponsible. His own supporters recognized the lunacy and stayed away. And because of the low attendance, some White House flunkie is gonna be fired for Trump’s decision to go ahead with it. That said, he never called the virus a hoax. You’re smart enough not to repeat this provable lie.

    Brendan

    July 7, 2020 at 5:59 PM

  21. “Back in 2016, I was optimistic that Trump would become more Presidential once he actually became President. I can’t say that ever really happened, but during the last year especially he has declined into being even less Presidential than he was when he was running for office back in 2016.”

    No one has been more disappointed than I have. I desperately want him to step aside. And if he doesn’t then the GOP should force him out and nominate someone else. Don’t mistake me for a NeverTrumper. That’s not what this is. This is a realization that Trump isn’t up to the presidency and is harming our national interests as well as the policies we support. Anyone who doesn’t realize this is in denial.

    “Maybe, if we are lucky, Tucker Carlson, one of the few smart people who understands and supports what a Trumpist national policy actually means, will run for President in 2024 and win. But that’s a real longshot. “

    It’s always hard to know whether a pundit or talk show host really believes what they’re saying or if they’re just walking in front of a parade for ratings. I don’t watch cable news. But I’ve seen quite a few clips of Tucker Carlson. And I think he probably believes what he’s saying. Maybe not entirely but mostly. It’s Trump’s beliefs that I doubt. It seems like what he really believes in is himself. Well, I support Trumpism. And if Trumpism is to have a future then Trump has to go.

    destructure

    July 7, 2020 at 6:12 PM

    • Tucker’s 180 degree turn on masks is very disappointing. In March he was very much for them (when liberals were still claiming masks were probably useless for civilians) and now he seems to have decided to suck up to his audience’s prejudices and declare there is no science behind mask wearing. Being anti mask seems like the single stupidest position to take.

      Peter Akuleyev

      July 8, 2020 at 6:10 AM

    • “No one has been more disappointed than I have.“

      Were you expecting miracles?

      I love Trump for one YUGE reason. He alone, since Reagan, on the Republican side understands that we are in a death match for moral supremacy. Humans eat, drink and think in moral terms and the Rs abandoned the field entirely when they accepted as a fiat truth the Bolshevik belief that nature has no effect on life outcomes. Now this lunatic religious philosophy is gaining ground and has determined that whites are an virus worthy of extermination.

      Believing Biden is better than Trump is insanity. Nothing less.

      Curle

      July 9, 2020 at 12:34 AM

      • “Were you expecting miracles?”

        Don’t be silly. I knew he wasn’t a skilled politician. I also knew the Dems, GOPe, deep state, msm, other countries, etc would do everything they could to block him and tear him down. Even so, Trump makes everything worse. He has alienated everyone including his own cabinet, staff, generals and allies until he’s completely isolated and alone. Can you name one person who’s worked for him who doesn’t hate his guts? His own family doesn’t even like him. That’s not normal. I’m starting to wonder if he doesn’t have a personality disorder or something. Regardless, a president without friends or allies might as well pack it in.

        “Believing Biden is better than Trump is insanity. Nothing less.”

        I never said Biden was better than Trump. I don’t want Biden. I want someone to replace Trump so that we can beat Biden. You’re right, we’re in a war with a lunatic religious philosophy. Yet Trump continues to treat the presidency like his own personal plaything. You may think Trump is winning but he’s not. Unless you mean #winning the way Charlie Sheen did. Seriously, watching Trump implode reminds me of Charlie Sheen. I wish it weren’t so but it is. Our biggest problem right now is Trump himself. And, in November, everyone who is in denial will be shocked at not only how bad he lost but how many congressional seats he cost us. If he cared about anyone but himself he would step aside.

        destructure

        July 10, 2020 at 2:44 AM

      • @ destructure

        The last good president was Bill Clinton and you likely hated him too. That’s okay dumb rightists are dumb for a reason. You’re probably too old and need to retire like nearly all the other geezers who dominate this comment section.

        The Clinton administration was very disorganized too and there were constant leaks nothing major just the usual personality conflicts. I’ve observed that there are two types of presidencies ones which hire smart, talented, strong, and qualified people which have a lot of big egos and personality clashes or ones stacked with lackeys, loyalists, cronies, and sycophants who fail at nearly everything of importance but do well politically and play the DC game great. The administrations of George W Bush and Barack Obama were definitely part of the latter.

        Trump was a successful billionaire, businessman, commentator, media personality, and celebrity figure for decades. There is no one better to lead and certainly no one willing to burn the necessary bridges to reform America.

        President Trump has been great but being experienced in the private sector wasn’t so aware of the sharks around him in DC. That’s why those same sharks took out General Flynn who was a Trump loyalist, shared Trump’s worldview, foreign policy inclinations, understood DC politics well especially the intelligence agencies, and could command things effectively.

        Appointing loyalists, allies, supporters, and friends to top positions then backing them fully is the only way to successfully wield power. The top one thousand people of the administration need to be on the same page to run things effectively and avoid leaks. A second Trump administration will be more like what was promised in 2015/2016.

        Personnel is policy and policy is in the details. When you set aside political BS and look at those details Trump has done a great job on all fronts even his critics now acknowledge that.

        eradican

        July 11, 2020 at 5:29 AM

      • “I love Trump for one YUGE reason. He alone, since Reagan, on the Republican side understands that we are in a death match for moral supremacy. Humans eat, drink and think in moral terms and the Rs abandoned the field entirely when they accepted as a fiat truth the Bolshevik belief that nature has no effect on life outcomes. ”

        Has Trump ever really fought against the idea that “nature has no effect on life outcomes”? Maybe there are a few hints of it, but the overall thrust of his policies and rhetoric are consistent with social/environmental determinist thinking.

        alex2

        July 11, 2020 at 3:05 PM

      • @ eradican

        Personnel was completely under Trump’s control. Yet he still hired people like Priebus, and he still spent time listening to Kushner’s ideas. Like the crime bill. He did not fire legacy appointees like Comey on day one, which would have saved him a world of pain, and he did not hire an army of loyalists like Miller. He could have done those things, but CHOSE otherwise.

        Instead he brought on highly qualified backbiters like Mattis, Bolton, and whoever all the leakers have been. His picks have been horrible, and he has no track record to indicate they will ever be better. Trump is not even half the leader you wish he could be.

        You said yourself that he just wanted to be a GOP president. He has never understood or accepted the Flight 93 paradigm, even if he accidentally hired some people who do. He is a Mr. Magoo who happens to have 1950s values, like the Lion has said. He delusionally believes he can forge coalitions with the class enemies of his base, and like almost all Silents and Boomers, he is constitutionally incapable of seeing real problems.

        Lowe

        July 11, 2020 at 4:20 PM

      • eradican — “You’re probably too old and need to retire like nearly all the other geezers who dominate this comment section.”

        Anyone young enough to call me “old” isn’t old enough to know what they’re talking about.
        **
        “There is no one better to lead and certainly no one willing to burn the necessary bridges to reform America.”

        You’re right about one thing, there is no one better at burning bridges than Trump. He’s a really good bridge burner. A great bridge burner. The best bridge burner ever.

        **
        I think Trump has isolated himself, can’t win and will take congress down with him. You think he’s #winning. We’ll see who was right in November.

        destructure

        July 11, 2020 at 5:45 PM

    • “It’s always hard to know whether a pundit or talk show host really believes what they’re saying or if they’re just walking in front of a parade for ratings. I don’t watch cable news. But I’ve seen quite a few clips of Tucker Carlson. And I think he probably believes what he’s saying. Maybe not entirely but mostly. It’s Trump’s beliefs that I doubt.”

      Although I view most people involved in the side businesses of politics, like media commentators, as grifters who don’t really believe what they are saying (see never trumpers), I think Tucker has finally stumbled on a set of real beliefs. I could be wrong of course, but I do agree that Tucker presents, and seems to believe in Trumpism far more than Trump does.

      Mike Street Station

      July 11, 2020 at 6:47 AM

  22. You assumptions about the disease are not based on anything and as usual are very US centric while being blind to what is going on in the rest of the world. Nobody has proper data, nobody know what is going on, countries that were good 2 months ago suddenly experience surges, countries that were very lenient about masks or social distancing are doing better than others. This is like climate change claims, baseless assumptions which ignores complexity.

    As for Trump, I don’t think Tucker could do better, the same blocks to advancement are there, Obama also had those issues when he tried to do things, it is in the core of the American system design which has too many balances. Second term brings more opportunities and make changing things easier, it will be stupid not to vote for him and as with the corona you are just acting out of panic and emotions rather than rationality.

    Hashed

    July 7, 2020 at 6:19 PM

  23. The failure of the Trump administration to deal with the pandemic is partially the result of Trump’s monumental incompetence, but it is also the result of decades of small government conservatism.

    The Obama administration CDC had negotiated a deal with China to have CDC observers in major Chinese cities including Wuhan. These were to help alert the US and WHO to possible emerging new diseases spreading in China. Trump pulled all those observers out of China. I think the last left in 2019.

    Trump proposed budget cuts for the CDC every year, but Congress refused to cut its budget, so funding for the CDC went up by a little each year. The CDC program that was funding the observers in China had been funded by Congress on a 5 year basis after the Ebola epidemic and when the money ran out, the Trump administration told CDC to shut the program down rather than ask Congress to extend the funding.

    In 2018 the Trump administration proposed 40% or larger cuts to the Public Health Service Commissioned Corps (PHSCC). These are trained medical personnel that are deployed in public health emergencies and disasters. They were deployed to help fight Ebola and are now deployed to fight Covid-19. While Congress refused to cut PHSCC and has continued to fund it, the Trump administration has stopped replacing anyone who quits or retires. They are simply letting the PHSCC shrink away.

    These proposed budget cuts in public health were ideas that came from small government conservatives around Trump. After the Ebola epidemic even Republicans in Congress would not go along with these kind of cuts but Trump was determined to slash government and keeps pushing for public health cuts, because he doesn’t understand why it is needed.

    While Trump has mostly failed to cut funding to the CDC, he has changed the leadership at the CDC. In every other global health emergency in the last 20 year, it is the CDC that has stepped forward to provide global leadership, either working through WHO or directly with other countries. For Covid-19 the CDC has mostly stayed on the sidelines. WHO has tried to step forward and provide the leadership the world expected from the CDC. One effort to co-ordinate world response to Covid-19 apparently fell apart when Mike Pompeo insisted the virus be named the “Wuhan virus.” While the CDC has stepped back from global leadership, the Chinese are trying to step forward and replace the US leadership.

    Pandemics are world wide emergencies and need a world wide co-ordinated response, so naturally Trump is withdrawing the US from WHO because …? I guess because he wants to continue his record of always doing the worse, most ineffective thing possible in response to the pandemic.

    The US pandemic response was a lethal mix of Trump’s monumental ignorance, America Firstism and small government conservatism mindlessly trying to slash the size of government. Not only do we need to ride ourselves of Trump, we need to purge Trump inspired America Firstism and admit that small government conservatism has been a catastrophic failure.

    MikeCA

    July 7, 2020 at 6:38 PM

    • Yeah, cause the WHO has done such a great job with this pandemic. *eyeroll*

      If your mentality is that spending more money magically equates to better outcomes, then there’s not much common ground to have a rational discussion. You yourself admit that the spending wasn’t actually cut, yet you still sight insufficient spending as the problem. Because it doesn’t matter if the budget is 1 million, 1 billion, 1 trillion, it can always be theoretically higher and that it is not can always be identified as the cause of the problem.

      “While the CDC has stepped back from global leadership, the Chinese are trying to step forward and replace the US leadership.”

      Yeah, cause everyone’s gonna look to them now, right? If you can’t trust the Chinese government, who can you trust?

      Alexander Turok

      July 8, 2020 at 12:05 AM

    • Maybe the CDC should learn to do more with their measly $3 billion budget.

      Paul Ryan’s Coronavirus Infected Lap Dog

      July 8, 2020 at 1:01 AM

      • In keeping with the theme of how the protests should be seen as the bigger issue than the virus, the CDC’s budget is dedicated to woke SJW causes like fighting “racism,” “homophobia,” “transphobia,” etc. Not to mention the age-old classic of providing make-work affirmative action jobs to women and NAMs.

        Hermes

        July 8, 2020 at 7:03 AM

      • That could explain why the CDC failed in its primary mission to control real disease like viruses.

      • The Trump Adminstration passed on making the failure of 8a contractors to produce the initial testing kits for Covid-19 because people like Jared Kushner believe it is more important to try to get the percentage of blacks voting for Trump from 8% to 12% rather than having the government operate in a competent manner.

        superdestroyer

        July 8, 2020 at 1:35 PM

      • Bizarrely, the CDC has been wanting to study gun violence for years, and that’s become a political football since Democrats believe that the resources of the CDC should be dedicated to running studies with the pre-determined conclusion that guns are bad. It’s hard to take an organization seriously that is so bored with it’s actual mission that it would rather branch out into political propaganda. The CDC needs a housecleaning.

        Mike Street Station

        July 11, 2020 at 6:54 AM

    • Finally a well balanced examination of events with relevant historical context. I agree that American healthcare infrastructure has been neglected, underfunded, and atrophied over the decades. Our health outcomes are worse off now than before and yes small government conservativism is a big part of the problem. Private sector healthcare under a progressive paradigm was the gold standard.

      eradican

      July 9, 2020 at 3:51 AM

  24. Any time there’s a numerical issue in this blog is being discussed Lion has the worse takes.

    1. Yes more NATIONAL testing means a lot more cases, back in March there were 6-20 k tests per day (15%of those tested positive) , nowadays the US does 500k-700k tests per day (roughly 5% test positive) of course there are going to be more confirmed cases now.

    2. The 5 day moving average for daily deaths has been decreasing for almost three months now, it peaked in early April at around 2500-2800 deaths per day, now the US averages about 500-600 deaths per day. It’s a long and consistent decrease, not a temporary one day reduction. Saying deaths are down 80%+ compared to early April doesn’t fit the estavlishment’s propaganda narrative.

    3. Trump just put an immigration moratorium for those esteemed H1Bs,H2s, and new green cards and barely anyone said anything. No president would have ever done that.

    DJGB

    July 7, 2020 at 6:52 PM

  25. Trump isn’t going senile. Trump has always enjoyed over-promising and under-delivering. It gives him a mental boner. Trump has also always employed The Power of Positive Thinking:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/trump-and-the-power-of-positive-thinking/

    Something to keep in mind is that Donald Trump’s personality, while it is unusual, has been consistent over the decades. As a child, he attended the sermons of the Rev. Norman Vincent Peale, author of the bestseller The Power of Positive Thinking.

    Here is an insightful 2016 book review of Trump’s 1988 memoir Trump: The Art of the Deal by Scott Alexander, who may have the exact opposite personality from Donald Trump:

    I started the book with the question: what exactly do real estate developers do? They don’t design buildings; they hire an architect for that part. They don’t construct the buildings; they hire a construction company for that part. They don’t manage the buildings; they hire a management company for that part. They’re not even the capitalist who funds the whole thing; they get a loan from a bank for that. So what do they do? Why don’t you or I take out a $100 million loan from a bank, hire a company to build a $100 million skyscraper, and then rent it out for somewhat more than $100 million and become rich?

    As best I can tell, the developer’s job is coordination. This often means blatant lies. The usual process goes like this: the bank would be happy to lend you the money as long as you have guaranteed renters. The renters would be happy to sign up as long as you show them a design. The architect would be happy to design the building as long as you tell them what the government’s allowing. The government would be happy to give you your permit as long as you have a construction company lined up. And the construction company would be happy to sign on with you as long as you have the money from the bank in your pocket. Or some kind of complicated multi-step catch-22 like that. The solution – or at least Trump’s solution – is to tell everybody that all the other players have agreed and the deal is completely done except for their signature. The trick is to lie to the right people in the right order, so that by the time somebody checks to see whether they’ve been conned, you actually do have the signatures you told them that you had. The whole thing sounds very stressful.

    Trump is good at conveying good news, but not good at conveying bad news. So when there is bad news, don’t expect him to convey very vividly what it is.

    Your health may depend upon you keeping this in mind.

    MEH 0910

    July 7, 2020 at 7:44 PM

    • No, what Trump the real estate agent (supposedly) did was promise something … and then deliver it. He’s not delivering on corona.

      And this master politician is gonna get his ass whipped in November.

      Alexander Turok

      July 8, 2020 at 12:13 AM

    • Very good explanation. To paraphrase an old meme: This is the ideal presidential candidate. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      July 8, 2020 at 2:30 AM

    • Trump didn’t actually write „The Art of the Deal“. It is a work of fiction penned by a ghostwriter Tony Schwartz. Hard to say what you can really learn about Trump from that book.

      Peter Akuleyev

      July 8, 2020 at 6:14 AM

    • Speaking of occupations which center around blatant lies, Scott Alexander is a mental health professional, right?

      Dmon

      July 9, 2020 at 12:23 PM

  26. Trump has fulfilled all of his meaningful campaign promises. He defeated Islamic terrorism (when was the last time there was an attack in the US? ) he wiped out ISIS, he has pulled troops out of many Middle Eastern conflicts and not engaged in more, he has appointed tonnes of Conservative judges at every level, he has cut legal and illegal immigration down drastically, he has affectively cut off 95% of Muslim immigration too, he has brought tech censorship to the forefront of many people’s minds that would not have even known about it otherwise. What more could you possibly have asked of him in 4 years? Seriously name one important thing that you really wanted that he has not delivered on. Sounds like you have been glued to fake news. The Corona Virus? Hardly his fault, the USA still has better stats per capita than most European countries based on population.

    DataExplorer

    July 7, 2020 at 8:11 PM

    • You forgot couple more accomplishments. I support him having USA pull out of Paris climate accord and TPP. I also support him pulling out of WHO. Maybe we can pull out of some functions of UN and even NATO. I support how he deals with Europe and Canada. I support his attempts (and some success) in dismantling Obamacare. I am not completely sold on his Covid response but who cares? Most of us are already staying home, working from home, staying safe.

      Other than anti-immigrant and racist tendencies, I support him in plenty of things. That’s why I am really surprised at Lion in wanting to abandon him after supporing him in 2016.

      mpt

      July 8, 2020 at 3:18 AM

    • If Trump ends up being the last Republicans President and if the Republicans lose the ability to win a majority in the Senate (the House is probably lost forever already) then would you agree that the Trump Administration was a failure?

      superdestroyer

      July 8, 2020 at 1:33 PM

      • “If Trump ends up being the last Republicans President”

        This isn’t mainly Trump’s fault.

        Trump put forth a real playbook. America first in all its many forms. Including some social spending aspects, reviving manufacturing, fighting for America on trade and putting American employment first.

        NeverTrump Republicans and establishment Republicans tossed it all aside for some tax cuts and while shooting at their own man with respect to the Russia nonsense and everything.

        A way forward was handed to them and they could do nothing but attack their own guy.

        As for ‘lost forever’ I don’t know.

        The Official Democratic platform of 2020:
        (1) Free all the prisoners, and also no police
        (2) Soaring crime
        (3) No school for any children
        (4) Shutting everyone in their homes forever
        (5) Straight socialism
        (6) Open borders with double digit unemployment, but you can’t go to work
        (7) No churches, only rioters smashing all the cities
        (8) Hate all of our heritage, like George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.
        (9) Teach your kids to hate you, and also cut your son’s junk off and have him announce he is your daughter

        However bad the Repubs are, at least they aren’t explicitly trying to drive a giant spike into the skull of America because they hate everyone including themselves.

        The hope for Republicans is that the core of the left is totally psycho and destructive. Their own cities have been rendered worthless and their beloved gentrification is ruined. Most people are not so ideological as to embrace their own destruction.

        Dan

        July 8, 2020 at 6:38 PM

      • STFU with your doomsday prattle. Republicans controlled the House, Senate, Presidency, and most state legislatures/governorships as of a few years ago. The problem was the party was not a pro-Trump party instead it was dominated by people like you.

        The GOP only needs to flip like a dozen seats to retake the House and lots of districts with Democrat Congressmen voted for Trump in 2016. The party is now targeting like all fifty of them to win big in 2020.

        eradican

        July 9, 2020 at 3:58 AM

      • Crime is now a loser argument for Republicans because of the Covid-19 response. If having 200k dead from Covid-19 on election day is just the cost of doing business since the cure is worse than the diease, then 25k homicide every years is just the cost of not having oppressive law enforcement and mass incarceration.

        Maybe if the Trump Administration could go a day without stepping on one of its previous messages, then one could argue that maybe some good could come out of the Trump Administration.

        superdestroyer

        July 10, 2020 at 8:07 AM

      • “If Trump ends up being the last Republicans President and if the Republicans lose the ability to win a majority in the Senate (the House is probably lost forever already) then would you agree that the Trump Administration was a failure?”

        If not for Trump, Bush would have been the last Republican President, thanks to the steady march of demographics. But Trump figured out how to get formerly non voters out to the polls and squeaked by a victory. He may be unlikely to replicate that this year, but we’re still much better off having 4 years of Trump than 8 years of Hillary followed by successive woke Democrats for decades to come.

        Mike Street Station

        July 11, 2020 at 7:03 AM

      • Mike Street Station,

        I think the only way for a conservative party to survive in the U.S. is for the Democrats to raise taxes and grow the federal government enough to more people will resent the heavy hand of the government. HOwever, the rearguard fighting that the Trump Administration is doing is guaranteed to make the dominance of the Democratic Party to last longer and for them to government from a far more leftist position.

        Also, Why not let Hillary Clinton deal with a recession, a pandemic, and urban unrest.

        superdestroyer

        July 12, 2020 at 9:38 AM

  27. The “pandemic” will be over ten minutes after Biden is elected. If he loses, it will continue for four more years. It’s a rather magical virus that causes a 100% infection rate at Trump rallies and 0% at BLM protests.

    Total mortality for 2020 will not be very much different when the “greatest pandemic in history” is over. Maybe some time in 2022 Lion will realize he was played.

    peterike

    July 8, 2020 at 9:29 AM

    • The pandemic is good for people like us. Low future time and low brow hedonistic proles have it worse.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      July 8, 2020 at 11:34 AM

    • Once again, an idiot truther. Do you really believe that all of the local health departments have agreed to face a pandemic just to defeat Trump? Do you think the rest of the world is not experiencing the same thing as the U.S. Do you think that Brazil and Mexico are having higher death rates than the U.S. just to harm the public perception of the Trump Administration?

      What an idiot

      superdestroyer

      July 8, 2020 at 1:31 PM

      • I don’t think he was being a “truther” so much as pointing out how the msm will switch gears if Biden wins. For example, the left was going crazy attacking Bush for the Iraq war but stopped the second BO was elected.

        destructure

        July 8, 2020 at 3:11 PM

      • Except that local (State) health departments and other nations have NOT all acted the same way (why does New York have TEN TIMES the deaths of Florida?). Were are the “millions” of deaths we were promised?

        This is a media and politically driven pandemic. Lots of people die EVERY SINGLE YEAR from respiratory illnesses. If we focused fanatically on them and churned out 24×7 hysterical news coverage, we could have had the same hysteria in any year you like. This has been no more than a worse-than-average flu year — to the extent we can know that due to massive over-reporting of both deaths and cases. Sweden did very little and guess what their 2020 mortality will show? Perfectly average year.

        But go ahead a wear your stupid mask that actually does more harm than good, and go right along with the Panic Police.

        Oh and here’s an instructive Twitter thread for you.

        peterike

        July 8, 2020 at 5:31 PM

      • “You have to stay in your house forever and you are a terrorist if you try to go to church but leftist rioters dry humping in their destructive thousands all day long in every city actually reduces transmission.”

        –> Do you really believe that all of the local health departments have agreed to face a pandemic just to defeat Trump?

        Peterike is just stating the obvious. The health authorities actually agreed in a petition that thousands of them signed that mobs rioting in every city are actually a good thing after locking everyone in their houses for many months. They showed they are indistinguishable from blue haired social justice warriors.

        Dan

        July 8, 2020 at 7:00 PM

      • The death rate for Covid-19 is about ~ 4% vs the flu which is less than 1% of the population. I don’t know anyone who has died from one of the cold/flu viruses. Do any of you?

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 10, 2020 at 8:39 AM

      • “The death rate for Covid-19 is about ~ 4% vs the flu which is less than 1% of the population. I don’t know anyone who has died from one of the cold/flu viruses. Do any of you?”

        In my entire lifetime, I don’t know anyone who died from the flu.

        I know one person who died from the virus. And I know one person whose father died from the virus.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 10, 2020 at 9:11 AM

      • “Do you really believe that all of the local health departments have agreed to face a pandemic just to defeat Trump?”

        Well…

        NYC COVID-19 Contact Tracers Not Asking About George Floyd Protest Participation, Despite Fears of New Virus Wave

        Open Letter Advocating for an anti-racist Public Health Response

        Mike Street Station

        July 11, 2020 at 7:12 AM

      • I don’t know of any 30 year old prole who dies from a flu or a cold after catching it from their fellow proles from a festive gathering. But Covid-19 is a different animal and deadly.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/patient-dies-after-going-to-covid-party-thought-it-was-a-hoax-official/ar-BB16CCy8

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 11, 2020 at 4:04 PM

  28. I can’t write about the pandemic without writing about how horrible Trump is. This is important for the audience of people who read this blog, because most of the readers are Trump supporters. I voted for Trump (but won’t make that mistake again). I was excited as anyone when he beat Hillary. Even though by the time of the election, I already know that Trump was full of shit on a lot of things and he didn’t even understand his own policy platform. I knew that Mexico was never going to pay for the Wall, but I was optimistic that the Wall would be built anyway. (Of course, no Wall was built.)

    Maybe Trump is going senile. I hope he’s going senile because that would excuse me for voting for him. How could I have known in 2016 that he was going senile and was no longer the same person who he was when he was younger? If that’s really what’s happening.

    You have nothing to regret. You did not make a mistake. Hillary Clinton would not have been much better. There are some things I like about the Trump presidency, but not enough to even want to vote for him.

    Still, I am shocked about the ineptitude of the executive branch in dealing with the pandemic.

    Latias

    July 8, 2020 at 2:09 PM

  29. The best case scenario is for Joe Biden to win by a slim margin. It is also the most likely. That way we can move beyond Trump and the base will be able to claim that the Democrats stole the election. It will fire up the entirely of the American right as it will be self evident that all will be lost without taking drastic measures. I will be forever grateful to Trump for all of his efforts, but he is not the one. Trump was a battering ram that will make for the man on the white horse. That man, who remains to be seen will be the American Pinochet.

    B.T.D.T.

    July 8, 2020 at 2:45 PM

  30. I obviously gonna vote for Trump, but only a dictatorship and a civil war with millions of casualties can save this poor country. There is simply no other way at this point. This is very simple.

    Yakov

    July 8, 2020 at 2:55 PM

    • Imagine gangs of blacks walking with guns in Crown Heights to target a specific demographic who surpass them as welfare recipients and likely to support Trump. It’s not nice to see, but White gentiles who want Meriprolestan for themselves and no one else are happy to see a civil war which only they will benefit at the end.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      July 10, 2020 at 8:44 AM

      • Far right church-going gentiles love Jews more than Jews love themselves. I’m amazed at how few people got the memo on this.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        July 10, 2020 at 2:23 PM

    • MoreSigmasThanYou

      July 10, 2020 at 2:20 PM

  31. One interesting angle is that the four countries with the worst coronavirus are US, Brazil, India, and Russia. All of them have leaders who are generally seen as right-wing. I guess only US and Russia are “majority white”. So I think that even if coronavirus is less important than major social changes, doing badly with coronavirus will hurt the future of right wing leaders and governments?

    Tbh though, I feel like right-wingers have been shooting themselves in the foot by not seeing the upside to the coronavirus on immigration:

    1. International travel is dramatically reduced and things seem to be running alright. Maybe this means that immigration could be reduced without any sort of disaster?

    2. If wfh is a valid substitute for in-office work, why can’t we take fewer immigrants and have more remote offices in other countries?

    3. It would need to be argued somewhat carefully, but there isn’t much correlation between racial diversity and success with coronavirus, which should be seen as evidence against the “diversity solves everything” perspective.

    alex2

    July 8, 2020 at 6:33 PM

    • Immigration takes place in Meriprolestan solely because we need immigrants to propel the hedonism that drives its capitalism. Feasting, F#cking and Fu$$ing, 3 F words that define our nation’s capitalistic culture afforded to even the poorest of its citizens. Covid-19 has put a halt to much of this, and therefore immigrants are apparently not needed. Right-Wing Whites tend to be less intelligent than Left Wing Whites when it comes to exploiting non-whites. In fact, Right Wingers don’t want to exploit them but want to expunge them, hence GDP is significantly lower in red states and areas that are inhabited by Right Wing types. Covid-19 changes all of this, a curb of non-white immigration, or what we call immigration, but Right Wing types aren’t winning, because this pandemic just transforms our major industries that will find a way to use non-white labor.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      July 10, 2020 at 12:32 PM

    • “four countries with the worst coronavirus are US, Brazil, India, and Russia”

      Russia’s doing fine, and probably India is too. Learn what per capita is.

      Alexander Turok

      July 10, 2020 at 11:45 PM

  32. Biden stated platform:

    “ It would also set a new cap for refugees at 125,000 a year, which would be a record high.

    The biggest-ticket item is a “roadmap to citizenship” for nearly 11 million illegal immigrants. Those who’ve been working illegally in essential services during the coronavirus pandemic would get fast-tracked.”

    But sure, vote for Biden.

    PS – 11 million is a nonsense number. It’s two or three times more. Biden victory is the end of America, full stop. But hey, Trump is a “blowhard,” so vote for Biden you stupid idiots!

    Peterike

    July 8, 2020 at 10:00 PM

  33. Originally they said that most of us would eventually be exposed to the virus, sooner or later, depending on the mitigations. Do you believe that? If not, what’s the end game?

    Prole

    July 8, 2020 at 11:02 PM

  34. Perhaps you haven’t noticed that the entire deep state has been running a coup against Trump since before the election, to the point where the supreme court rewrites the constitution on the fly just to prevent him from exercising his lawful powers. That may have a small impact on his ability to deliver on his promises.

    As for response to coronavirus, Trump basically went along with Fauci on everything. It’s not his fault that Fauci is a chronic liar, going back to the 80’s (when he lied about AIDS being an equal threat to the hetero community), and reaching a new peak with the mask turnaround (can’t blame him personally for screwing up the testing though – that’s on Redfield). Trump did make a huge mistake however when he allowed your Gov. Tamerlane to talk him out of quarantining NYC – without NYC, the US would barely be able to crack the top 10 in per capita deaths. I’ll give Trump an assist there, but there is no doubt Cuomo is the undisputed world leader for deaths per capita in the polity he governs, and it’s not particularly close. Not to mention that Trump’s somewhat optimistic attitude re the virus has the written endorsement of the entire NYC medical establishment, which has determined that the corona virus can be killed by setting it on fire or throwing a brick at it. Oh, and by the way, a big peer reviewed study by Ford Health just indicated that HCQ is considerably more effective at reducing death rate than Remdesivir. Damn, who the hell can you believe nowadays?

    Regarding contact tracing, I believe that the mentally ill entity who is the head of the NY dept. of public health has specifically instructed contract tracers that they may not inquire as to whether the positive testee attended any of the festive celebrations which marked the canonization of St George. Also, if contact tracing is implemented seriously, I would think about who my enemies were. I’m sure nobody would never ever tell the contact tracers, “Sure, Lion and I were pounding beers all night” just to fu$k with you. Perjury can’t exist in a country where Al Sharpton is venerated as a responsible journalist and community organizer.

    Basically, your outlook is skewed by two circumstances:
    1. You have no children, so you don’t think in terms of the country going to shit, only your comfort. I don’t blame you for that, but some of us would like our children not to have to live in South Africa.
    2. You live in NY, surrounded by ass-clowns, with an ass-clown mayor and administration, with the biggest ass-clown of all up in Albany preening on cable with his mountain of corpses while being fellated by his brother, for the viewing pleasure of the 14 people in the country who are still forced to patronize airports. You have half the cv deaths in the country, and now that they’re apparently ebbing, you’re trying to maintain the numbers with murders.
    And finally, any non-poc who does not vote for Trump has either no shred of self respect, or is a total goddamn idiot.

    Dmon

    July 9, 2020 at 1:14 AM

  35. This is ridiculous. It takes about 15 days from COVID confirmation (positive test) to death (18 days minus two days before person goes to the test minus two days to get the test result). We would be seeing ten days of massive increase in deaths by now. There is nothing like that happening. COVID is not a news anymore. What is news now is the second civil war. Either you went nuts because of the severe anxiety or you sold your blog, or something more sinister.

    My 2¢

    July 9, 2020 at 1:26 AM

    • Deaths are starting to hit records in CA, AZ, TX, and FL. Also it takes longer than 15 days to die. People can hang on hospitals for weeks. It is arguable deaths will not catch up to the level NY had, but there’s going to be a lot deaths coming up.

      I am suspecting a second civil war might be coming. But when the rest of the world through various tactics (Japan with Masks, Korea with Testing, Western Europe with lighter-than-China-but-still-lockdowns) have brought now cases but we’re stopped part of the way and now hitting new records. I cannot say the I sympathize with “your” side where somehow you think the right strategy is just ignore the virus like it doesn’t exist. And don’t say you actually not a hoaxer, even if you’re not, that doesn’t change the strategy is effectively is still let the virus run through.

      Dreamer

      July 10, 2020 at 12:31 AM

    • It takes much longer than 15 days from infection to death. There are manypeople who have been in the hospital for weeks. What of the odd characteristics of Covid-19 is that patents yo-yo between doing better and doing worse.

      superdestroyer

      July 10, 2020 at 7:59 AM

  36. It was plandemic all along, though I do think the virus is real and probably engineered in a lab somehwere. This was file initially in January 2019:

    Short Titles
    Short Titles as Enacted
    CARES Act
    Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act
    Short Titles as Enacted for portions of this bill
    COVID-19 Pandemic Education Relief Act of 2020
    Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act
    Coronavirus Economic Stabilization Act of 2020
    Emergency Appropriations for Coronavirus Health Response and Agency Operations
    Relief for Workers Affected by Coronavirus Act
    Other Short Titles
    CARES Act
    Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/748/all-info

    Hildebeast would have been a disaster. Not only we would have unlimited turd world immigration, but I’m sure we could have something worse like an untreatable strain of TB. I certainly paid less tax under Trump but it’s too bad the greed on both sides has led to this steady decline.

    The country really needs to break up. Cowardly anti-gun big government leftist like Lion can live in his ‘gun free’ heavily urban city filled with diversity trash while those of us who like be around people who can do something can live our lives in peace.

    Someone

    July 9, 2020 at 8:44 AM

    • You did not pay less tax, you just postponed the taxes until later. That is why deficit spending is and is something that conservatives abandoned for the short term benefit of maintaining power. Remember, deficit spending always benefits the DEmocrats.

      superdestroyer

      July 10, 2020 at 7:58 AM

    • So why are you posting here? Shouldn’t you be developing your homestead in some rural area, along with some other families, where you can grow your own food and barter and form cottage industries and start homeschool co-ops? Don’t you read Dmitry Orlov and James Kunstler?

      njguy73

      July 12, 2020 at 12:03 AM

  37. If Trump knows he’s going down, maybe that will force him to really attack and expose the Deep State. We may already be seeing this with the arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell. Maybe we’ll expect loads of pardons and declassification of documents showing how sordid our system of government is.

    Red pill aspie

    July 9, 2020 at 9:48 PM

    • Your idea requires a level of work and effort that President Trump is incapable of doing. My guess is that if President Trump loses in November, he will spend three months trying to monkey wrench the Biden Administration and talking about his grudges.

      superdestroyer

      July 10, 2020 at 7:56 AM

    • Ghislaine Maxwell is almost as damaging to Trump and Barr as she is to Clinton and Prince Andrew. Trump has little to gain (Clinton isn’t running for office, Trump seems to like the Royals) and much to lose from her talking. I expect she will disappear fairly quickly now and nothing new will ever come to light.

      Peter Akuleyev

      July 11, 2020 at 1:42 AM

  38. In my county positives are going up and hospitalizations are going down. This thing will prove less deadly proportionally than the Hong King flu.

    Time to act more like the people of 1969 and man up.

    Did the Hong Kong flu stop Woodstock? The Summer of Love?

    Time to get a grip.

    Curle

    July 10, 2020 at 12:04 AM

    • Please name the county. Florida currently refuses to release hospitilization data. The number of deaths in the U.S. reached above 900 on Tuesday and Thursay (July 7 and 9) after not being that high since Jun 10. The national data nor states like Florida, Texas, and California setting new high death days supports your anecdotal argument.

      superdestroyer

      July 10, 2020 at 9:24 AM

      • I’m not going to reveal that level of personal data, but in mid-March hospitalizations were >25 now they are at 10. Three weeks ago they were just below 15. It has been a steadily declining graph. Over the same time period the seven day average of new cases climbed from 10 to >40. This is a county of approx 800k.

        Curle

        July 10, 2020 at 10:28 AM

      • Let assume Lee County Florida

        On Jul 10 2020 this was reported:

        https://www.winknews.com/2020/07/10/fridays-coronavirus-updates-11433-new-cases-93-new-deaths-reported-in-florida/
        Tha means in one day there were 234 new cases. Since a test positive rate of over 20% (that means there are many infected people who have not been tested.

        Since Florida does not report hospitalizations, it is impossible to determine the number of people in the hospital. OF course, Lee County government decided that masks should not be required. Acting like defiant toddlers seems to be more important than trying to deal with a pandemic to too many people.

        superdestroyer

        July 11, 2020 at 10:18 AM

    • 95% of appeals to “man up” on the internet consist of demands for individuals to take up some dumb burden for someone else’s benefit.

      Alexander Turok

      July 10, 2020 at 10:18 AM

      • “Man up” = “Let’s you and him fight”

        njguy73

        July 11, 2020 at 11:59 PM

  39. My guiding principle right now is dealing with the pandemic. in other times, it would be other causes where many times I would lean towards the conservative view. But right now it’s dealing with the pandemic. That’s the force that while it may not kill me, at event 1% – I understand enough about statistics that it means I will know someone I care will not make it if allow to go through virtually everyone. And then there’s the fact my world is not just only young people either.

    I read a whole bunch of different arguments. But know what I am seeing from a certain side, ideas to bring cases down. Even if one don’t believe it’s a hoax – as one pointed out above – are arguing it’s “Deep State”, media bias, deaths are actually overstated. Whereas I look to other countries that I see attacks on just bring allow the virus to get big. I see arguments the virus getting big is not a big deal anyways.

    People right now have been arguing schools late. That one side is saying keeping school closed is even worse because of the loss of education and just pure amount of downtime. The other side is talking about the dangers of the virus. You know what would have been nice? If our cases has just followed Europe, doesn’t have to a be debate in the first places if the virus is just (and don’t argue to me the media would have just spun that school to be closed anyways – I’m basing my thoughts by looking at other countries)

    And you know why we have so many cases? It’s not the side that been pushing to wear masks and follow health experts. And don’t me the protests fueled it. I haven no qualms viewing the protests fueled spread. But at least they still endorsing tactics that other countries used to beat it back down. Meanwhile the other side may not have huge protests, but refusing or even doing the exact opposite as a general basis.

    Dreamer

    July 10, 2020 at 1:40 AM

  40. OT, but Ghislaine needs to be careful she doesn’t commit suicide by mistake.

    Anthony

    July 10, 2020 at 3:47 PM

    • Maybe she will get Corona.

      Peter Akuleyev

      July 11, 2020 at 1:43 AM

  41. MEH 0910

    July 10, 2020 at 4:36 PM

  42. O/t – Maybe you will post this with your tweets on Twitter.

    40% of NYC residents think anywhere north of the city is deemed “Upstate” NY and 30% of NYC residents think anywhere north of Westchester is “Upstate” NY.

    Holy Sh!t, the northernmost point of Long Island known as the Orient is just slightly south of the Mid Hudson Valley and just north of certain parts of Westchester and Rockland counties.

    Long Island was never part of Upstate NY so why is Putnam or Orange County considered “Upstate”?

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    July 10, 2020 at 4:50 PM

    • Anything north of Westchester is upstate, everyone knows that.

      • A greater percentage of NYC residents think Westchester is the beginning of “Upstate” and most people don’t realize that Long Island actually points northwards and not what we normally think as a straight line.

        Prolier residents would consider anything north of the Bronx as “Upstate”, while less prolish types think anything north of Westchester is where it begins. The elitist types would tell you, no, “Upstate” really begins in Albany.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 11, 2020 at 12:06 AM

      • No only people who live in Albany who live in the Hudson Valley would say that upstate begins at Albany.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 11, 2020 at 2:22 PM

      • As you head up north towards the Upper Hudson Valley, the nexus between the respective region and NYC fades dramatically. Not only do residents don’t pay commuter taxes to the MTA for its buses and rails, fewer people have less of a connection with the city. So fewer people are commuting to the city for work and play and fewer city residents view the area as a short term feasible getaway. Once you’re in Albany, the world becomes very removed from the city. I don’t know of anyone who commutes from Albany to the city. This is the defining area where “Upstate” actually begins, and it’s an elitist view of what is “Upstate”. When do proles bother with research and engage in nuance? Furthermore, ask any NAM who lives in Newburgh or Peekskill, and they’ll tell you their respective hometown is “Upstate”, just because it’s north of the Bronx.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 11, 2020 at 2:52 PM

    • Funny you should mention this. A long time ago there was an incident that happened in Nyack New York. This incident was explained to me by two different people. One of them described it as happening “upstate” and the other one described it as happening “on Long Island”. There’s a great deal of confusion about where these boundaries go.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      July 11, 2020 at 1:17 PM

      • A former co-worker intuitively tells me that she doesn’t like the Hudson Valley, despite not spending enough time north of the Bronx. Her basis was that it’s not really Upstate NY, and citing a reason that the Hudson Valley feels suburban with its “faux” mountain ranges and not a true rural frontier that one gets to experience like in the Catskills, Finger Lakes and the Adirondacks.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 11, 2020 at 3:26 PM

      • By the way, I once stepped foot upon the visitor’s center in Saratoga Springs, known for its horse racing and gambling den, and the front desk clerk appeared dumbfounded or indifferent when I told him that I’m visiting from NYC. Interestingly, and unsurprisingly, the capital region where Saratoga Springs is located has quite a number of French Canadians who call it home or their getaway. It’s not far from the Adirondacks that borders Québec. Upstaters don’t seem to give a finger when you tell them you are from Manhattan.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 11, 2020 at 5:09 PM

      • Lion might find this website quite entertaining. It shows all the counties in NYS in regards to the percentage of the educated ranging from pre-high school to a doctorate.

        Higher education among Staten Island’s residents (Richmond County) is appalling as always. Only 18% of its 25 yr olds have a 4 year college degree, the lowest in NYC, and the same goes for Suffolk County for the NYC Metro area. The proles of Staten Island and Long Island appear to be less affable than the proles of the Hudson Valley for this particular reason.

        The county with the most PhDs is Tompkins County in the Finger Lakes, where the city of Ithaca is located and where Cornell is situated.

        https://statisticalatlas.com/state/New-York/Educational-Attainment

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 11, 2020 at 9:42 PM

      • I don’t need website to know that Staten Island is full of uneducated guidos.

      • * I would like to add that the Bronx has the lowest, and not Staten Island, which comes right after it, and quite appalling for a county that is predominantly White.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 11, 2020 at 9:47 PM

    • Geography still matters. Mountains matter. No one even notices when they cross in an auto from the Bronx to Westchester, except for the signs along the road. But even the thickest, most self-absorbed person who is not asleep would have to notice going through the Highlands, even the portion inland from the Hudson that the Taconic Parkway crosses. West of the river they would have to notice going through Harriman Park. So Westchester and Rockland are Downstate, and the Highlands and anything north of them are Upstate. Long Island is an exception to this. Suffolk County historically has more in common with New England than New York.

      Continental Village

      July 12, 2020 at 11:42 AM

  43. MEH 0910

    July 11, 2020 at 2:09 AM

  44. So you are supporting the side that wants to censure any controversial opinions on social media? If they win it will be the end of being able to find alternative view points on the internet. And if your blog was reaching 100s of thousands of people they would bury it too. The only reason why google hasnt already buried you in the search algorithm is because you are not important enough to be on their radar. So you are supporting the side that wants to censure people like you?

    DataExplorer

    July 11, 2020 at 9:34 AM

    • I differ from many people because I judge politicians by results. What actually happens, not what the politician theoretically wants to happen. And what has actually happened with Trump is that censorship has reached a record level. He’s done nothing about it.

      Alexander Turok

      July 11, 2020 at 9:38 PM


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