Lion of the Blogosphere

The most gerrymandered congressional district ever?

I just realized that this is my district.

Besides the ultra-liberal west side of Manhattan, it includes some solidly prole and Republican-leaning ultra-Orthodox Jewish and guido neighborhoods of Brooklyn.

I predict that CD10 votes for Trump.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

April 19, 2016 at 12:02 PM

Posted in New York City, Politics

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  1. Otis the Sweaty must have his nascent pan-white NYC Holy League out there demonstrating in full regalia today. Go Otis !!

    Camlost

    April 19, 2016 at 12:23 PM

  2. I wouldn’t consider that district to be gerrymandered, at least not by modern standards. MD-3 is the worst I think. http://www.trbimg.com/img-55ef79bd/turbine/ph-ph-h-ph-ac-md-congressional-district-3-map-jpg-20140916

    Spoons

    April 19, 2016 at 12:24 PM

    • Yes, that definitely tops my district by a significant margin.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      April 19, 2016 at 3:18 PM

    • I am a Marylander. The proposed gerrymandering by the Democrats in 2012 was so bad that all the newspapers, including the liberal Washington Post, came out against it.

      It was petitioned, and voters had a change to stop it with a veto referendum.

      https://ballotpedia.org/Maryland_Redistricting_Referendum,_Question_5_(2012)

      Instead voters *approved* the worst, most antidemocratic gerrymandering in the country by a 64% to 34% margin!!

      One problem in Maryland is that the stupid teacher’s union gives out ‘Apple Ballot’ sample ballots that tells everyone how to vote. Your children’s smiling teachers hand it out at every single precinct while voting is happing. It is a pretty red apple cutout that looks like a hallmark card or a valentine. Everyone likes teachers of course so they follow it exactly, especially on complicated questions. But the ‘Apple Ballot’ is just straight Democrat party line voting, 100% of the time.

      It doesn’t seem like it should be legal for teachers to use their taxpayer-funded positions for political advocacy, and obviously they don’t speak for all teachers. But the Apple Ballot is why there can never be a Republican or Independent (or even an outsider Democrat) in any political office in any part of Montgomery County, MD.

      Dan

      April 19, 2016 at 5:50 PM

  3. Were you able to vote? A number of polling stations in NYC couldn’t be opened, and many machines were inoperative.

    bob

    April 19, 2016 at 1:56 PM

  4. True, it’s more like a Jewish-mandated NYC.

    Jews dominate the Upper West Side, both religious and non-religious, and just the west side of Manhattan in general, from Columbia University down to the Financial District.

    Guido Brooklyn is not correct: Jews have dominated Prole Brooklyn, more than Italians, for the past 20 years.

    JS

    April 19, 2016 at 2:00 PM

    • SWPL Brooklyn: Brooklyn Heights, Williamsburg, Greenpoint. Park Slope, Dumbo, Carroll Gardens and Cobble/Boerum Hill.

      Prole Brooklyn (non-Hasidic-Hoods): Bensonhurst, Bay Ridge, Sheepshead Bay, Gerritsen Beach, Gravesend and Coney Island. Only Bensonhurst and Bay Ridge are guido, and much less now, since Chinese immigrants have displaced Italians. The large Chinese demographic could never overpower any Jewish Chutzpah.

      JS

      April 19, 2016 at 4:30 PM

      • The 38th Parallel would disagree. Give it time.

        Vincent

        April 19, 2016 at 10:07 PM

      • Jews dominate all SWPL neighborhoods, and most prole neighborhoods in NYC. Many Jews don’t really care for Hipster neighborhoods like Williamsburg and Dumbo, because hipsterism is for gentiles and it is beneath them.

        It is believed that the Upper East Side is where all the wealthy gentiles reside, yes, but wealthy Jews are found in large numbers, and plenty of synagogues and Jewish centers line up the entire stretch of the eastern part of Central Park. The same could be said of Prospect Park in Park Slope, where wealthy Jews (and even Jewish proles) congregate in large numbers.

        JS

        April 20, 2016 at 12:06 AM

  5. Gerrymandered so Nadler can sit on his fat ass forever.

    Daniel

    April 19, 2016 at 2:51 PM

    • Nadler, oy.

      I am on his e-list.

      He’s so pro-immigration it’s revolting.

      The 1924 immigration act “may have caused the deaths of 2M Jews” killed in the Holocaust. (That’s from an email I got from him.)

      Oy.

      gothamette

      April 19, 2016 at 9:58 PM

  6. How are the Bernie losers going to react to the blacks stealing the nom from their man? I think this is the most interesting question of this entire primary season and nobody is talking about it.

    Otis the Sweaty

    April 19, 2016 at 7:59 PM

  7. We should increase the size of the House to 1 rep per 60,000.00 That would be about 5400 reps, which would be proportionally what the country had in 1790.

    This is even if we should keep the House. Why can’t we change the govt system? Is what we have really the best?

    If you could rewrite the Constitution, would you keep the federal govt the same?

    Do we really have to have 50 states? It’s probably almost impossible to do anything about it at this point, unless there is a massive upheaval.

    ttgy

    April 19, 2016 at 8:23 PM

    • I’d have 200 states and 6000 reps. I’d also get rid of the Supreme Court and the Senate. Keep everything else the same.

      Otis the Sweaty

      April 19, 2016 at 11:09 PM

    • Funnily enough the 1 rep per 60,000 people ammendment fell short of ratification by one state. Still you could try and get 27 states to ratify it and it will be in the US constitution.

      With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

      April 20, 2016 at 6:50 AM

  8. Trump has scored a crushing victory. A reminder to all my comrades: This is not a victory against Cruz, the GOPe, the Left or the media. This is a victory over the most loathsome and vile enemy of the Revolution: the TruCons.

    Tonight, we drove another nail into Conservatisms coffin.

    Otis the Sweaty

    April 19, 2016 at 9:38 PM

    • Otis, are you ever over at reddit?

      They are crazy and amusing. It’s a cult but funny.

      They seem to be having more fun hating Cruz than Hillary or Bernie.

      Rifleman

      April 20, 2016 at 2:29 AM

  9. Looks like at least 90 out of 95 delegates will go Trump with the fight for the 10th being very tight between Trump and Kasich.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    April 19, 2016 at 10:46 PM

  10. Trump’s messaging has improved since Paul Manafort was brought on board.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    April 19, 2016 at 10:49 PM

    • did he say anything about immigration? That’s his strongest issue. It doesn’t poll well but it gets votes at the ballot box.

      Otis the Sweaty

      April 19, 2016 at 11:10 PM

      • It doesn’t poll well but it gets votes at the ballot box.

        How can it not poll well?

        Too many America’s are not interested in America as a nation. They are living in their own bubble.

        The media has an agenda and they are doing a good job keeping people in the dark and demonizing anybody who shines a light!!

        Rifleman

        April 20, 2016 at 2:09 AM

      • did he say anything about immigration?

        I didn’t hear the speech.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        April 20, 2016 at 7:58 PM

  11. Trump wins all CD’s. He fails to get to 50% in 4 of them, and one more, District 13, is still a 50/50 tossup with 93% of precincts reporting. Trump will finish with 90 or 91 delegates.

    Great Again

    April 19, 2016 at 11:15 PM

  12. The gerrymandering in New York is done to get incumbent politicians re-elected, and is agreed to by Republicans and Democrats. Its done to secure them from primary challenges as much as to help them win in the general election. Since every NY politician has their particular ethnic group backing them, this winds up the lines being drawn on ethnic lines.

    This particular congressional map was actually drawn up by a federal judge, but she just drew what the politicians would have produced if they had gotten their act together. She did tone down the gerrymandering a little, so other states have congressional maps much worse than New York’s.

    The particular configuration of the NY 10th CD is a historical accident. It was created, under a different name, after the 1990 census when three districts, including one district in the city, had to be eliminated. The legislatures decided to combine the districts of two Jewish Congressmen who did not have many friends in the legislature, one a neocon named Steve Solarz, and the other a very liberal pacifist named Ted Weis. Solarz was a Brooklyn Congressmen and supported by the conservative prole Jews in neighborhoods like Borough Park. Weis was from the Upper West Side. The district wound up being very Jewish and the two areas had to be connected by including alot of abandoned docks. As it happened, Solarz ran in another district, and Weis died right before the 1992 election, and the Manhattan Democratic Party (Tammany Hall) picked Nadler to succeed him.

    Nadler doesn’t really need those Brooklyn neighborhoods to get re-elected, but the thing is that they are filled with Orthodox Jews of the type who will vote for whoever their Rabbis tell them to vote for. And the Rabbis tell them to vote for the incumbent as long as they keep the government money flowing, which Nadler can do. So he likes having them in his district. Otherwise the district might include alot of Latino neighborhoods to the north of the Upper West Side and he could be challenged in the primaries. Manhattan has the population now for two Congressmen, but has three, and this situation is preserved by giving the three Manhattan based districts territories in in the outer boroughs.

    Ed

    April 20, 2016 at 10:53 PM


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